I Think this team has already given up

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I don't mean just the players giving up. the coaching staff has given up. yeah yeah yeah, they all say the right things as they are supposed to, but you can see it. the lack of effort, by the coaches in putting together a good game plan. the lack of attention to detail in the plays they design. some of it makes zero sense. the lack of attention to details in how the play is run, how the route is run, etc.

the coaches are in a lame duck year. they all know they didn't get the vote of confidence from Jerry. often coaches get let go with years left on their contract, but Jerry thinks people are stupid, so he doesn't give them vote of confidence, in a lame duck year, then he says he has confidence in the personnel, so essentially the debacle is coaches fault because God knows jerry put together a great talented team.

I been rewatching some of the games, I compared it to the other teams, been watching some of the break downs and you can see we totally lack preparedness, the play designs and execution is more like back yard football and the other teams are highly detail oriented. a lot of the plays don't make sense. on offense add to it Dak's propensity to make a wrong play at times, which given we have zero margin for error, it snow balls the situation. the players attitude and demeanor on the field is starting to show...then there is the undisciplined defense, that lacks talent and everyone playing hero ball. back yard football as I said.

this thing is about to blow up. Jerry can talk right now, being 3-3 but in about 5 weeks when we are 3-7 and things just accelerate towards bad, then jerry's spin are going to get harder. I think this team at best is got the look of a 5-12 team.

 

[J_Allen]

Whatever they do gets undermined by Jerry. He's not giving it them the best players to work with and then lets them circumvent the coaching staff and run to him when things go wrong. I can't imagine being a coach there.

 

[Aven8]

It all goes back to the trenches with this bunch. Both lines are lousy right now and if they don’t play well, nobody does. They have to do some sort of a shakeup during this bye, specifically on the offensive line. Whether that’s moving parts around or changing the blocking scheme if they want to salvage this season.

 

[links18]

It all goes back to the trenches with this bunch. Both lines are lousy right now and if they don’t play well, nobody does. They have to do some sort of a shakeup during this bye, specifically on the offensive line. Whether that’s moving parts around or changing the blocking scheme if they want to salvage this season.

The Coast Guard couldn't salvage this season.

 

[John813]

I think players are frustrated to where if the game doesn't go off as planned, you start to see players miss gap assignments on defense, not wrap up properly and make business decisions.
Same on offense. CDL can check himself out and then once he's in the funk the offense has no gamebreaking talent.
Add in struggling trenches, yea, games can go south quickly.

 

[Floatyworm]

I don't mean just the players giving up. the coaching staff has given up. yeah yeah yeah, they all say the right things as they are supposed to, but you can see it. the lack of effort, by the coaches in putting together a good game plan. the lack of attention to detail in the plays they design. some of it makes zero sense. the lack of attention to details in how the play is run, how the route is run, etc.

the coaches are in a lame duck year. they all know they didn't get the vote of confidence from Jerry. often coaches get let go with years left on their contract, but Jerry thinks people are stupid, so he doesn't give them vote of confidence, in a lame duck year, then he says he has confidence in the personnel, so essentially the debacle is coaches fault because God knows jerry put together a great talented team.

I been rewatching some of the games, I compared it to the other teams, been watching some of the break downs and you can see we totally lack preparedness, the play designs and execution is more like back yard football and the other teams are highly detail oriented. a lot of the plays don't make sense. on offense add to it Dak's propensity to make a wrong play at times, which given we have zero margin for error, it snow balls the situation. the players attitude and demeanor on the field is starting to show...then there is the undisciplined defense, that lacks talent and everyone playing hero ball. back yard football as I said.

this thing is about to blow up. Jerry can talk right now, being 3-3 but in about 5 weeks when we are 3-7 and things just accelerate towards bad, then jerry's spin are going to get harder. I think this team at best is got the look of a 5-12 team.

Weird....the exact same record I said we would have to start the season.

But your spot on.....team and coaches have mailed it in. It's the Titanic....and the fiddles have begin to play.

 

[JohnsKey19]

The Lame Duck coach struggle is a thing in the NFL.

 

[Kingofholland]

I don't mean just the players giving up. the coaching staff has given up. yeah yeah yeah, they all say the right things as they are supposed to, but you can see it. the lack of effort, by the coaches in putting together a good game plan. the lack of attention to detail in the plays they design. some of it makes zero sense. the lack of attention to details in how the play is run, how the route is run, etc.

the coaches are in a lame duck year. they all know they didn't get the vote of confidence from Jerry. often coaches get let go with years left on their contract, but Jerry thinks people are stupid, so he doesn't give them vote of confidence, in a lame duck year, then he says he has confidence in the personnel, so essentially the debacle is coaches fault because God knows jerry put together a great talented team.

I been rewatching some of the games, I compared it to the other teams, been watching some of the break downs and you can see we totally lack preparedness, the play designs and execution is more like back yard football and the other teams are highly detail oriented. a lot of the plays don't make sense. on offense add to it Dak's propensity to make a wrong play at times, which given we have zero margin for error, it snow balls the situation. the players attitude and demeanor on the field is starting to show...then there is the undisciplined defense, that lacks talent and everyone playing hero ball. back yard football as I said.

this thing is about to blow up. Jerry can talk right now, being 3-3 but in about 5 weeks when we are 3-7 and things just accelerate towards bad, then jerry's spin are going to get harder. I think this team at best is got the look of a 5-12 team.

Certainly looks like a bunch of guys that don't care sans a few.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I don't mean just the players giving up. the coaching staff has given up. yeah yeah yeah, they all say the right things as they are supposed to, but you can see it. the lack of effort, by the coaches in putting together a good game plan. the lack of attention to detail in the plays they design. some of it makes zero sense. the lack of attention to details in how the play is run, how the route is run, etc

I see what you are saying but keep in mind players and coaches HAVE to play the game each week, ready or not. I don't think they have given up, but we are seeing a combination of a lack of talent, discipline, and little or no motivation. The offense has no run game and a couple of legit receivers, making it easy to defend. The D is trying to learn a new scheme with some Q players of leftover bottom feeders. In other words, MM can't suddenly make Rico a 1000-yard type RB or Brooks/Tolbert legit 2nd-type WRs but he's got to play them anyway and hope for the best.

The bottom line IMO is Jerry has put this team to one of its lowest points talent-wise since 1989, the year he purchased it. So many issues need fixing you hardly know where to start.
Look at this.......and most if not all these teams ALSO have legit RBs and decent defenses........

 

[thunderpimp91]

I think a lot of players have given up, and we saw that on Sunday with guys making a lot of those business decisions on the field. Its tough for me to see it getting any better unless they can pull off the upset against SF, lose that game and I think you can officially stick a fork in this team. I think they may have one final chance to rally the troops and sell the locker room on getting back Bland, Diggs, and maybe a couple other guys after the bye week, but it does seem like slim odds.

Coaching wise I still struggle to say that they have packed it in. I'm sure its tough and apathy has to start to set in when you see guys on the field giving up, your owner is a national embarrassment, all while you're trying to scheme around deficiencies in talent on your roster. Schematically I think there are some tweaks I'd like to see on both sides of the ball (Zimmers coverages, dropping a safety against read option teams, using motion in the run game more) but overall I think they are doing about what they can schematically. To me the coaching failure is in terms of getting guys ready to play and keeping morale up in the locker room, but as many have been screaming all offseason that's tough to do with coaches on 1 year deals.

 

[TheMightyVanHalen]

I Think this team has already given up​

Ugh. I think you might be right. If our team gets embarrassed against the 49ers, then that will tell us they have.

CDL can check himself out and then once he's in the funk the offense has no gamebreaking talent.

I thought CD was an alpha until I saw him get pushed in the back by that Packers cornerback and CD didn't do crap. He got punked. Right then I knew he is a beta.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

It's almost as if Jerry and Stephens are still living in the 80s and 90s where you could win big as long as you had either a top-level head coach or a couple of ALL-Pros on both sides of the ball ( see Barry Switzer ). That is still their mindset IMO, sign Dak, Lamb, Diggs, and Parsons and we are good to go with the rest low-level talent. That doesn't work today, there is way too much parity in the league.

Remember when there was a time you matched your talent against conference champions and said we need to upgrade this and this position in the off-season to compete with them next season. LOL ....when the last you heard Jerry say anything about upgrading?

He reminds me 70s when Sears and K-Mart were the mega retail giants of the world. But they got arrogant and refused to acknowledge Walmart as a legit player who was pumping more money into research, technology and upgrades. 40 years later, they both are pretty much out of business coz they refused to compete.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I see what you are saying but keep in mind players and coaches HAVE to play the game each week, ready or not. I don't think they have given up, but we are seeing a combination of a lack of talent, discipline, and little or no motivation. The offense has no run game and a couple of legit receivers, making it easy to defend. The D is trying to learn a new scheme with some Q players of leftover bottom feeders. In other words, MM can't suddenly make Rico a 1000-yard type RB or Brooks/Tolbert legit 2nd-type WRs but he's got to play them anyway and hope for the best.

The bottom line IMO is Jerry has put this team to one of its lowest points talent-wise since 1989, the year he purchased it. So many issues need fixing you hardly know where to start.
Look at this.......and most if not all these teams ALSO have legit RBs and decent defenses........

I think they know they have to play, at this point its just going through the motions...when you do that, just show up and punch the clock, you miss attention to detail and in this game, that's the most important part

 

[Cmac]

The game looked like a Detroit scrimmage......vs Scout team.

 

[G2]

Also, they suck

 

[Coogiguy03]

It's almost as if Jerry and Stephens are still living in the 80s and 90s where you could win big as long as you had either a top-level head coach or a couple of ALL-Pros on both sides of the ball ( see Barry Switzer ). That is still their mindset IMO, sign Dak, Lamb, Diggs, and Parsons and we are good to go with the rest low-level talent. That doesn't work today, there is way too much parity in the league.

Remember when there was a time you matched your talent against conference champions and said we need to upgrade this and this position in the off-season to compete with them next season. LOL ....when the last you heard Jerry say anything about upgrading?

He reminds me 70s when Sears and K-Mart were the mega retail giants of the world. But they got arrogant and refused to acknowledge Walmart as a legit player who was pumping more money into research, technology and upgrades. 40 years later, they both are pretty much out of business coz they refused to compete.

seems like they're looking to much into the future instead of focusing on the now

 

[Gonzomandela01]

Once again the fate of the Cowboys franchise goes through SanFran, how do tou like it?

Football and life have a funny way of putting things in the way.
Will these guys show some pride and rescue their season from the falldown?

Nah... they will play hard for about half a quarter and then crumble again, the whiners are a power house even with all their injuries, Dallas will be humilliated once again and the Joneses will hide their faces, McCarthy will mumble the same old cliche coaching thing, and Prescott will pick a specially nice outfit for the press conference.

 

[MyFairLady]

When you pay your "stars" you declare them to be the leaders of your football team.

On defense over the years we have declared guys like Lawrence, Diggs and J Smooth as our leaders. We are getting what we deserve.

On offense over the years we have declared guys like Dez, Zeke and Martin as our leaders. We are getting what we deserve.

 

[diamonddelts]

When you pay your "stars" you declare them to be the leaders of your football team.

On defense over the years we have declared guys like Lawrence, Diggs and J Smooth as our leaders. We are getting what we deserve.

On offense over the years we have declared guys like Dez, Zeke and Martin as our leaders. We are getting what we deserve.

J Smooth? Wth.

 

[MyFairLady]

J Smooth? Wth.

Somehow you missed that phase of the Jaylon Smith experiment. Wish I could say the same.