Going into the game, it would have taken a complete collapse to want McCarthy gone

[Whiskey Cowboy]

Going into the game yesterday, it would have taken a complete collapse for me to even consider wanting McCarthy gone. Despite his flaws, he's a really good coach. One of the best. He's the best coach we've had since Bill Parcells, and perhaps Jimmy, and he's built a strong contender. Something to look forward to, if for whatever reason his team faltered in the playoffs.

After seeing the body language and borderline shell shock his team demonstrated while the game was still in reach was frustrating. Coming in unprepared on all sides of the ball is unacceptable. It legitimately hurt me for the first time in as long as I remember. I lost faith in the team last night.

I started to consider whether I'd even be interested in following the team closely if there wasn't an immediate change of pace that corrected all of the pitfalls that we saw yesterday. That we've seen for the past three decades. I hate the fact that firing a guy that's won 37 games in the last three years, but the truth is, this is bigger than McCarthy.

The lack of discipline has played a major role in nearly all of our failures for the last 30 years. The only common denominator is the owner, so I questioned if there was anyone out there with the pull to check the owner and change the culture. I would've never guessed Bill Belichick would be a legitimate option to coach the Cowboys, but he's out there, waiting for the call. I never would've guessed Jim Harbaugh would be an option, but he just interviewed with the Chargers. He's available. Nick Saban retired this year. These are names that are bigger than Jerry Jones. The type of guys that have the ability and skins on the wall to change the culture. It makes too much sense to really make a monumental move that rocks the sporting world.

So now, as I sit here watching the Bucs beat the hell out of Philly, I question if it's the right move to change direction. History shows that it takes time to establish a new culture. There will be some growing pains with a new coach, and McCarthy will be entering year 5 of a successful coaching campaign. He's building something really good, on the cusp of greatness. The only problem, outside of LB I'm seeing is culture. The same old story of coaches passed.

He won't be the guy to change that culture unless something changed in his wiring after the game, but what happens if he comes back? The team loves him. He has not lost the locker room. There may be some internal strife that needs to be sorted out, but we're looking at a really pissed off, embarrassed, and talented roster, with a few tweaks, returning to a division that's looking pretty weak, considering how bad Philly looks. Can McCarthy be the guy that wins, in spite of the Jones family? Or is it time to cut this one short and bring a legend in and change the culture entirely?

Harbaugh or Belichick would look great on that sideline. Would we be pulling the plug too early on an opportunity to finish building a long-term contender? The best teams see low coaching turnover, and the worst have revolving doors at head coach. Is it wise to fire a really good coach to restart with a great one? My opinion leans heavily towards getting a great one, but there's this annoying thought in the back of my head saying that it's too early to move on. What say you?

 

[big dog cowboy]

McCarthy has had 4 years. So far he has massively failed to do what he was hired for.

Last night the Cowboys we unprepared, unmotivated and got outcoached big time and were embarrassed.

 

[VaqueroTD]

 

[Sydla]

Saying he’s the best coach since maybe Jimmy is like being the tallest midget.

Jerry sucks at hiring coaches. So McCarthy should look good when compared to Chan Gailey and Dave Campo and Jason Garrett.

McCarthy is one of the best what? Coaches in the NFL or just in Cowboys history?

 

[CATCH17]

So imagine we get to the same position next year with McCarthy and the same thing happens…

That’s why you have to fire him.

Hes had plenty of time in NFL years and he had a unacceptable showing on the biggest stage at Home.

Hes got to be fired or you just tell everyone that yesterday is acceptable.

 

[Tabascocat]

There isn’t a coach out there to change the culture that Jerry would hire. We have to hope for a tough, hard-nosed HC at best. Dallas will not get BB, Harbaugh, etc……..he wouldn’t get to play with his toy that much.

 

[SpaceCowboy99]

Going into the game yesterday, it would have taken a complete collapse for me to even consider wanting McCarthy gone. Despite his flaws, he's a really good coach. One of the best. He's the best coach we've had since Bill Parcells, and perhaps Jimmy, and he's built a strong contender. Something to look forward to, if for whatever reason his team faltered in the playoffs.

After seeing the body language and borderline shell shock his team demonstrated while the game was still in reach was frustrating. Coming in unprepared on all sides of the ball is unacceptable. It legitimately hurt me for the first time in as long as I remember. I lost faith in the team last night.

I started to consider whether I'd even be interested in following the team closely if there wasn't an immediate change of pace that corrected all of the pitfalls that we saw yesterday. That we've seen for the past three decades. I hate the fact that firing a guy that's won 37 games in the last three years, but the truth is, this is bigger than McCarthy.

The lack of discipline has played a major role in nearly all of our failures for the last 30 years. The only common denominator is the owner, so I questioned if there was anyone out there with the pull to check the owner and change the culture. I would've never guessed Bill Belichick would be a legitimate option to coach the Cowboys, but he's out there, waiting for the call. I never would've guessed Jim Harbaugh would be an option, but he just interviewed with the Chargers. He's available. Nick Saban retired this year. These are names that are bigger than Jerry Jones. The type of guys that have the ability and skins on the wall to change the culture. It makes too much sense to really make a monumental move that rocks the sporting world.

So now, as I sit here watching the Bucs beat the hell out of Philly, I question if it's the right move to change direction. History shows that it takes time to establish a new culture. There will be some growing pains with a new coach, and McCarthy will be entering year 5 of a successful coaching campaign. He's building something really good, on the cusp of greatness. The only problem, outside of LB I'm seeing is culture. The same old story of coaches passed.

He won't be the guy to change that culture unless something changed in his wiring after the game, but what happens if he comes back? The team loves him. He has not lost the locker room. There may be some internal strife that needs to be sorted out, but we're looking at a really pissed off, embarrassed, and talented roster, with a few tweaks, returning to a division that's looking pretty weak, considering how bad Philly looks. Can McCarthy be the guy that wins, in spite of the Jones family? Or is it time to cut this one short and bring a legend in and change the culture entirely?

Harbaugh or Belichick would look great on that sideline. Would we be pulling the plug too early on an opportunity to finish building a long-term contender? The best teams see low coaching turnover, and the worst have revolving doors at head coach. Is it wise to fire a really good coach to restart with a great one? My opinion leans heavily towards getting a great one, but there's this annoying thought in the back of my head saying that it's too early to move on. What say you?

That's a lot of fluff for saying you just want them to run this thing back again.

Not really surprised here. I have to argue with fans like you all year long. You guys buy the cheese and think Dak, Mike, Micah, are the answers. They aren't. And MM will never be better than parcels.

 

[Floatyworm]

McCarthy has had 4 years. So far he has massively failed to do what he was hired for.

Last night the Cowboys we unprepared, unmotivated and got outcoached big time and were embarrassed.

.....throw in the fact he's a back stabbing moron that has no clue how to call plays.

But go ahead...blame Kellen Moore

 

[john van brocklin]

Going into the game yesterday, it would have taken a complete collapse for me to even consider wanting McCarthy gone. Despite his flaws, he's a really good coach. One of the best. He's the best coach we've had since Bill Parcells, and perhaps Jimmy, and he's built a strong contender. Something to look forward to, if for whatever reason his team faltered in the playoffs.

After seeing the body language and borderline shell shock his team demonstrated while the game was still in reach was frustrating. Coming in unprepared on all sides of the ball is unacceptable. It legitimately hurt me for the first time in as long as I remember. I lost faith in the team last night.

I started to consider whether I'd even be interested in following the team closely if there wasn't an immediate change of pace that corrected all of the pitfalls that we saw yesterday. That we've seen for the past three decades. I hate the fact that firing a guy that's won 37 games in the last three years, but the truth is, this is bigger than McCarthy.

The lack of discipline has played a major role in nearly all of our failures for the last 30 years. The only common denominator is the owner, so I questioned if there was anyone out there with the pull to check the owner and change the culture. I would've never guessed Bill Belichick would be a legitimate option to coach the Cowboys, but he's out there, waiting for the call. I never would've guessed Jim Harbaugh would be an option, but he just interviewed with the Chargers. He's available. Nick Saban retired this year. These are names that are bigger than Jerry Jones. The type of guys that have the ability and skins on the wall to change the culture. It makes too much sense to really make a monumental move that rocks the sporting world.

So now, as I sit here watching the Bucs beat the hell out of Philly, I question if it's the right move to change direction. History shows that it takes time to establish a new culture. There will be some growing pains with a new coach, and McCarthy will be entering year 5 of a successful coaching campaign. He's building something really good, on the cusp of greatness. The only problem, outside of LB I'm seeing is culture. The same old story of coaches passed.

He won't be the guy to change that culture unless something changed in his wiring after the game, but what happens if he comes back? The team loves him. He has not lost the locker room. There may be some internal strife that needs to be sorted out, but we're looking at a really pissed off, embarrassed, and talented roster, with a few tweaks, returning to a division that's looking pretty weak, considering how bad Philly looks. Can McCarthy be the guy that wins, in spite of the Jones family? Or is it time to cut this one short and bring a legend in and change the culture entirely?

Harbaugh or Belichick would look great on that sideline. Would we be pulling the plug too early on an opportunity to finish building a long-term contender? The best teams see low coaching turnover, and the worst have revolving doors at head coach. Is it wise to fire a really good coach to restart with a great one? My opinion leans heavily towards getting a great one, but there's this annoying thought in the back of my head saying that it's too early to move on. What say you?

We have to have culture change.
Whoever gives the best chance at that
Gets my vote.
We can't simply roll out the same unfocused, distracted team.
It's unacceptable.
It's time for the fans to rise up and cut off the money.

 

[tomokawan]

McCarthy has had 4 years. So far he has massively failed to do what he was hired for.

Last night the Cowboys we unprepared, unmotivated and got outcoached big time and were embarrassed.

Time for a new coach for the reasons you just listed. You cannot be a #2 seed at home and come out so unprepared like this team was. That's culture. That's poor preparation. It is on this coaching staff. When you come out on defense to start a playoff game, get penalties and let the team score 7, normally, it is going to be a long day. Unlike regular season, Playoffs are win and go home. Your intensity has to increase. When you get behind early, you press because all the pressure of the game is on you. They were not ready to play this game.

 

[GMO415]

I'll be honest. Jerry would probably sign Jimbo Fisher before Bill and Harbaugh.

 

[Jake]

There isn’t a coach out there to change the culture that Jerry would hire. We have to hope for a tough, hard-nosed HC at best. Dallas will not get BB, Harbaugh, etc……..he wouldn’t get to play with his toy that much.

This is the part some just don't see. There are coaches who wouldn't entertain Jerry and Stephen playing "football guy" because working for Jerry isn't their only option.

Wade Phillips was desperate for another gig, Garrett was Jerry's adopted son, McCarthy spent a year in his basement before Jerry called.

Guys like Belichick/Harbaugh don't need Jerry. There are other teams who would hire them without expecting them to ask the owner's son who he thinks they should draft.

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

That's a lot of fluff for saying you just want them to run this thing back again.

Not really surprised here. I have to argue with fans like you all year long. You guys buy the cheese and think Dak, Mike, Micah, are the answers. They aren't. And MM will never be better than parcels.

Did I say that? Not that my opinion matters, but I'm leaning heavy towards change. I only threw out some different scenarios to provoke discussion. There's no reason to be rude about it.

 

[AZCowboysFan22]

The black swan event happened but the there is little evidence that anything different will happen from the previous 28 years.

 

[Pentagruel]

McCarthy has had 4 years. So far he has massively failed to do what he was hired for.

Last night the Cowboys we unprepared, unmotivated and got outcoached big time and were embarrassed.

Yes and no. McCarthy was hired to win playoff games and ultimately, the Super Bowl. But you seem to take for granted having a stable organization that makes the playoffs in the first place. The best opportunity to win the Super Bowl is having a lot of chances in the first place, and if you can’t do that, then that’s all she wrote. McCarthy has been stellar in every facet except that final hurdle. Think back to our previous coaches and can you say the same for them?

There’s a legitimate claim to fire McCarthy for both consistent playoff failures, and the absolutely unacceptable loss to the Packers in particular, but he’s not been a massive failure overall. Make sure you know what you are getting into if you do replace him.

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

So imagine we get to the same position next year with McCarthy and the same thing happens…

That’s why you have to fire him.

Hes had plenty of time in NFL years and he had a unacceptable showing on the biggest stage at Home.

Hes got to be fired or you just tell everyone that yesterday is acceptable.

This is my concern as well. It takes time to correct previous regimes' mistakes, but we're looking at 4 years of minimal change in the way of penalties, clock management, and overall team discipline. Talent wise this roster is night and day in comparison to where they were when Garrett left. He built a team that compete, but I have my concerns that he lacks what's necessary to take the next step. The team needs a strong leader, not another puppet.