Hey Texas A&M Fans question for you

[Kangaroo]

Does Sherman make it another year ? This was suppose to be their turn to shine in the Big12 before bolting to the SEC and having two back to back Epic collapses by the team.

I was just wondering what the Almuni rumblings are like and if he will be out after this year.

 

[The30YardSlant]

He's safe as long as he wins 8 or 9 games. A 7-5, 6-6 type year would put him on the hot seat big time. Anything less and he probably gets canned.

The problem isnt that he's a bad coach, he has proven he is capable of developing a winning gameplan, beat two top 10 teams last year and has dominated two top 15 teams for entire halves this year. For whatever reason though, he doesnt seem to adjust to the other team's adjustments. We beat OU and Nebraska last year because Pelini and Stoops are stubborn coaches who believe in their system and don't alter the plan, and Sherman can beat people like that. Bobby Petrino is not that kind of coach, and we saw the result.

 

[Doomsday101]

Does Sherman make it another year ? This was suppose to be their turn to shine in the Big12 before bolting to the SEC and having two back to back Epic collapses by the team.

I was just wondering what the Almuni rumblings are like and if he will be out after this year.

Not an A&M alumni nor even a big fan but I will say Mike Sherman is the best thing that has happened to Texas A&M in a while and has helped get program back on course and respectability

 

[Cythim]

Not an A&M alumni nor even a big fan but I will say Mike Sherman is the best thing that has happened to Texas A&M in a while and has helped get program back on course and respectability

I completely agree. I think he could help himself by bringing on an offensive coordinator, but I haven't been this excited about watching the Aggies since Slocum was canned. I am far removed from the alumni base, so I don't know what rumblings may be going on, but I hope he can stick around for a while.

 

[TheCoolFan]

No way they fire him after this season. You don't want to move to the SEC with a brand new coach and uncertainty, plus all the recruits they could possibly lose.

Sherman is a good recruiter. His in-game coaching is horrible though. An offensive coordinator is definitely a must (but of course, like Garrett, once you get that power in your hands, it's hard to give it up). The college game is so busy that you need to devote your full attention to overseeing the team and let your offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator spend their time devising the gameplan.

Out of all the successful programs in the country, I don't know of any coaches that pull double duty and serve as coordinators too. It may work for some teams in the NFL, which is what Sherman is used to but it's just too much to handle in college.

 

[trickblue]

Sherman is a fine coach... as he was in Green Bay...

His problem is not finishing games...

 

[Aikbach]

Sherman is a fine coach and a decent man, the Aggie problem is not Coach Sherman, it is the culture of the school's expectations when pitted against reality that undoes them. It is a program that fields the talent and abilities of Mississippi State but has it in their mind they are on par with and should command the respect of Oklahoma.

A&M isn't simply ambitious, they're foolhardy about what they can actually achieve but enter games with the bravado of a crown wearer, that folly is ingrained in the fanbase and culture of it all, I doubt Sherman can exercise the obnoxiousness that ultimately works as an intangible against them and deflates them when they can't meet their own self aggrandized press clippings.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Sherman is a fine coach and a decent man, the Aggie problem is not Coach Sherman, it is the culture of the school's expectations when pitted against reality that undoes them. It is a program that fields the talent and abilities of Mississippi State but has it in their mind they are on par with and should command the respect of Oklahoma.

A&M isn't simply ambitious, they're foolhardy about what they can actually achieve but enter games with the bravado of a crown wearer, that folly is ingrained in the fanbase and culture of it all, I doubt Sherman can exercise the obnoxiousness that ultimately works as an intangible against them and deflates them when they can't meet their own self aggrandized press clippings.

A&M has fielded elite talent in the lifetime of every poster on this site. No reason we can't expect to one day return to being a staple in the top 10-15 every year.

Nice Baylorfans talking points, though.

 

[Aikbach]

A&M has fielded elite talent in the lifetime of every poster on this site. No reason we can't expect to one day return to being a staple in the top 10-15 every year.

Nice Baylorfans talking points, though.

Let's see Dat Nguyen in 1999 was a solid starter but not 'elite", since then what, Sammy Davis? Lots of failed pros and backups and players hyped by the Aggie faithful to be Heisman candidates.

Before Nguyen there were royal busts like Quinten Coryatt to speak of or unfortunate injuries to the once solid Kevin Smith.

By elite i assume you must mean the great Bucky Richardson at quarterback? Or the runningback phenomenon called Leeland McElroy.

Bottomline A&M is a fine school, but it needs a lesson or two in humility, gracious sportsmanship and dialing down the homer obnoxiousness.

A program that's last bowl victory was the Galleryfurtiture.com bowl in the decrepit Astrodome at the end of the last century isn't in much position to condescend against anyone about any supposed talking points.

Point out which ones are in error and I'll gladly retract them.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Let's see Dat Nguyen in 1999 was a solid starter but not 'elite", since then what, Sammy Davis? Lots of failed pros and backups and players hyped by the Aggie faithful to be Heisman candidates.

Dat Nguyen was a two-time all-american, won the Lombardi and Bednarik awards, finished fourth all-time in the NCAA in tackles and was first-team all-pro with the Cowboys. He is one of the most decorated linebackers in college football history.

And what does pro success have anything to do with anything? Tommy Frazier was one of the great college football players of all-time, are you prepared to say he and the endless list of other greats who didnt do anything in the NFL werent talented?

Before Nguyen there were royal busts like Quinten Coryatt to speak of or unfortunate injuries to the once solid Kevin Smith.

By elite i assume you must mean the great Bucky Richardson at quarterback? Or the runningback phenomenon called Leeland McElroy.

Bottomline A&M is a fine school, but it needs a lesson or two in humility, gracious sportsmanship and dialing down the homer obnoxiousness.

A program that's last bowl victory was the Galleryfurtiture.com bowl in the decrepit Astrodome at the end of the last century isn't in much position to condescend against anyone about any supposed talking points.

Point out which ones are in error and I'll gladly retract them.

You have a seriously warped sense of talent. A&M fielded five straight national top 5 defenses from 1990 to 1994, won more conference titles from 1985 to 1999 than anyone not named Nebraska and finished ranked in 13 of 15 years. We had great runs in the late 70s and throughout the 80s and 90s, and before that we were a male only military school with an athletic budget one-tenth the size of Texas'. Since 1970 we have the eleventh most wins of any current FCS school and are nineteeth all-time even with our serious disadvantage over the first 80 years of our existence.

Are we OU or Texas? No, but we have the resources, the fanbase, the recruiting base and, contrary to your belief, the precedent to believe we will be a great program again someday.

 

[Aikbach]

Dat Nguyen was a two-time all-american, won the Lombardi and Bednarik awards, finished fourth all-time in the NCAA in tackles and was first-team all-pro with the Cowboys. He is one of the most decorated linebackers in college football history.

And what does pro success have anything to do with anything? Tommy Frazier was one of the great college football players of all-time, are you prepared to say he and the endless list of other greats who didnt do anything in the NFL werent talented?



You have a seriously warped sense of talent. A&M fielded five straight national top 5 defenses from 1990 to 1994, won more conference titles from 1985 to 1999 than anyone not named Nebraska and finished ranked in 13 of 15 years. We had great runs in the late 70s and throughout the 80s and 90s, and before that we were a male only military school with an athletic budget one-tenth the size of Texas'. Since 1970 we have the eleventh most wins of any current FCS school and are nineteeth all-time even with our serious disadvantage over the first 80 years of our existence.

Are we OU or Texas? No, but we have the resources, the fanbase, the recruiting base and, contrary to your belief, the precedent to believe we will be a great program again someday.

You also have the black spot of Jackie Sherrill cheating in those 80s clubs (ironically he went to Miss. St later), but let's not get that in the way of the bravado, afterall you were reminiscing about the 70s, 80s and early 90s.

If that's the standard then i could point to top ten and 25 Baylor teams in that era too, and if you want to talk about a budget miniscule compared to the competition, well you simply don't impress me then. But i won't, you're too busy being ornery, which is really the point, thanks for making it.

 

[The30YardSlant]

You also have the black spot of Jackie Sherrill cheating in those 80s clubs (ironically he went to Miss. St later), but let's not get that in the way of the bravado, afterall you were reminiscing about the 70s, 80s and early 90s.

Everyone was cheating in the 1980s. Every single SWC program except Rice was on probation at least once from 1978 to 1990. A&M, Texas, SMU, Baylor, UH and Tech all had at least two major or minor violations.

And speaking of bravado, this is big talk from a fan of a program that would give anything to have one single season like A&M's 2010 campaign. Even in our worst decade in the modern era, A&M has still had three years that rival some of Baylor's best years ever. Baylor has won three conference titles since the 20s (and one was a six way tie in 1994 when undefeated A&M was ineligible for the title), meanwhile A&M has won 8 conference titles since 1985 alone.

If that's the standard then i could point to top ten and 25 Baylor teams in that era too, and if you want to talk about a budget miniscule compared to the competition, well you simply don't impress me then. But i won't, you're too busy being ornery, which is really the point, thanks for making it.

No you can't. Baylor hasnt finished ranked since the 80s, and has finished in the top 25 just six times in the history of the AP poll.

 

[Aikbach]

Everyone was cheating in the 1980s. Every single SWC program except Rice was on probation at least once from 1978 to 1990. A&M, Texas, SMU, Baylor, UH and Tech all had at least two major or minor violations.

And speaking of bravado, this is big talk from a fan of a program that would give anything to have one single season like A&M's 2010 campaign. Even in our worst decade in the modern era, A&M has still had three years that rival some of Baylor's best years ever. Baylor has won three conference titles since the 20s (and one was a six way tie in 1994 when undefeated A&M was ineligible for the title), meanwhile A&M has won 8 conference titles since 1985 alone.



No you can't. Baylor hasnt finished ranked since the 80s, and has finished in the top 25 just six times in the history of the AP poll.

See you are so petty your projecting is hysterical. Cheating is ok if it's working is your thesis, no dishonor.

Hysterical that you want moral victories for funding and overcoming odds but don't want to grant that benefit to even smaller programs that perform even more impressive feats with less considering their resources.

Just goes to show what a chicken hawk A&M is, and that was the point and that is what plagues them, they think they're a lion and not a lobotomized house cat.

Keep providing the whining, it's humorous.

Cheers

 

[The30YardSlant]

See you are so petty your projecting is hysterical. Cheating is ok if it's working is your thesis, no dishonor.

Hysterical that you want moral victories for funding and overcoming odds but don't want to grant that benefit to even smaller programs that perform even more impressive feats with less considering their resources.

Just goes to show what a chicken hawk A&M is, and that was the point and that is what plagues them, they think they're a lion and not a lobotomized house cat.

Keep providing the whining, it's humorous.

Cheers

What impressive feats? Winning a conference road game every ten years?

 

[Cythim]

Sherman is a fine coach and a decent man, the Aggie problem is not Coach Sherman, it is the culture of the school's expectations when pitted against reality that undoes them. It is a program that fields the talent and abilities of Mississippi State but has it in their mind they are on par with and should command the respect of Oklahoma.

A&M isn't simply ambitious, they're foolhardy about what they can actually achieve but enter games with the bravado of a crown wearer, that folly is ingrained in the fanbase and culture of it all, I doubt Sherman can exercise the obnoxiousness that ultimately works as an intangible against them and deflates them when they can't meet their own self aggrandized press clippings.

Is that how you explain A&M averaging a 20th ranked recruiting class over the last decade? We had a coaching problem, but we got rid of him and replaced him with someone who can do much better. I remember you ragging on Sherman last year saying he wasn't the answer but you hoped he would stay in College Station for a long time.

Recruiting Class Rank:

2011 - A&M 27 MissSt 44
2010 - A&M 17 MissSt 38
2009 - A&M 22 MissSt 25
2008 - A&M 16 MissSt 44
2007 - A&M 43 MissSt 39
2006 - A&M 26 MissSt 46
2005 - A&M 8 MissSt 33
2004 - A&M 13 MissSt UNR
2003 - A&M 10 MissSt 9
2002 - A&M 17 MissSt 23
Avg - A&M 20 MissSt 40

 

[Aikbach]

Is that how you explain A&M averaging a 20th ranked recruiting class over the last decade? We had a coaching problem, but we got rid of him and replaced him with someone who can do much better. I remember you ragging on Sherman last year saying he wasn't the answer but you hoped he would stay in College Station for a long time.

Recruiting Class Rank:

2011 - A&M 27 MissSt 44
2010 - A&M 17 MissSt 38
2009 - A&M 22 MissSt 25
2008 - A&M 16 MissSt 44
2007 - A&M 43 MissSt 39
2006 - A&M 26 MissSt 46
2005 - A&M 8 MissSt 33
2004 - A&M 13 MissSt UNR
2003 - A&M 10 MissSt 9
2002 - A&M 17 MissSt 23
Avg - A&M 20 MissSt 40

How cute, you took the time to think this makes a point, fact is the analogy stands, Mississippi State plays more ranked teams than A&M did in that time frame and with less whiny political clout that A&M bounces about.

Ultimately talking sense to Aggies is pointless, you guys need hugs, great big hugs and special olympic medals, perhaps that's a conference where you can feel like a winner and not get hurt when someone points out you're not so special as you think you are.

Afterall your bosom buddy compadre just spent long winded posts gabbing about how triumphant A&M's miniscule funded program has done wonders, I guarantee you they have more cash than Miss St so really your apples and oranges attempt at redeeming a not so incredulous comparison is void of the nuances of the differing programs and schedules; another irony as your compadre also spent gabs of air begging one not to be simplistic with approaching A&M's "successes". But here you are trying to think a non contextualized group of numbers as a case closed home run that A&M wasn't anything more than the Miss State of the Big 12.

I wanna show you a really interesting stat though, Aggy: Goose Egg SEC: 7 in the 21st Century, here you come, roarrrrr!

PS you have an attitude problem that causes a coaching problem, Slocum wasn't good enough for you guys after he gave respectability back from the cheating days of Sherrill, Francione was supposed to be a savior stolen from Alabama, Sherman is now supposed to win the Big 12 and roar into the SEC, you aren't realistic with the good guys / hire bozos in reaction to them not meeting unreasonable demands and over estimated talent levels.

 

[Cythim]

How cute, you took the time to think this makes a point, fact is the analogy stands, Mississippi State plays more ranked teams than A&M did in that time frame and with less whiny political clout that A&M bounces about.

Ultimately talking sense to Aggies is pointless, you guys need hugs, great big hugs and special olympic medals, perhaps that's a conference where you can feel like a winner and not get hurt when someone points out you're not so special as you think you are.

Afterall your bosom buddy compadre just spent long winded posts gabbing about how triumphant A&M's miniscule funded program has done wonders, I guarantee you they have more cash than Miss St so really your apples and oranges attempt at redeeming a not so incredulous comparison is void of the nuances of the differing programs and schedules; another irony as your compadre also spent gabs of air begging one not to be simplistic with approaching A&M's "successes". But here you are trying to think a non contextualized group of numbers as a case closed home run that A&M wasn't anything more than the Miss State of the Big 12.

I wanna show you a really interesting stat though, Aggy: Goose Egg SEC: 7 in the 21st Century, here you come, roarrrrr!

PS you have an attitude problem that causes a coaching problem, Slocum wasn't good enough for you guys after he gave respectability back from the cheating days of Sherrill, Francione was supposed to be a savior stolen from Alabama, Sherman is now supposed to win the Big 12 and roar into the SEC, you aren't realistic with the good guys / hire bozos in reaction to them not meeting unreasonable demands and over estimated talent levels.

That is a lovely rant but it has nothing to do with what you originally stated and I responded to. You said TAMU fields the talent and ability of Miss State and I proved it wrong with recruiting class rankings. Now you want to revise it with TAMU being the Big 12 equivalent of Miss State but that argument is intellectually dishonest. Over the last 15 years TAMU has had 10 winning seasons while Miss State has had 5. Ole Miss or Arkansas would be better comparisons.

Your position is clearly biased against TAMU as you've clearly been on a vendetta against the university. I've talked to several fans of the Pac-12 (whose only bias is against the formation of a Pac-16) and their view is much closer to mine (comparing to Arkansas or Ole Miss) than yours. You should just give up the discussion as you clearly cannot keep an objective view on the topic.

 

[Aikbach]

That is a lovely rant but it has nothing to do with what you originally stated and I responded to. You said TAMU fields the talent and ability of Miss State and I proved it wrong with recruiting class rankings. Now you want to revise it with TAMU being the Big 12 equivalent of Miss State but that argument is intellectually dishonest. Over the last 15 years TAMU has had 10 winning seasons while Miss State has had 5. Ole Miss or Arkansas would be better comparisons.

Your position is clearly biased against TAMU as you've clearly been on a vendetta against the university. I've talked to several fans of the Pac-12 (whose only bias is against the formation of a Pac-16) and their view is much closer to mine (comparing to Arkansas or Ole Miss) than yours. You should just give up the discussion as you clearly cannot keep an objective view on the topic.

Keep whining, one thing you're good at apparently, way too easy to get under your skin. Happens when you critique a cult.

 

[Cythim]

Keep whining, one thing you're good at apparently, way too easy to get under your skin. Happens when you critique a cult.

:laugh2:

Slinging mud when you get burned with the truth will not win you any fans.

 

[Aikbach]

:laugh2:

Slinging mud when you get burned with the truth will not win you any fans.

You sure do posture a lot but say little, go ahead and have the last childish word, aggies like to pretend they have moral victories even when they get beat down.