CFZ How much do DC's & OC's mean to team continuity?

jazzcat22

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I been saying all off-season, one of the reasons Dallas has closed the gap on Philly and SF is this very reason.

Philly lost 7 starters to FA. Yes they may have replaced a few via the draft, even last years draft they may get some decent players going into year 2.
However the lost both DC & OC, how will that play out, along with the FA losses.

SF, same thing, they lost 9 players in FA, and a horrible draft, only signed a few FA's. QB is up in the air, in spite of Brock's performance last season.
They lost their OC, though in title only, but he was still very much involved with that offense. An example as to why, I will address below as I bring up a point with KC.

Dallas, kept DQ going into his 3rd season with mostly the same players, and added new talent. Moore is gone, and many think that will be better. And with MM calling plays, and his changes. Is About the same as SF losing their OC.

KC. Does anyone realize. KC lost their OC in title though. Will get to that part. Also lost their DC and ST's coach. This was mentioned on NFLN yesterday.
Now even though Bienemy left KC, he was that buffer between the player sand Reid. They said Bienemy kept the players in check, and held them accountable on the sideline during games, so Reid could focus on the play calling.

I know some will blow this type of stuff off. But to me it can make a difference. Even if it cost them only a few games. But as we know those few games can make that difference for a division title and even HFA.

IMO, Dallas kept the best continuity.
 

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OC (more specifically, playcaller) matters a ton. Offensive continuity is important.

Defenses are really only as good as their talent, so not as much.
 

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I been saying all off-season, one of the reasons Dallas has closed the gap on Philly and SF is this very reason.

Philly lost 7 starters to FA. Yes they may have replaced a few via the draft, even last years draft they may get some decent players going into year 2.
However the lost both DC & OC, how will that play out, along with the FA losses.

SF, same thing, they lost 9 players in FA, and a horrible draft, only signed a few FA's. QB is up in the air, in spite of Brock's performance last season.
They lost their OC, though in title only, but he was still very much involved with that offense. An example as to why, I will address below as I bring up a point with KC.

Dallas, kept DQ going into his 3rd season with mostly the same players, and added new talent. Moore is gone, and many think that will be better. And with MM calling plays, and his changes. Is About the same as SF losing their OC.

KC. Does anyone realize. KC lost their OC in title though. Will get to that part. Also lost their DC and ST's coach. This was mentioned on NFLN yesterday.
Now even though Bienemy left KC, he was that buffer between the player sand Reid. They said Bienemy kept the players in check, and held them accountable on the sideline during games, so Reid could focus on the play calling.

I know some will blow this type of stuff off. But to me it can make a difference. Even if it cost them only a few games. But as we know those few games can make that difference for a division title and even HFA.

IMO, Dallas kept the best continuity.
It varies, depends on the HC. The system is more important. When a coordinator leaves, a new one comes in, if he makes radical changes to a successful system, not good. If he makes radical changes to a poor system, that excites the team and gives them new hope.
 

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OC (more specifically, playcaller) matters a ton. Offensive continuity is important.

Defenses are really only as good as their talent, so not as much.
I do agree with this premise but I would say that it is very important that the defensive talent likes the defensive coaches and are willing to ball out for them.
 

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I think they are both important to continuity. They aid in the communication of the coach's vision. Knowing your assignment and trusting the guy next to you knowing his comes down to communication, "The the biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place" The OC and DC are entrusted to communicate the strategic plans of attack each week. How many times have we heard players not being on the same page. The result is that you either give up a big play or don't make the big play.
 

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Somehow managing to keep Quinn two years in a row is HUGE. Jerry must have given him an island or something.

Quinn must really like it here, and he must love the potential of this defense.

Moore wasn't a big loss because McCarthy has called plays his whole career. (Moore will be good in LA.)
 

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I do agree with this premise but I would say that it is very important that the defensive talent likes the defensive coaches and are willing to ball out for them.
Eh, I guess.

A defense that is outmanned is going to stink regardless of how hard they try though.
 
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