History is repeating itself

[TheCritic]

Today's Dallas Cowboys are very much a parallel to the 1980s Dallas Cowboys

After the Packers playoff blowout, I pretty much knew it was way past time for a rebuild. And it was way past time for the Jerry Jones era to come to an end. This past season was tough to watch. There were definitely moments where, out of habit, I wanted to buy in. I wanted to believe that Mike McCarthy was a better coach than advertised, that Zimmer would be a better DC and got psyched about drafting OL and defense. But it became evident very early in the offseason that none of those cosmetic changes were going to overcome the bigger reality.

And that reality for me is that we are getting closer to the end of the Jerry Jones era day by day. And I am not one of those who feels the need to claim that Jerry and his boy Stephen suck at everything. What they are good or bad at doesn't really matter to me. To me it's really more about eerily similar the Cowboys organization of today mirrors the Cowboys organization of the late 1980s.

You can read books or watch YouTube videos about the 1980s Landry era and listen/watch Jimmy Johnson biographies about the mess of an organization he inherited. The star players of the time like Randy White, Ed Too Tall Jones, Danny White, Everson Walls, etc. were old and slow. The offseason programs were a joke. Through most of the 1980s, the team managed to ride the coattails of their previous legacy and delude themselves that they were going to turn things around when they were really just rotting within. And they got away with it for a few years until bottom fell out in 1988.

It took an outsider like Jimmy Johnson who wasn't going to sugarcoat anything and understood what had to be done. For those first few years, Jerry Jones was forced to focus on the financial well being of the organization, which gave Jimmy Johnson the free reign he needed to rebuild the football team into the dynasty they became in the early 1990s.

Fast forward to today....my true wish for the Cowboys is for Jerry Jones to have a Bum Bright moment and realize that a new revolution is needed and that the idea of turning things over to Stephen or whatever isn't going to work. It's long past time to sell the team, Jerry Jones!! The Dallas Cowboys desperately need a new regime to come in and blow the place up, just as Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson did back in 1989. Anything short of that is a waste of money and time! Dallas Cowboys fans deserve it!

 

[JustChip]

Today's Dallas Cowboys are very much a parallel to the 1980s Dallas Cowboys

After the Packers playoff blowout, I pretty much knew it was way past time for a rebuild. And it was way past time for the Jerry Jones era to come to an end. This past season was tough to watch. There were definitely moments where, out of habit, I wanted to buy in. I wanted to believe that Mike McCarthy was a better coach than advertised, that Zimmer would be a better DC and got psyched about drafting OL and defense. But it became evident very early in the offseason that none of those cosmetic changes were going to overcome the bigger reality.

And that reality for me is that we are getting closer to the end of the Jerry Jones era day by day. And I am not one of those who feels the need to claim that Jerry and his boy Stephen suck at everything. What they are good or bad at doesn't really matter to me. To me it's really more about eerily similar the Cowboys organization of today mirrors the Cowboys organization of the late 1980s.

You can read books or watch YouTube videos about the 1980s Landry era and listen/watch Jimmy Johnson biographies about the mess of an organization he inherited. The star players of the time like Randy White, Ed Too Tall Jones, Danny White, Everson Walls, etc. were old and slow. The offseason programs were a joke. Through most of the 1980s, the team managed to ride the coattails of their previous legacy and delude themselves that they were going to turn things around when they were really just rotting within. And they got away with it for a few years until bottom fell out in 1988.

It took an outsider like Jimmy Johnson who wasn't going to sugarcoat anything and understood what had to be done. For those first few years, Jerry Jones was forced to focus on the financial well being of the organization, which gave Jimmy Johnson the free reign he needed to rebuild the football team into the dynasty they became in the early 1990s.

Fast forward to today....my true wish for the Cowboys is for Jerry Jones to have a Bum Bright moment and realize that a new revolution is needed and that the idea of turning things over to Stephen or whatever isn't going to work. It's long past time to sell the team, Jerry Jones!! The Dallas Cowboys desperately need a new regime to come in and blow the place up, just as Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson did back in 1989. Anything short of that is a waste of money and time! Dallas Cowboys fans deserve it!

Very good comparison. But the problem is Bum Bright had to sell because of non-Dallas Cowboys financial problems. Realistically, the only way Jerry sells this cash cow is if an Eddie DeBartolo, Jerry Richardson, or Daniel Snyder situation arises. And it probably takes more than those; none of them produced the revenue that all owners share in that Jerry does.

 

[fivetwos]

Today's Dallas Cowboys are very much a parallel to the 1980s Dallas Cowboys

After the Packers playoff blowout, I pretty much knew it was way past time for a rebuild. And it was way past time for the Jerry Jones era to come to an end. This past season was tough to watch. There were definitely moments where, out of habit, I wanted to buy in. I wanted to believe that Mike McCarthy was a better coach than advertised, that Zimmer would be a better DC and got psyched about drafting OL and defense. But it became evident very early in the offseason that none of those cosmetic changes were going to overcome the bigger reality.

And that reality for me is that we are getting closer to the end of the Jerry Jones era day by day. And I am not one of those who feels the need to claim that Jerry and his boy Stephen suck at everything. What they are good or bad at doesn't really matter to me. To me it's really more about eerily similar the Cowboys organization of today mirrors the Cowboys organization of the late 1980s.

You can read books or watch YouTube videos about the 1980s Landry era and listen/watch Jimmy Johnson biographies about the mess of an organization he inherited. The star players of the time like Randy White, Ed Too Tall Jones, Danny White, Everson Walls, etc. were old and slow. The offseason programs were a joke. Through most of the 1980s, the team managed to ride the coattails of their previous legacy and delude themselves that they were going to turn things around when they were really just rotting within. And they got away with it for a few years until bottom fell out in 1988.

It took an outsider like Jimmy Johnson who wasn't going to sugarcoat anything and understood what had to be done. For those first few years, Jerry Jones was forced to focus on the financial well being of the organization, which gave Jimmy Johnson the free reign he needed to rebuild the football team into the dynasty they became in the early 1990s.

Fast forward to today....my true wish for the Cowboys is for Jerry Jones to have a Bum Bright moment and realize that a new revolution is needed and that the idea of turning things over to Stephen or whatever isn't going to work. It's long past time to sell the team, Jerry Jones!! The Dallas Cowboys desperately need a new regime to come in and blow the place up, just as Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson did back in 1989. Anything short of that is a waste of money and time! Dallas Cowboys fans deserve it!

Tough to dispute any of that.

Only problem is that same Jerry Jones only a few months ago emphatically told everyone, curse words included, that no one is better than him.

Sure the fans deserve change, but there’s no way he even comes close to caring as long as the money is rolling in and people are talking about him.

 

[ShiningStar]

this is called delusion.

history never repeats itself, we dont know history.

another thing is JJ is never letting this go.

the stadium makes money year round and the sports shows talk of the Cowboys.

Cowboy hate sells more than most teams.

theres history for you. duh

 

[atlantacowboy]

Today's Dallas Cowboys are very much a parallel to the 1980s Dallas Cowboys

After the Packers playoff blowout, I pretty much knew it was way past time for a rebuild. And it was way past time for the Jerry Jones era to come to an end. This past season was tough to watch. There were definitely moments where, out of habit, I wanted to buy in. I wanted to believe that Mike McCarthy was a better coach than advertised, that Zimmer would be a better DC and got psyched about drafting OL and defense. But it became evident very early in the offseason that none of those cosmetic changes were going to overcome the bigger reality.

And that reality for me is that we are getting closer to the end of the Jerry Jones era day by day. And I am not one of those who feels the need to claim that Jerry and his boy Stephen suck at everything. What they are good or bad at doesn't really matter to me. To me it's really more about eerily similar the Cowboys organization of today mirrors the Cowboys organization of the late 1980s.

You can read books or watch YouTube videos about the 1980s Landry era and listen/watch Jimmy Johnson biographies about the mess of an organization he inherited. The star players of the time like Randy White, Ed Too Tall Jones, Danny White, Everson Walls, etc. were old and slow. The offseason programs were a joke. Through most of the 1980s, the team managed to ride the coattails of their previous legacy and delude themselves that they were going to turn things around when they were really just rotting within. And they got away with it for a few years until bottom fell out in 1988.

It took an outsider like Jimmy Johnson who wasn't going to sugarcoat anything and understood what had to be done. For those first few years, Jerry Jones was forced to focus on the financial well being of the organization, which gave Jimmy Johnson the free reign he needed to rebuild the football team into the dynasty they became in the early 1990s.

Fast forward to today....my true wish for the Cowboys is for Jerry Jones to have a Bum Bright moment and realize that a new revolution is needed and that the idea of turning things over to Stephen or whatever isn't going to work. It's long past time to sell the team, Jerry Jones!! The Dallas Cowboys desperately need a new regime to come in and blow the place up, just as Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson did back in 1989. Anything short of that is a waste of money and time! Dallas Cowboys fans deserve it!

You need to be more specific. The early 80's Cowboys were dam good. They went to 3 NFC title games in 81', 82, 83' .... got robbed by "the catch" in '82. The downfall started after 83' season. Lots of stalwarts retired, Bum "not very" Bright bought the team, and the braintrusts (Landry and Gil Brandt) misjudged the QB position for the first time in Cowboy history. They knew in 83' they needed a new QB. According to Gil, he offered the Colts who had the #1 pick a better trade than the one Denver gave them, but the Colts chose the Denver offer and the rest is history. We had Marino as the 9th player on the board and he was there when we were on the clock with the 23rd pick. I can't find any clear explanation why they passed on Marino. But rumors are that Marino was thought to have a cocaine habit and that was never going to play well with Landry being a devout christian. Others say the team was so focused on Elway, that they never considered anyone else. In any case, they decided to roll with Gary Hogeboom in a franchise killing move. lol

 

[Floatyworm]

Today's Dallas Cowboys are very much a parallel to the 1980s Dallas Cowboys

After the Packers playoff blowout, I pretty much knew it was way past time for a rebuild. And it was way past time for the Jerry Jones era to come to an end. This past season was tough to watch. There were definitely moments where, out of habit, I wanted to buy in. I wanted to believe that Mike McCarthy was a better coach than advertised, that Zimmer would be a better DC and got psyched about drafting OL and defense. But it became evident very early in the offseason that none of those cosmetic changes were going to overcome the bigger reality.

And that reality for me is that we are getting closer to the end of the Jerry Jones era day by day. And I am not one of those who feels the need to claim that Jerry and his boy Stephen suck at everything. What they are good or bad at doesn't really matter to me. To me it's really more about eerily similar the Cowboys organization of today mirrors the Cowboys organization of the late 1980s.

You can read books or watch YouTube videos about the 1980s Landry era and listen/watch Jimmy Johnson biographies about the mess of an organization he inherited. The star players of the time like Randy White, Ed Too Tall Jones, Danny White, Everson Walls, etc. were old and slow. The offseason programs were a joke. Through most of the 1980s, the team managed to ride the coattails of their previous legacy and delude themselves that they were going to turn things around when they were really just rotting within. And they got away with it for a few years until bottom fell out in 1988.

It took an outsider like Jimmy Johnson who wasn't going to sugarcoat anything and understood what had to be done. For those first few years, Jerry Jones was forced to focus on the financial well being of the organization, which gave Jimmy Johnson the free reign he needed to rebuild the football team into the dynasty they became in the early 1990s.

Fast forward to today....my true wish for the Cowboys is for Jerry Jones to have a Bum Bright moment and realize that a new revolution is needed and that the idea of turning things over to Stephen or whatever isn't going to work. It's long past time to sell the team, Jerry Jones!! The Dallas Cowboys desperately need a new regime to come in and blow the place up, just as Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson did back in 1989. Anything short of that is a waste of money and time! Dallas Cowboys fans deserve it!

 

[Risen Star]

Is there a more pointless thread topic?

 

[Risen Star]

this is called delusion.

history never repeats itself, we dont know history.

another thing is JJ is never letting this go.

Well, he will. When he is forced to.

82 years, 2 months, 19 days.

 

[Hadenough]

Jerry is never going to sell. His whole family works in the business. It will just get passed on to family just like the Raiders. No hope at all!

 

[Whirlwin]

Baloney juice, everything was good until we put Jimmy Johnson in the Ring of honor, lol. Things happen, Byron Jones,
not getting deep enough on Aaron Rodgers, that was almost as bad as Smith dropping the ball in the end zone against Pittsburgh
losing Jason and Freddie Dez Bryant same season. Elliot holding out Prescott getting injured twice.
The best backfield in the league, the entire backfield got hurt. I could go on and on somebody sold their soul and we’re paying for it now.
We had the best offensive line in the league, at least three times
Aikman had it, Romo had it, and Prescott had it

 

[Whirlwin]

Jerry is never going to sell. His whole family works in the business. It will just get passed on to family just like the Raiders. No hope at all!

He has given us more winning seasons than losing seasons, but he sucks. Place is a joke.

 

[Whirlwin]

Today's Dallas Cowboys are very much a parallel to the 1980s Dallas Cowboys

After the Packers playoff blowout, I pretty much knew it was way past time for a rebuild. And it was way past time for the Jerry Jones era to come to an end. This past season was tough to watch. There were definitely moments where, out of habit, I wanted to buy in. I wanted to believe that Mike McCarthy was a better coach than advertised, that Zimmer would be a better DC and got psyched about drafting OL and defense. But it became evident very early in the offseason that none of those cosmetic changes were going to overcome the bigger reality.

And that reality for me is that we are getting closer to the end of the Jerry Jones era day by day. And I am not one of those who feels the need to claim that Jerry and his boy Stephen suck at everything. What they are good or bad at doesn't really matter to me. To me it's really more about eerily similar the Cowboys organization of today mirrors the Cowboys organization of the late 1980s.

You can read books or watch YouTube videos about the 1980s Landry era and listen/watch Jimmy Johnson biographies about the mess of an organization he inherited. The star players of the time like Randy White, Ed Too Tall Jones, Danny White, Everson Walls, etc. were old and slow. The offseason programs were a joke. Through most of the 1980s, the team managed to ride the coattails of their previous legacy and delude themselves that they were going to turn things around when they were really just rotting within. And they got away with it for a few years until bottom fell out in 1988.

It took an outsider like Jimmy Johnson who wasn't going to sugarcoat anything and understood what had to be done. For those first few years, Jerry Jones was forced to focus on the financial well being of the organization, which gave Jimmy Johnson the free reign he needed to rebuild the football team into the dynasty they became in the early 1990s.

Fast forward to today....my true wish for the Cowboys is for Jerry Jones to have a Bum Bright moment and realize that a new revolution is needed and that the idea of turning things over to Stephen or whatever isn't going to work. It's long past time to sell the team, Jerry Jones!! The Dallas Cowboys desperately need a new regime to come in and blow the place up, just as Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson did back in 1989. Anything short of that is a waste of money and time! Dallas Cowboys fans deserve it!

Jimmy Johnson did it all by himself I guess please people stop this baloney

 

[Sarge]

The difference is the salary cap. Once Jerry was limited in what he could “buy” he became completely worthless as a GM. He’s a disaster. It’s not gonna change……..sorry to say.

 

[atlantacowboy]

The difference is the salary cap. Once Jerry was limited in what he could “buy” he became completely worthless as a GM. He’s a disaster. It’s not gonna change……..sorry to say.

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/1995/07/30/dallas-jones-pushes-for-salary-cap/62383585007/

Great article from 1995 questioning why Jerry championed and pushed for the salary cap knowing it would force him to dismantle his team. The 93' back to back champs were the youngest team in the NFL. Read these quotes and ponder how wrong he was then and still stubbornly refuses to admit he's wrong.

"Between 1992 and 1993, when we won the first Super Bowl, we had 17 new players before there was a salary cap," Jones said. "Had we not made the changes on Casillas and Jimmie Jones, Chad Hennings would still not be on the football field. That's not a negative result with those guys moving on. " Jones says that's just one example. While many would disagree, Jones said it also was healthy for Robert Jones to replace Norton and Shante Carver to step in for Jeffcoat."

So, he basically advocated for the salary cap b/c he didn't want to re-sign all the young players from those Super Bowl teams and needed a scapegoat. The salary cap was Jerry's scapegoat. Now he could say: " well we just can't afford all these players b/c I've only got 37M to spend". To Jerry, this was preferable to being blamed for dismantling the team and letting guys walk. He also criticized the way SF managed the cap back during their run with Steve Young labeling it like using a credit card. Sound familiar?

lol

 

[ArtClink]

Today's Dallas Cowboys are very much a parallel to the 1980s Dallas Cowboys

After the Packers playoff blowout, I pretty much knew it was way past time for a rebuild. And it was way past time for the Jerry Jones era to come to an end. This past season was tough to watch. There were definitely moments where, out of habit, I wanted to buy in. I wanted to believe that Mike McCarthy was a better coach than advertised, that Zimmer would be a better DC and got psyched about drafting OL and defense. But it became evident very early in the offseason that none of those cosmetic changes were going to overcome the bigger reality.

And that reality for me is that we are getting closer to the end of the Jerry Jones era day by day. And I am not one of those who feels the need to claim that Jerry and his boy Stephen suck at everything. What they are good or bad at doesn't really matter to me. To me it's really more about eerily similar the Cowboys organization of today mirrors the Cowboys organization of the late 1980s.

You can read books or watch YouTube videos about the 1980s Landry era and listen/watch Jimmy Johnson biographies about the mess of an organization he inherited. The star players of the time like Randy White, Ed Too Tall Jones, Danny White, Everson Walls, etc. were old and slow. The offseason programs were a joke. Through most of the 1980s, the team managed to ride the coattails of their previous legacy and delude themselves that they were going to turn things around when they were really just rotting within. And they got away with it for a few years until bottom fell out in 1988.

It took an outsider like Jimmy Johnson who wasn't going to sugarcoat anything and understood what had to be done. For those first few years, Jerry Jones was forced to focus on the financial well being of the organization, which gave Jimmy Johnson the free reign he needed to rebuild the football team into the dynasty they became in the early 1990s.

Fast forward to today....my true wish for the Cowboys is for Jerry Jones to have a Bum Bright moment and realize that a new revolution is needed and that the idea of turning things over to Stephen or whatever isn't going to work. It's long past time to sell the team, Jerry Jones!! The Dallas Cowboys desperately need a new regime to come in and blow the place up, just as Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson did back in 1989. Anything short of that is a waste of money and time! Dallas Cowboys fans deserve it!

You couldn’t be more wrong about the parallels to 1980. In 1980, we had a legendary GM and a legendary coach. Today we are looking at three decades without consecutive playoff wins and no NFC championship appearance over those three decades. We have the worst GM in the NFL who has a lifetime appointment. There couldn’t be a worse comparison and I should know because I seen almost every game since ‘72 season. Learn your Cowboys history and show some respect for Landry and Schramm.

 

[SFloridaCowboy]

1980 TO 1987 DRAFTS WORST IN COWBOY HISTORY

Only 1983 with Jim Jeffcoat selected did they hit on a first rounder.
There were rumors that Landry could not control the team well. Danny White did not have "it," the 1970's superstars got old and were not replaced, as the draft busts were monumental in the 1980's. Gil Brandt and Landry lost their sharp skills as talent evaluators.

The OL became subpar after two Pro Bowl types in T Pat Donovan and G Herb Scott had injuries which forced the two into early retirement. Impact TE Doug Cosbie's knees went on him prematurely, leaving a gaping hole until Plan B free agent Jay Novacek was signed.

The current team is stuck with bad salary cap management for three decades. Also, no QB drafted high since 1989. Isn't that insane?

If Landry and Gil Brandt were over the hill and no longer able to properly evaluate and develop talent, can anyone deny the Jones Family is also over the hill and new football management is required?

 

[TheCritic]

You couldn’t be more wrong about the parallels to 1980. In 1980, we had a legendary GM and a legendary coach. Today we are looking at three decades without consecutive playoff wins and no NFC championship appearance over those three decades. We have the worst GM in the NFL who has a lifetime appointment. There couldn’t be a worse comparison and I should know because I seen almost every game since ‘72 season. Learn your Cowboys history and show some respect for Landry and Schramm.

You should learn your Cowboys history and show ME some respect. You completely made up in your own little mind what my argument is all about. I watched the peak of the Danny White Era after 1981 and each year the team slowly circled the drain in terms of overall talent, fell behind the times and leaned on that legacy you talk about. All that did is keep them out of drafting in the top 10. No sir, that Packers playoff blowout was the sign of signs that it was time to blow up the team and start. And of course I acknowledge that no team ever does what they need to do before its too late.

 

[ArtClink]

You should learn your Cowboys history and show ME some respect. You completely made up in your own little mind what my argument is all about. I watched the peak of the Danny White Era after 1981 and each year the team slowly circled the drain in terms of overall talent, fell behind the times and leaned on that legacy you talk about. All that did is keep them out of drafting in the top 10. No sir, that Packers playoff blowout was the sign of signs that it was time to blow up the team and start. And of course I acknowledge that no team ever does what they need to do before its too late.

My point was the difference between the two GM‘s. We haven’t had a football GM since Jimmy Johnson left.

 

[BigD5]

Very good comparison. But the problem is Bum Bright had to sell because of non-Dallas Cowboys financial problems. Realistically, the only way Jerry sells this cash cow is if an Eddie DeBartolo, Jerry Richardson, or Daniel Snyder situation arises. And it probably takes more than those; none of them produced the revenue that all owners share in that Jerry does.

That won’t even do it. Jerry has a handful of scandals that should have already forced him to sell the team. But the media just leaves it unreported.

My theory is bc most of the media hates the Cowboys and they love that Dallas is an awful ran franchise with Jerry at the helm

 

[BigD5]

Jimmy Johnson did it all by himself I guess please people stop this baloney

Which Jones are you?