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I think most people will say we've done REALLY well in free agency this year.

We've missed the boat on a couple players, that we simply weren't going to overpay for, and i guess that included Keyshawn Johnson. Allen and Glover we simply weren't keeping. Its pretty cut and dry.

If you look all at of our needs or positions that became needs...

WR, TE, OG, OT, OLB, ILB, S, K

WR - We signed arguably the best receiver in the NFL... nuff said really, i don't think many people understand how this is going to blow our offense up. IN A GOOD WAY. He helped turn the Eagles into one of the best offenses in the NFL. And that was with McNabb who isn't nearly as good as Bledsoe in terms of pure passing ability.

TE - We wanted to replace Campbell with someone who was young and good at blocking. We got Ryan Hannam who is 26 years old. Dude is described as blocking "specialist". He is also no slouch in terms of the passing game. Campbell struggled coming off of injuries. So we decided to go in a different direction. This is a signing that people don't understand will drastically help our offensive line.

OG - We got Kyle Kosier, who has versatility. Many people, including myself don't know if he is starting quality. Given how quickly he was signed, the Cowboys must know something, or think they know something. Kosier was the 6th ranked offensive guard in free agency (5th before Larry Allen was released. Hutchinson was transition tagged, Manuwai was a RFA, and I guess it was just a choice between Kosier and Neal, and they liked Kosiers versatility. The guard market wasn't very rich this year, we're probably going to draft a guard. We should have made a move at bentley who could play guard or center, and we'd be set on the line.

OT - I think we seriously wanted Jeff Backus. Right after he was signed Jerry basically said, our options were limited, and you wouldn't see us spend a lot of money just for nothing. There was no chance we were going to go after 35 year old Jon Runyan... Fabini was the youngest and highest ranked tackle besides Backus. Still wish we got Kevin Shaffer. The tackle market wasn't very rich this year. We'll probably draft a tackle.

I/OLB - We missed on Willie McGinest. And there really wasn't any 3-4 tweener ends out there that we were going to sign. We wanted McGinest, but because of his agent he went to Cleveland before coming here as originally planned. They gave him an offer he couldn't refuse. Leaving us in the wind, we're going to have to draft someone here. We probably wanted Julian Peterson too, but not for the money he would be getting. Cato June is undersized and rfa. Will Witherspoon got paid, and is probably undersized. We got Akin Ayodele who could play either spot. And he is the highest ranked linebacker that we could possibly think about getting. There really isn't any quality left that fits our scheme. Think we might have gone after Andre Carter had Washington not showered him with "monies"

Safety - I think we wanted Corey Chavous, we simply weren't going to overpay for him. I don't think we wanted to pay for what was out there.

K - I think we got blown when it came to kicker. Not that we didn't get the most accurate kicker out there, but simply we wanted longwell or Bryant, and ending up spending more than we wanted to. We probably would have got Josh Brown had we been able to get him away from Seattle.

For those who see DT as a need, I see us drafting someone if Parcells doesn't believe in Thomas "Pepper" Johnson. Just like Center, I think the front office believes we're all set here.

That basically leaves our biggest draft needs as

OG, OT, OLB, FS

And based on what is out there, and how we usually draft I'm thinking it'll play out like this, assuming we don't trade down.

1st - OLB/DE
2nd - FS
3rd - OG
5th - OT
 

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I agree with the analysis that Ryan Hannam could be a great pickup. Campbell's been hurt and his production down - although we'll miss his leadership.
 
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I think given the fleibility we have acquired on the OL...Fabini can play either OT spot, Kosier can play all across the line...we are more likely to draft a mid round WR or NT than both an OT and OG.

OLB and FS in the first two rounds I agree with
 

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Galian Beast said:
What about the rest of the post...?

very insightful and I agree for the most part. I hope you're right about drafting a true FS in the 2nd (or 1st if Huff somehow falls to us).
 

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I don't see us drafting a receiver at least not in the first two rounds.

Fabini is slated to start, but he isn't the future. We signed him to a 3 year deal, much less than we signed most players this year. An obvious sign that they wanted someone better, and younger. Kosier signed a 5 year deal, but despite the size of the contract wasn't a guarantee that he is the full time starter this year. Not to mention the fact that Peterman's numbers is still out.

This is my draft.

1. Manny Lawson
2. KO Simpson
3. Charles Spencer
 

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Vertigo_17 said:
very insightful and I agree for the most part. I hope you're right about drafting a true FS in the 2nd (or 1st if Huff somehow falls to us).

I have a feeling we're pretty much settled on getting K.O. Simpson.

He has fallen a bit and we might be able to pick him up with our second pick.
 
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i do think we need an insurance policy at WR too....not only for "Owens" risk but also age of Glenn/lack of quality depth etc

I agree no WR in first two rounds, I expect to see one and an OL in mid rounds, just not two OL

We'll see!
 

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Galian Beast said:
I think most people will say we've done REALLY well in free agency this year.

We've missed the boat on a couple players, that we simply weren't going to overpay for, and i guess that included Keyshawn Johnson. Allen and Glover we simply weren't keeping. Its pretty cut and dry.

If you look all at of our needs or positions that became needs...

WR, TE, OG, OT, OLB, ILB, S, K

WR - We signed arguably the best receiver in the NFL... nuff said really, i don't think many people understand how this is going to blow our offense up. IN A GOOD WAY. He helped turn the Eagles into one of the best offenses in the NFL. And that was with McNabb who isn't nearly as good as Bledsoe in terms of pure passing ability.

TE - We wanted to replace Campbell with someone who was young and good at blocking. We got Ryan Hannam who is 26 years old. Dude is described as blocking "specialist". He is also no slouch in terms of the passing game. Campbell struggled coming off of injuries. So we decided to go in a different direction. This is a signing that people don't understand will drastically help our offensive line.
First off I believe Torry Holt is the best WR if you are going by stats... Secondly I agree that Campbell had to go but does Ryan/Curtis/Pierce suck so bad that this guy is such a major upgrade over them..if so than he was signed cheap.. if not than it might have been better to keep our own...but I am not at all disappointed in the signing...seems like a ST demon

OG - We got Kyle Kosier, who has versatility. Many people, including myself don't know if he is starting quality. Given how quickly he was signed, the Cowboys must know something, or think they know something. Kosier was the 6th ranked offensive guard in free agency (5th before Larry Allen was released. Hutchinson was transition tagged, Manuwai was a RFA, and I guess it was just a choice between Kosier and Neal, and they liked Kosiers versatility. The guard market wasn't very rich this year, we're probably going to draft a guard. We should have made a move at bentley who could play guard or center, and we'd be set on the line.

OT - I think we seriously wanted Jeff Backus. Right after he was signed Jerry basically said, our options were limited, and you wouldn't see us spend a lot of money just for nothing. There was no chance we were going to go after 35 year old Jon Runyan... Fabini was the youngest and highest ranked tackle besides Backus. Still wish we got Kevin Shaffer. The tackle market wasn't very rich this year. We'll probably draft a tackle.
I liked the Kosier signing...he is not a mauler but he does seal well enough to create running lanes but I am very concerned by the lack of depth plus I think Rivera is done and has been done for 3 years now...I am not sold on the Fabini signing and I also think Backus was the intended target..I think we look O-line in the draft but I believe Rob is gonna be fine

I/OLB - We missed on Willie McGinest. And there really wasn't any 3-4 tweener ends out there that we were going to sign. We wanted McGinest, but because of his agent he went to Cleveland before coming here as originally planned. They gave him an offer he couldn't refuse. Leaving us in the wind, we're going to have to draft someone here. We probably wanted Julian Peterson too, but not for the money he would be getting. Cato June is undersized and rfa. Will Witherspoon got paid, and is probably undersized. We got Akin Ayodele who could play either spot. And he is the highest ranked linebacker that we could possibly think about getting. There really isn't any quality left that fits our scheme. Think we might have gone after Andre Carter had Washington not showered him with "monies"
McGinest called Parcells and told him of the Browns offer...Bill told Willie to sign with the Browns...I think we have a OLB on the team in Thornton who seems to be the forgotten man but we can use some depth there and it will probably be by draft.. the FA OLB either A) wanted too much money B) not the right fit

Safety - I think we wanted Corey Chavous, we simply weren't going to overpay for him. I don't think we wanted to pay for what was out there.

K - I think we got blown when it came to kicker. Not that we didn't get the most accurate kicker out there, but simply we wanted longwell or Bryant, and ending up spending more than we wanted to. We probably would have got Josh Brown had we been able to get him away from Seattle.

For those who see DT as a need, I see us drafting someone if Parcells doesn't believe in Thomas "Pepper" Johnson. Just like Center, I think the front office believes we're all set here.

That basically leaves our biggest draft needs as

OG, OT, OLB, FS
I pretty much agree
 

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Zaxor said:
First off I believe Torry Holt is the best WR if you are going by stats... Secondly I agree that Campbell had to go but does Ryan/Curtis/Pierce suck so bad that this guy is such a major upgrade over them..if so than he was signed cheap.. if not than it might have been better to keep our own...but I am not at all disappointed in the signing...seems like a ST demon


I liked the Kosier signing...he is not a mauler but he does seal well enough to create running lanes but I am very concerned by the lack of depth plus I think Rivera is done and has been done for 3 years now...I am not sold on the Fabini signing and I also think Backus was the intended target..I think we look O-line in the draft but I believe Rob is gonna be fine


McGinest called Parcells and told him of the Browns offer...Bill told Willie to sign with the Browns...I think we have a OLB on the team in Thornton who seems to be the forgotten man but we can use some depth there and it will probably be by draft.. the FA OLB either A) wanted too much money B) not the right fit


I pretty much agree

Owens is a far better scoring threat than Holt. And has far better yards per gain. I think Torry Holt has had a better history in terms of talent at quarterback throughout his career. that and he has had Isaac Bruce as well.

Ryan, curtis, and pierce were all here last year. Did you see ANY of them put in to help our poor blocking situation? Blocking tight end isn't a high cash gig by any means... Ask Shaun Alexander if he wanted to see Hannam go, and I bet you anything he doesn't like it.

Rivera just started going to the pro bowl the last few years. He is far from done. He had back surgery, and we still expected him to have a pro bowl year. He should be better this year than he was last year. Not to mention being in the system longer.

Fabini wasn't a great signing, but not only does he have versatility in terms of truly playing the left or the right, he is a quality player. And an upgrade at right tackle. Petitti has a lot of potential, I just don't know if he is the answer this year. The Jets have historically had a really good offensive line. And Fabini was a part of that. As was Ryan Young before his leg injuries curtailed his career. Throw Mawae in there as well.

I haven't forgotten Thornton, but I'm not really all that impressed with him either. Bill told McGinest to sign with Cleveland because of the money and atmosphere there. He still wanted him though. Thus the intended visit.

If you call it quits for a player just because they had an off year or off set of years, you aren't giving them a fair chance...

Did you know that Joey Galloway had the best year of his career last year? Imagine the difference a good quarterback and a running game can do for a receiver...
 

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I still think we could go after Jerald Sowell. I just don't think we've been addressing things like that yet.

A signing like that is something we'd do right before Training Camp begins or after the draft.
 

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Galian Beast said:
I still think we could go after Jerald Sowell. I just don't think we've been addressing things like that yet.

A signing like that is something we'd do right before Training Camp begins or after the draft.


NT seems to be becoming the postion that holds us back. Fergi is solid, but there is only Pepper behind him, which has me worried. And if you think the FO thinks the NT is set, I will be very worried about it. Hopefully we can draft some 2-gap NT in the middle rounds for insurance or sign a veteran after June 1st.

It is just that with FS, WR and the Oline being addressed that there will be another hole after somebody gets injured...
 

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Jason Ferguson hasn't missed a single game since 2002. And is MUCH younger than someone like Ted Washington for example... He is only 31.

He has played in 117/144 games in his career.
 

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Vertigo_17 said:
very insightful and I agree for the most part. I hope you're right about drafting a true FS in the 2nd (or 1st if Huff somehow falls to us).
There are only a handful of positions that you can draft in April and have a reasonable expectation that the player will start in September. Free safety is one of these positions and I fully expect the team to draft someone to compete or displace Keith Davis in September.

But remember, teams do not need to have a stud at every position to compete and win the Superbowl. I am quite happy with the off-season that this team has had. I do have concerns about linebacker and offensive line, but if the team could add a stud linebacker in the draft (on the level of Ware) and depth on the offensive line, I could live with Keith Davis at FS.

Incidentally, I didn't know Cato June was a restricted FA. He's worth making a run at, though I suspect he is a bit undersized. He's the same weight as Roy Williams and 30 pounds lighter than Ware.
 

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I really thought BP was reasonably satisfied with our QB situation but the rumors about Whitehurst and now Harrington change that. Either of those 2 would require our 3rd rounder. If that were to be the case to be able to address all our needs we will end up trading down a couple times for more picks. I wish we waited a year to address QB.

My mock based on using the 3rd for a QB and with trades would look something like this:

1) (trade to 30 for Indy's 30th and 62nd picks) Eric Winston, OT, Miami
2a) Jason Allen, S, Tenn
2B) (trade down to around 10th pick in 3rd for additional 4th)
3rd) either Charlie Whitehurst or to Detroit for Joey Harrington
3rd) (from trade) Maurice Stovall, WR, Notre Dame
4th) (from trade) Chris Gacong, DE/ OLB, Cal Poly
5th) Tommy Jackson, DT, Auburn
6th) Skyler Green, WR, LSU
7th) Josh Huston, K, OSU
 

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Galian Beast said:
I have a feeling we're pretty much settled on getting K.O. Simpson.

He has fallen a bit and we might be able to pick him up with our second pick.

I'd be very happy with Simpson if we could get him in the 2nd round.
 

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I'll second the nose questions we need another interrior guy, bet we get one in the draft somehow...
 

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Really liked the observations except on Fabini. He is more suited as a backup capable of playing either RT or LT. Even most scouts and teams viewed him that way. He is a good pickup and a vast improvement over Tucker.

My bet is the starting tackles on opening day will be Adams and Petitti much to everyone dismay. I see the draft going OLB in the first and OG in the second and FS in the third. Although, it would be highly probably that we acquire an extra second and third on the first day of the draft.

Once the Saints trade down with Denver for Leinart, the Saints will have a multitude of picks and we will see Romo and maybe Johnson go to the Saints for a second and fourth round picks. Still don't believe that Ellis is with the team by the end of the draft either and see us getting at least a second for him if not a second and third.

1. Lawson - SOLB
2a. McNeill - OT
2b. Joseph - OG/OC
2c. Simpson - FS
3a. Sims - OG
3b. Stovall - WR
4. Wright - NT/DE
5. Parham - ILB
6. Slay - FS/SS/ST
7. Hatcher - DE
 
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