Houston Astros fan friendly deal

[Doomsday101]

enough with the bashing of city of Houston, even though it is fun....back to the Astros.

Selig needs to leave baseball, all he has done as the commissioner is screw over the Astros little by little. The only person in baseball I hate more than Albert Pujols is Bud Selig.

I hate that we are going to the American League. I hate that Pujols will be there when we get there. I hate our last GM, he is worse than the love child of Matt Millen and Isaiah Thomas.

We have no pitching...starters or relievers. we have no power. we have no notable names. we have no consistent hitters. we do play adequate defense though.....our farm system is the worst in the majors

oh well, at least we have last place to look forward to again......I love my LASTros

I agree. I do understand why Jim Crane the owner took the deal and if he is willing to take the money he saved by agreeing to move to the AL and put it into this team both at the MLB level as well as the Farm team and help get this team back to a contending level then I have no problem giving him my support. Now if the Astros just continue to be the farm team to high priced ball clubs in the league and lose talented players then it will be hard to watch and support

 

[YosemiteSam]

You are speaking out of ignorance. Of course some prefer Dallas/Fort Worth (although there you are talking about 2 cities stacked up against one), and personally I do too. But Houston is certainly loaded with restaraunts, sports activities, historic areas etc. just as is Dallas/Fort Worth and other big cities. The also have world class medical centers, and cultural and entertainment facilities and organizations that match up well with others around the country.

It's ignorance because I hate the city? No. D/FW has better restaurants than Houston, better (and more) sports than Houston, and more historic areas than Houston. Nothing I said was incorrect or ignorant. Just straight up fact.

As for having what NYC has to offer, what city does? There are also negatives to being as massive as NYC as well. Being that huge brings huge positives and negatives. The same applies to Houston and other cities, although somewhat proportionately less.

Which is why I live in lower Connecticut. A 55 minute train ride to NYC... I've got the best of both worlds!

As for The Woodlands, I have no idea what your point is.

I said that is what my uncle said who lived there. (it has been 20+ years ago that he moved out of the Woodlands. He moved back to D/FW when he retired about 8 years ago) I also noted I didn't know what he meant about the Woodlands, so I'm not sure why you said you didn't know what I mean. I explained that clearly!

You seem to have this fixation that problems with Houston are unique to Houston, when the reality is they are generally just big city problems that apply to any huge city.

I just fixated on the fact that I can't stand the city nor almost every single person I've met from there. (met in person) They all have been ***holes or ****s. I suppose it's because I'm an ***hole and a **** and people generally don't like people who are just like them.

Houston sucks and I'm far far far from the only one who believes that.

I understand your Houston love. You're a Houstonian. It can be difficult to hate the place you're from. The Ragu Effect. You grew up there, you just don't know any better.

Now, you can tell me how I'm wrong but you're wasting your breath / typing. It's going to continue to suck no matter what you or I say.

 

[Stautner]

It's ignorance because I hate the city? No. D/FW has better restaurants than Houston, better (and more) sports than Houston, and more historic areas than Houston. Nothing I said was incorrect or ignorant. Just straight up fact.

Which is why I live in lower Connecticut. A 55 minute train ride to NYC... I've got the best of both worlds!



I said that is what my uncle said who lived there. (it has been 20+ years ago that he moved out of the Woodlands. He moved back to D/FW when he retired about 8 years ago) I also noted I didn't know what he meant about the Woodlands, so I'm not sure why you said you didn't know what I mean. I explained that clearly!



I just fixated on the fact that I can't stand the city nor almost every single person I've met from there. (met in person) They all have been ***holes or ****s. I suppose it's because I'm an ***hole and a **** and people generally don't like people who are just like them.

Houston sucks and I'm far far far from the only one who believes that.

I understand your Houston love. You're a Houstonian. It can be difficult to hate the place you're from. The Ragu Effect. You grew up there, you just don't know any better.

Now, you can tell me how I'm wrong but you're wasting your breath / typing. It's going to continue to suck no matter what you or I say.

No, it's ignorance because you are talking about something you know little about. That's the definition of ignorance.

First lets clear something up. I am not a Houstonian - I live on the other side of the state. I'm not even a big fan of Houston. Much too humid for my liking, and I'm also not a big fan of living in a massive metropolitan area. But the thing is, the "facts" you claim are actually just opinions that have little foundation.

For example, on what do you base the notion that the restaraunts are better in Dallas? Houston has the same chains, and I'm guessing you aren't qualified to judge all the local and/or elite restaraunts. In a city of 3,000,000 people I'm certain you haven't even scratched the surface of what Houston has to offer - probably not Dallas either, and I further imagine a high percentage you have tried are chains.

As for Sports, are the Cowboys currently better than the Texans? Historically who has had better basketball, the Mavs or the Rockets? Baseball is probably a wash. Of course Dallas, or even Dallas County, isn't even home to the Cowboys or Rangers. My opinion is the DFW area is somewhat above the Houston area in sports, but the bottom line is there is no huge disparity where either city is deep in the shadows.

As for the Woodlands, I was merely pointing out that you plugged in your comment as if it made some point, and then followed up by admitting it was a meaningless comment - so why did you make it?

The bottom line to all this is it doesn't bother me in the least if you don't like Houston. As I said, I have no particular fondness of it myself. But at least be fair minded and not make up a lot of mindless and baseless BS to justify thinking that way.

 

[Cythim]

enough with the bashing of city of Houston, even though it is fun....back to the Astros.

Selig needs to leave baseball, all he has done as the commissioner is screw over the Astros little by little. The only person in baseball I hate more than Albert Pujols is Bud Selig.

I hate that we are going to the American League. I hate that Pujols will be there when we get there. I hate our last GM, he is worse than the love child of Matt Millen and Isaiah Thomas.

We have no pitching...starters or relievers. we have no power. we have no notable names. we have no consistent hitters. we do play adequate defense though.....our farm system is the worst in the majors

oh well, at least we have last place to look forward to again......I love my LASTros

Altuve and Martinez were fun to watch at the end of last season. I hope they can be the core of what is being rebuilt in Houston.

I hate the move to the AL but I like it at the same time. I don't want to lose the Cubs or Cards but I live in Washington and will get to travel to Seattle a few times each year to catch an Astros game. Hopefully being in the same division as the Mariners will keep us from being in last place as well.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Exactly, and that's jsut natural. Sam talks about Dallas/Fort Worth, but the same has happened there. Originally people loved places like Plano, Frisco, Grapevine, etc, but the population has spread further and further from Dallas and Fort Worth and those places are now heavily populated. Outward expansion is how cities/populations grow. That isn't unique to Houston.

Dude, you're implying I said stuff I didn't say. I never said anything about Woodlands. I just said my uncle moved away from there for some reason that I don't recall. I realize there are nice areas in all places, but quit trying to pin crap on me that I didn't say. Don't worry, I will openly bash all I want. I don't need you implying stuff I didn't say.

I also find it funny that while Sam extolls the virtues of NYC, he also says you don't want to live there, but rather the key is to live in Connecticut. I wonder if he thinks that is really an option for the 20 million or more people that actually live in NYC?

Screw them. I'm Sam I Am. .....I'm King, I Rule, I'mmmmm the ****ing President!

As for history, I wonder if he realizes the Johnson Space Center is just outside Houston, or that next to Ellis Island Galveston was one of the major immigration points that the US population is built on. Or the nearby San Jacinto Battleground that gained Texas independence from Mexico, and thereby allowed Texas to become part of the US. Does he really think the Dallas area is more historical?

Dallas / Ft Worth is more historical than Houston and don't you forget it! Hell, Fort Worth probably has more substantial history alone without including Dallas History. ...and if you want to include surrounding areas, (as you were pointing out) you are seriously looking for a major historical ***-whipping!

Are we done here? Cause if not, debate class is that way ---> :laugh2:

 

[Doomsday101]

Altuve and Martinez were fun to watch at the end of last season. I hope they can be the core of what is being rebuilt in Houston.

I hate the move to the AL but I like it at the same time. I don't want to lose the Cubs or Cards but I live in Washington and will get to travel to Seattle a few times each year to catch an Astros game. Hopefully being in the same division as the Mariners will keep us from being in last place as well.

Hopefully Jim Crane is willing to spend the money and with new GM Jeff Luhnow who was the Vice President of the Cards from 2003 to 2011 can help bring talent to this team both at the Major league level and Farm teams

 

[Stautner]

Altuve and Martinez were fun to watch at the end of last season. I hope they can be the core of what is being rebuilt in Houston.

I hate the move to the AL but I like it at the same time. I don't want to lose the Cubs or Cards but I live in Washington and will get to travel to Seattle a few times each year to catch an Astros game. Hopefully being in the same division as the Mariners will keep us from being in last place as well.

My biggest concern about the move is that now that each league will have an odd number of teams their will have to be interleague throughout the year so all teams will have an opponent. I just hope they don't use that as a reason to beef up the interleague schedule, and instead just plug in interleague series scattered throughout the season to cover for the teams needing an opponent at the moment. I like having 2 distinct leagues so that come WS time there really is a league rivalry and a contest of teams that are truly unfamiliar with each other.

 

[Doomsday101]

My biggest concern about the move is that now that each league will have an odd number of teams their will have to be interleague throughout the year so all teams will have an opponent. I just hope they don't use that as a reason to beef up the interleague schedule, and instead just plug in interleague series scattered throughout the season to cover for the teams needing an opponent at the moment. I like having 2 distinct leagues so that come WS time there really is a league rivalry and a contest of teams that are truly unfamiliar with each other.

I don't know I have to say I like interleague play. I'm not an avid baseball fan I do enjoy the game but after all with 162 games it gets old as the season moves on but when a team like the Yankees come to Houston or the Redsox it at least sparks my interest since that is really the only chance I would get to see them play in person. I'm sure the MLB purest see it differently and I understand that.

 

[Stautner]

Dude, you're implying I said stuff I didn't say. I never said anything about Woodlands. I just said my uncle moved away from there for some reason that I don't recall. I realize there are nice areas in all places, but quit trying to pin crap on me that I didn't say. Don't worry, I will openly bash all I want. I don't need you implying stuff I didn't say.



Screw them. I'm Sam I Am. .....I'm King, I Rule, I'mmmmm the ****ing President!



Dallas / Ft Worth is more historical than Houston and don't you forget it! Hell, Fort Worth probably has more substantial history alone without including Dallas History. ...and if you want to include surrounding areas, (as you were pointing out) you are seriously looking for a major historical ***-whipping!

Are we done here? Cause if not, debate class is that way ---> :laugh2:

Once again, you speak without any substance, insisting that Dallas/Fort Worth is more historical than Houston, but not having the ability to say anything that even suggests it.

I'll help you - Fort Worth was a major cattle center. Dallas was where Kennedy was shot. Important slices of history, but considering Houston was at one time slated to be the Capital of Texas, was named after the first President of the Republic of Texas and commander of the army that gained independence from Mexico, is a major American ship channel, is the business center of the petroleum industry, is the home of the Johnson Space Center that was home of the Apollo missions and is key in every aspect of the space program, is in very close proximity to key battlesites in the Texas Revolution, was the site of the first implant of an artifical heart, is interlinked with the vast history of Galveston from which untold numbers of immigrants entered the US in the 1800's ......

Sorry, no battles of Dallas or Tarrent Counties, no key Dallas locals integral to the formation of the Republic of Texas or statehood ...... Dallas is a major metropolitan city now with national influence, but the history of Texas is infinitely more tied to the areas around Houston, Austin and San Antonio.

Of course, this is like your claim that Dallas has better restaraunts. It's an easy comment to make, but again you have offered absolutely zero substance to support that claim.

I don't know I have to say I like interleague play. I'm not an avid baseball fan I do enjoy the game but after all with 162 games it gets old as the season moves on but when a team like the Yankees come to Houston or the Redsox it at least sparks my interest since that is really the only chance I would get to see them play in person. I'm sure the MLB purest see it differently and I understand that.

I have no problem with interleague as long as it is limited. I agree that interleague series here and there creates some added interest, but that wouldn't be the case if interleague play was a run of the mill every day thing. When the Astros come to an American League park, or the Rangers come to a National League park it is a welcome change from the ordinary, and would not have the same appeal if it became part of the ordinary. Plus, unlike other sports, the championship between the two leagues is truly a competition between separate entities that are perceived by the public as separate with their own unique qualities. It's the pitching/strategy/speed league (NL) vs. the offensive minded DH included, power hitting league (AL). It's the tradition of the league of the Brooklyn Dodgers vs the league of the Yankees. With basketball and baseball the leagues/conferences are so intertwined that the championship doesn't have the same feel as baseball.

 

[Rynie]

I freaking hate that city. It stinks, it's dirty and everyone I've ever met (in person anyhow) from there were *******s.

It might stink less if you moved out.

Same here. I LOATHE everything about that putrid city.

 

[jimmy40]

The worst things about Houston are the heat, humidity, floods, and traffic. Three of those cannot be controlled by humans.

you forgot mosquitoes the size of eagles.
and then there's this

 

[coogrfan]

Dallas / Ft Worth is more historical than Houston and don't you forget it! Hell, Fort Worth probably has more substantial history alone without including Dallas History. ...and if you want to include surrounding areas, (as you were pointing out) you are seriously looking for a major historical ***-whipping!

Hmmm. Houston's most significant historical site is the San Jacinto battlefield. Dallas' is the Texas School Book Depository.

Advantage H-Town.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Hmmm. Houston's most significant historical site is the San Jacinto battlefield. Dallas' is the Texas School Book Depository.

Advantage H-Town.

Dude, are we at this again? Houston is a turd. It's a skid mark on the *** of Texas. (literally, look at it's location) Let it go dude. You can't win. You can never win.

 

[coogrfan]

Dude, are we at this again? Houston is a turd. It's a skid mark on the *** of Texas. (literally, look at it's location) Let it go dude. You can't win. You can never win.

Who could possibly refute an argument as well thought out and coherently presented as this?