I can’t figure out how we clinched playoffs with Washington loss

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I pride myself on understanding stats. This one baffles me. Does it go to strength of schedule vs Seattle?
 
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baltcowboy said:
Washington and the Giants still can finish with a better record than us. It has something to do with strength of schedule concerning the Seahawks and Lions would be my guess.
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Yeah, I think it has to do with if Det/Sea/Dal have a 3-way tie at 10-7. Then Detroit’s loss to Dallas isn’t involved and it goes to 3-way tiebreaker, which Det has played Was and Sea has played NYG, so that game has some kind of SoS impact
 
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We were never in danger of missing the playoffs. We had a 2.5 game advantage on both of the other wc teams and more on those on the outside. We swept the Giants and already beat Washington. What do other teams have to do to reach our 10 victories? There would have to be 3 wc teams with 10 victories and tie breakers over Dallas. That doesn’t exist.
 
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because of our conference record.
even losing our last 2 conference games...we still would make it in.
 
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cowboyec said:
because of our conference record.
even losing our last 2 conference games...we still would make it in.
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This applies to the Seahawks who cannot finish with a better conference record than Dallas. Detroit can finish at 8-4 in the conference. If Dallas loses out they would finish at 7-5. But Dallas beat Detroit head to head so Dallas wins the tie breaker. The Cowboys cannot tie the Giants and Washington unless the Cowboys finish with a tie game in their next 3 games. That would also guarantee them a playoff spot.
 

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This applies to the Seahawks who cannot finish with a better conference record than Dallas. Detroit can finish at 8-4 in the conference. If Dallas loses out they would finish at 7-5. But Dallas beat Detroit head to head so Dallas wins the tie breaker. The Cowboys cannot tie the Giants and Washington unless the Cowboys finish with a tie game in their next 3 games. That would also guarantee them a playoff spot.
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This came the closest to explaining it, but I still don’t know what anything to do with Wash-Giants could impact this.

Why did they not have the tiebreaker with Seattle and Detroit regardless if Washington won or lost? What did a Commander loss do to change it?
 
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silvernblu said:
This came the closest to explaining it, but I still don’t know what anything to do with Wash-Giants could impact this.

Oh, I see your point. Good question. I think the answer is if Washington won and Washington, NY and Dallas wind up tied with Seattle and Detroit, at 10-6-1, Dallas would lose the division tiebreaker to Washington. Had Washington won they could finish with a division record of 3-2-1. Dallas could finish at 3-3. The tiebreaker rules start with divisions ties. Washington would eliminate NY and or Dallas in a tie breaker. Then Washington moves on to a tie breaker with Detroit and Seattle. Now Washington ca only finish with a 2-3-1 record in the division.

Of course this would be an incredibly unlikely scenario but it was possible. At this point, with Washington losing there is no circumstance where Washington wins a tie breaker over Dallas no matter what happens. Washington can pass Dallas in the standings by winning out, (NY can pass Dallas by winning 2 more games). Dallas can actually finish last in the division still. The need a win or tie to clinch 2nd place and the 5th seed.
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silvernblu said:
I pride myself on understanding stats. This one baffles me. Does it go to strength of schedule vs Seattle?
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Because that's what the media people said (despite it not making any sense).

I've been saying this since yesterday before that game. It doesn't make sense that a game between these two teams with a tie would matter.

I believe we clinched the moment Seattle lost on Thursday.
 
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Aerolithe_Lion said:
Yeah, I think it has to do with if Det/Sea/Dal have a 3-way tie at 10-7. Then Detroit’s loss to Dallas isn’t involved and it goes to 3-way tiebreaker, which Det has played Was and Sea has played NYG, so that game has some kind of SoS impact
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Nope. Detroit's loss is involved. They have lost to both Sea and Dallas and would be eliminated, leaving a 2-way tiebreaker between Dallas/Seattle. Dallas wins.
 
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Kevinicus said:
Because that's what the media people said (despite it not making any sense).

I've been saying this since yesterday before that game. It doesn't make sense that a game between these two teams with a tie would matter.
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I can't explain it either but NFL.com has us clinching a spot as well.
 
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The Cowboys are locked in as at least the 7 seed now. They will win any 10-7 tiebreaker over Detroit and Seattle, which need to win out to get to 10-7. And since the best the Commanders can do is 10-6-1, the Cowboys are in.

Also the worst possible conference record Dallas can finish with now is 7-5, which would also edge both Detroit and Seattle for the 7th seed IF the Giants and Commanders are the 5 and 6 seed.

It's complicated but trust me, it all works out.
 
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