darthseinfeld
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Feel free to include why you like them, and where you think they will he drafted
Benton and Roy are both 3 down players.Don’t like any of them honestly. They are two down players and we already have one of those in Hankins on the roster. We also have Bohanna who is essentially that. While I’d love to improve our DT run stopping also, I just don’t see the roster spot/value/draft pick cost/benefit bearing out being worth a high draft pick. Wish we had just paid up for A Robinson, who is probably better than any 1T in this draft.
Hankins is vet minimum player who is regressing. How long will he actually be playable? Bohanna is the reason we felt the need to trade for Hankins.Don’t like any of them honestly. They are two down players and we already have one of those in Hankins on the roster. We also have Bohanna who is essentially that. While I’d love to improve our DT run stopping also, I just don’t see the roster spot/value/draft pick cost/benefit bearing out being worth a high draft pick. Wish we had just paid up for A Robinson, who is probably better than any 1T in this draft.
I have 3 and 4 flipped flopped, but the same 5. If you are unable to draft 1 of these five, best not to draft one at all.Mine:
1: Keanu Benton. Stout and incredibly power. 315 but can anchor like he is 340. Reminds me of pre double digit sack Payne. 1T that has the raw power to anchor like a guy 25 pounds heavier, and with enough pass rush juice to push the pocket and get some occasional pressure. I think he is a late 2nd, earlier 3rd. Better player than Travis Jones last year
2: Mazi Smith. Just behind Benton for me, but he will probably get drafted higher. I don't think he is as complete a player, but he has more upside. However there is also a possibility he is never more than a 2 down guy. I think if he can develop as a pass rusher, he could be a Dalvin Tomlinson like player
3: Jaquelin Roy. Purely as a 1T, he is a bit of a project. But he should be able to play at 315 with no problem. Right now he is more of a 1T and 3T hybrid. Strong player, but will need to get stronger to anchor consistently in the NFL. With a little more weight in an NFL conditioning program that will come. I could see him eventually being similar to Alim McNeil who is developing into a nice 3 down 1T. Roy is probably a late 3rd, early 4th player.
4: Siaki Ika. A darling early in the process as a massive DT that offers pressure in the passing game. However as the process has gone on he has really fallen. His problems are he cant play full games, and he probably isnt athletic enough for his pass rush ability to tranfer to the NFL like it did in college (33 pressures in 2023). However if he is falling to the 3rd or 4th, he is probably becoming underrated. If used in a rotation with 25 to 30 snaps a game, he should still be a very effective player in both pass and run defense.
5: Jerrod Clark. I think there is real upside here. He looks like a slow 2 down only guy right now. However as a former TE who got up to 340 to play NT, there is some athleticism buried under that mass. Going from a small school to the NFL will give him significantly better training resources. I think if he can get to about 320 in the NFL, he will be a significantly more athletic player and possible 3 down 1T. He is a day 3 guy. I like him in the 5th, but I could also see someone taking him in the 4th. Especially if he has interviewed well
What do you think of Clark. Really interesting guyI have 3 and 4 flipped flopped, but the same 5. If you are unable to draft 1 of these five, best not to draft one at all.
Exactly, you don't want to have to sign veterans every offseason to fill the position. Draft a long-term replacement.Hankins is vet minimum player who is regressing. How long will he actually be playable? Bohanna is the reason we felt the need to trade for Hankins.
This is the draft we are talking. Its not for filling in gaps. Its about building your team for the long run
I like him, but he needs some development. I was surprised to see Dane rank him as a 7th rd prospect. He also has Roy in the 5th rd.What do you think of Clark. Really interesting guy
Roy is a guy I can see alot of people have differing opinions. In alot ways he is a tweener. Not big enough, or with a consistent enough anchor to be a 1t, doesnt have the burst to be a consistent 3t. But you can play him at both spots.I like him, but he needs some development. I was surprised to see Dane rank him as a 7th rd prospect. He also has Roy in the 5th rd.
Young and Redmond are interesting names. Redmond might be too small thoughMazi Smith
Siaki Ika
Cameron Young
Keondre Coburn
Jalen Redmond
I like Hankins, the average opponents YPC was a yard lower when he was in the game. He was also probably a big reason the 49ers didn't run all over us in the divisional round. They could also sign Ford if they felt they needed another one.
My bad, I thought I changed Redmond to Jerrod Clark from Costal Carolina.Young and Redmond are interesting names. Redmond might be too small though
I honestly thought that outside runs were more troublesome that ones within the interior, especially after Quinn stopped all those twists/stunts. Think Quinn figured out late, that Parsons is better off the ball in obvious run downs. Think adding that 4i, might be more important.Roy is a guy I can see alot of people have differing opinions. In alot ways he is a tweener. Not big enough, or with a consistent enough anchor to be a 1t, doesnt have the burst to be a consistent 3t. But you can play him at both spots.
For me, I think he adds 10-15 lbs in the pro's and plays 1T. Long term that is. Could be report in 2024 at 315-320. If he is there, where I think he has value right now is as a different type of 1T than what they have on the roster. A 1T that can move effectively with the LOS on stretch runs. Hankins could do it a little, Bohanna not at all
I definitely agree in 4i. Could explain the early interest in Dexter and Young. You may see Golston there this year, but you want options tooI honestly thought that outside runs were more troublesome that ones within the interior, especially after Quinn stopped all those twists/stunts. Think Quinn figured out late, that Parsons is better off the ball in obvious run downs. Think adding that 4i, might be more important.
A'Shawn Robinson is still out there and he is from the Dallas area. Think he is better then anyone on this list.Mazi Smith
Siaki Ika
Cameron Young
Keondre Coburn
Jalen Redmond
I like Hankins, the average opponents YPC was a yard lower when he was in the game. He was also probably a big reason the 49ers didn't run all over us in the divisional round. They could also sign Ford if they felt they needed another one.
Remember, 1st game against Tampa how they kept on running the same outside run and we just couldn't stop it.I definitely agree in 4i. Could explain the early interest in Dexter and Young. You may see Golston there this year, but you want options too
This is where I would play A'Shawn Robinson if they would sign him.I definitely agree in 4i. Could explain the early interest in Dexter and Young. You may see Golston there this year, but you want options too
I like him also in the SB two years ago when Mixon got something going they put him in and shut it down. Ford actually has a lot more sacks, TFLs, and QB Hits.A'Shawn Robinson is still out there and he is from the Dallas area. Think he is better then anyone on this list.