Hoping McNabb get's traded: Shooting our own foot?

[Gzus]

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/12426/the-big-question-is-kolb-ready

In a recent blog post by Matt Mosley, he lays out the points of why some in the Eagles organization believe that Kolb is ready to start for the team and why he might be a better option than McNabb. Mosley himself doesn't agree with this position but it's interesting to note why the Eagles are entertaining and likely to trade their former franchise QB who has taken them to 5 NFC Championships and 1 Super Bowl.

It is reasoned that Kolb has better accuracy than McNabb, a point that many of us can probably see because to be honest McNabb can be pretty inaccurate at times. Although Kolb may lack the strength and the agility of McNabb he possesses the accuracy and the timing that are required in a West Coast offense.

The question I pose to all of ya'll is: Is us asking and hoping that McNabb gets traded out of the division and even out of the conference actually shooting ourselves in the foot? Could Kolb actually be better for the Eagles than McNabb?

My position is this: We could actually be shooting ourselves in the foot by hoping he leaves the division.... I think that we have a better shot at sweeping the Eagles, with McNabb on their team than w/o him, because their offense could possibly be more consistent w/ Kolb than with McNabb. With McNabb I think we could count on the 3-4 dead ducks he throws out there and those inaccurate passes to help us out. We no longer see the scrambling McNabb out there that can dodge half our defense and still convert a 30 yard pass, so having an older McNabb to play against may be better. On the other hand, Kolb is a traditional pocket passing-type QB that our defense will eat alive with the pass rush we have so it could be a good thing that we can rattle the cages of a young QB.

Either way what do ya'll think could we be shooting ourselves in the foot? :shoot5:

 

[Hook'em#11]

I don't think so. I don't think the egals are a better team then Dallas period at this stage. Kolb or Mcflabb would fare the same I believe. Both in defeat.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Let me put it this way: I want McNabb to retire an Eagle.

 

[Woods]

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/12426/the-big-question-is-kolb-ready

In a recent blog post by Matt Mosley, he lays out the points of why some in the Eagles organization believe that Kolb is ready to start for the team and why he might be a better option than McNabb. Mosley himself doesn't agree with this position but it's interesting to note why the Eagles are entertaining and likely to trade their former franchise QB who has taken them to 5 NFC Championships and 1 Super Bowl.

It is reasoned that Kolb has better accuracy than McNabb, a point that many of us can probably see because to be honest McNabb can be pretty inaccurate at times. Although Kolb may lack the strength and the agility of McNabb he possesses the accuracy and the timing that are required in a West Coast offense.

The question I pose to all of ya'll is: Is us asking and hoping that McNabb gets traded out of the division and even out of the conference actually shooting ourselves in the foot? Could Kolb actually be better for the Eagles than McNabb?

My position is this: We could actually be shooting ourselves in the foot by hoping he leaves the division.... I think that we have a better shot at sweeping the Eagles, with McNabb on their team than w/o him, because their offense could possibly be more consistent w/ Kolb than with McNabb. With McNabb I think we could count on the 3-4 dead ducks he throws out there and those inaccurate passes to help us out. We no longer see the scrambling McNabb out there that can dodge half our defense and still convert a 30 yard pass, so having an older McNabb to play against may be better. On the other hand, Kolb is a traditional pocket passing-type QB that our defense will eat alive with the pass rush we have so it could be a good thing that we can rattle the cages of a young QB.

Either way what do ya'll think could we be shooting ourselves in the foot? :shoot5:

Personally, I'd prefer for McNabb to stay with the Eagles.

But even if he is traded, maybe Kolb does have better accuracy, but he may be lacking with other attributes. I can't really judge at this stage.

But I do know that McNabb is very mobile, and he can take punishment. For example, in our playoff win versus the Eagles in January (man, it's nice to say that! ), the defense really hit him good quite a few times. McNabb was able to keep getting up. He's got good size and can absorb some hard hits.

The reason I hope McNabb remains with the Eagles is that I don't want them to pick up any high draft picks, and I think McNabb's game has already peaked. IMO, he's already peaked. We've seen his best.

 

[casmith07]

Kevin Kolb is not the missing piece to the Eagles return to early 2000s prominence.

 

[zrinkill]

Kevin Kolb is not the missing piece to the Eagles return to early 2000s prominence.

I agree.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Fortunately, our wishing doesn't have one bit of effect on whether he's traded or not.

Personally, I would take my chances playing Kolb. I have no doubt he'll be better than McNabb is some areas, but I know he won't be as hard to sack as McNabb, he won't run for first downs like McNabb, and he doesn't have any playoff experience like McNabb.

McNabb might not be Joe Montana, but we know he's been pretty darn good. Kolb could be just another washout.

 

[InmanRoshi]

While McNabb has never been one for great accuracy in the short and intermediate range, one thing he's doesn't get the credit he deserves for is how well he takes care of the football. He doesn't throw a lot of interceptions for a quarterback that is asked to chuck the ball around as much as Andy Reid asks him to. Even when he is asked to throw 450+ pass attempts, he generally only has 10 INTs a year or so. And this isn't a traditional, dink and dunk, low-risk WCO we're talking about. The Eagles get yards in big chunks.

Kolb in only 2 career starts already has a 3 INT game under his belt. Kolb can look as good as he wants in practices against vanilla scouting team defenses, but the only way they're going to be able to judge his ability to avoid the stupid throw is when he's out on the field reading real NFL defensive coverages.

 

[Ren]

McNabb has been killing us for the better part of a decade, anyone who thinks Kolb is going to be better is kidding theme selves. I can't wait to have him out of the east.

I see a lot of ruing in the eagles future if they pull the trigger on this ray:

 

[Gzus]

I'm sure the Eagles will rue the trade once they do it, but I think that Kolb might end up being a pretty decent QB, better than McNabb? Possibly with the young skill players they have atm. Kolb has the benefit of jumping win with a young team that is for the most part stacked on offense. McNabb is pretty good, but Kolb could potentially be as good if not better.

 

[Verdict]

I do not think that Kolb is better than McNabb, and I'm not sure the Eagles think so either. The talking heads on the NFL Network actually made some sense when discussing this potential trade of McNabb yesterday. They indicated that the Kolb/McNabb issue (which is better debate) probably isn't the driving reason for offering him up in a trade.

The talking heads hypothesized that the Eagles are simply not willing to invest $100 million in McNabb which is what the talking heads thought it would take to resign McNabb next year, and the Eagles might as well get something for him THIS year instead of letting him walk at the end of next year with no compensation (unless it was a compensatory pick).

I think there is probably merit to this thought process.

 

[casmith07]

Mark Schlereth just gave a break down of Kevin Kolb about how he wasn't that bad.

All of the highlights were against the Chiefs pass rush.

 

[ShiningStar]

I think they want to boast his accuracy but he will lack the other skills that McNabb brought to this team from day 1. McNabb wasnt just a pocket presence that hurt Dallas, Dallas at that time being Dallas hurt Dallas, and the other skills that McNabb brought. His legs were fresher, he was faster, and his thinking was quicker. Kolb may not even bring any of those, even the fresh legs thats been waiting a while.

 

[montgod]

As others have said, it really doesn't matter to me as a Cowboys fan at this point since I think our team is just better. I would like to add that if they keep McNabb, then they will lose out on getting a high draft pick in a trade since McNabb will leave via FA next year. So in that context, sure... keep McNabb and Vick.

 

[SaltwaterServr]

Let me put it this way: I want McNabb to retire an Eagle.

Agreed. Wade's Cowboys are 5-2 against McRalph's Eagles.