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These are the players that I want Dallas to be choosing from (Calijah Kancey, Bryan Bresee, Bijan Robinson, Jahmyr Gibbs, Broderick Jones, Darnell Wright, Dalton Kincaid and Michael Mayer). If we can't get one of those, rather than taking a CB or a DE or reaching for a player at a position where the need is greater, I'd prefer we trade down.

Based on the value chart I'm looking at, we could trade into the late 30s and pick up a third-rounder in the 60s-70s for our No. 1 (although we might have to throw in a pick). Let's say 26 (700) to Las Vegas for 38 (520) and 70 (240), with us also needing to give up 129 (43). That would possibly allows us to take G Steve Avila or DT Tui Tuilupotu closer to where their value seems to be.

I wouldn't be opposed to then trading 58 (320) and 90 (140) to trade up in the 40s for the other one of those two. Then, we'd still have 70 to use on a running back like Tyjae Spears.

We'd lose our fourth, but have Avila, Tuilupotu and Spears. I could live with that haul for the first three rounds.
 

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This can be one of those quality over quantity type drafts. But I do like the have more selections, as we have once again too many contracts coming up. And need future players.

I need to take a good deep look at the roster though. How many players from the draft can actually make the roster. I mean like players selected in rounds 4 through 7, as the team really likes keeping all their draft picks not he roster. There really are not starters positions open, well, not many. OG and DT. Those can or should be draft day 1 & 2.

So depth / future players after that. I think 5 can be replaced pretty easy. But if they have 10 picks, can 8 be replaced, that is harder to say and do. Therefore, back to the quality over the quantity.
 

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Therefore, back to the quality over the quantity.
It doesn't make sense to draft a bunch of folks you end up cutting. Do what it takes to get 3-4 players you truly believe can come in & contribute.

Quantity is fine for teams needing a lot of turnover. Quality is for completing a team.
 

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Misread the first time. You gave a list of who you want that would be gone but you need to list who is available.
 

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This can be one of those quality over quantity type drafts. But I do like the have more selections, as we have once again too many contracts coming up. And need future players.

I need to take a good deep look at the roster though. How many players from the draft can actually make the roster. I mean like players selected in rounds 4 through 7, as the team really likes keeping all their draft picks not he roster. There really are not starters positions open, well, not many. OG and DT. Those can or should be draft day 1 & 2.

So depth / future players after that. I think 5 can be replaced pretty easy. But if they have 10 picks, can 8 be replaced, that is harder to say and do. Therefore, back to the quality over the quantity.
It's pretty easy for me to pick 8-10 players who could be replaced in the draft/UDFA this year.

The bottom 15-20% of the roster isn't anything special. No different than any other team.

So if A) there isn't anyone the Cowboys like at 26 or B) there is a poll of players all graded equally....then for gosh sakes trade down.

Even if it's just 3-4 spots and you get a top half of the 4th. 6-7 spots gets you into the 3rd. But I'm not a big fan of moving more than 10-12 picks down.
 

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If those guys are going early, studs are falling.

Joey Porter Jr and Deonte Banks are my dream picks for the Cowboys. Porter is the kind of CB that Dan Quinn would make in a lab. Banks has a little less length, but would still give us a wild, CB1 caliber athlete as our #2.

I don't think there's any way Porter leaves the top 20, and Banks falling to #26 would take the stars aligning. But if other teams want to take Mayer and Bresee ahead of those beasts, they can be my guest.
 
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If those guys are going early, studs are falling.

Joey Porter Jr and Deonte Banks are my dream picks for the Cowboys. Porter is the kind of CB that Dan Quinn would make in a lab. Banks has a little less length, but would still give us a wild, CB1 caliber athlete as our #2.

I don't think there's any way Porter leaves the top 20, and Banks falling to #26 would take the stars aligning. But if other teams want to take Mayer and Bresee ahead of those beasts, they can be my guest.
I actually wouldn’t be surprised if Witherspoon falls a little.

I know he’s being mocked super high but the # of CBs taken in the 1st at his weight you can count on one hand.
 

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The more draft picks the better. Will McClay has proven he knows what he’s doing.
McClay has done well drafting for sure. But I feel like 7-8 picks is where we want to be.

Realistically speaking you’re going to find needs at 3rd QB, RB (depending how they feel about Jones), TE, LG, DT, K.

I see really only 5-6 open spots on the roster and two of them are 3rd string QB and Kicker.

We have several unproven guys who could step up this year. Malik Davis, Jalen Tolbert, Simi Fehoko, Israel Mukuamu, Marquise Bell, Devin Harper, Damone Clark, Matt Waletzko to name a few who could have big roles this season.

He has built a very good roster from 1 to 53.
 

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The more draft picks the better. Will McClay has proven he knows what he’s doing.
They’ve actually been better on day three than day two lately.

I’m pretty sure that’s where the Joneses back off and let him do his thing.
 

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These are the players that I want Dallas to be choosing from (Calijah Kancey, Bryan Bresee, Bijan Robinson, Jahmyr Gibbs, Broderick Jones, Darnell Wright, Dalton Kincaid and Michael Mayer). If we can't get one of those, rather than taking a CB or a DE or reaching for a player at a position where the need is greater, I'd prefer we trade down.

Based on the value chart I'm looking at, we could trade into the late 30s and pick up a third-rounder in the 60s-70s for our No. 1 (although we might have to throw in a pick). Let's say 26 (700) to Las Vegas for 38 (520) and 70 (240), with us also needing to give up 129 (43). That would possibly allows us to take G Steve Avila or DT Tui Tuilupotu closer to where their value seems to be.

I wouldn't be opposed to then trading 58 (320) and 90 (140) to trade up in the 40s for the other one of those two. Then, we'd still have 70 to use on a running back like Tyjae Spears.

We'd lose our fourth, but have Avila, Tuilupotu and Spears. I could live with that haul for the first three rounds.
The team has never traded away from that 5th yr option, they discuss it every year before the draft. Best case scenario is with the Chiefs who hold the last pick in the 1st rd, we can get a late third, but would also have to give up a 5. Just take the best player available!
 

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The team has never traded away from that 5th yr option, they discuss it every year before the draft. Best case scenario is with the Chiefs who hold the last pick in the 1st rd, we can get a late third, but would also have to give up a 5. Just take the best player available!
Yeah, I'm not expecting it. They are good about holding position for the most part. Might be a Frederick situation where we've got our eyes on a player but think we can get him a little later with Avila. I'm not sure when we traded back for Frederick, though, if we were doing it only with him in mind. I think we wanted for sure to go OL, and there were a couple of end-of-the-round ones left (Long and Frederick). I think once Warmack and Cooper went off the board, we were trading down. Sometimes the dominoes fall into place.
 

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Yeah, I'm not expecting it. They are good about holding position for the most part. Might be a Frederick situation where we've got our eyes on a player but think we can get him a little later with Avila. I'm not sure when we traded back for Frederick, though, if we were doing it only with him in mind. I think we wanted for sure to go OL, and there were a couple of end-of-the-round ones left (Long and Frederick). I think once Warmack and Cooper went off the board, we were trading down. Sometimes the dominoes fall into place.
I think there will be better players available then Avilia, which sounds like a reach to fill a need at 26.
 

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I think there will be better players available then Avilia, which sounds like a reach to fill a need at 26.
Right. I don't think we'll take Avila at 26, but only with a trade down, like we did with Frederick, which was my point. We don't trade down very often, but the last time we did was when we wanted an offensive lineman and all the ones worth taking with our pick were gone. Worked out pretty well.
 

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Right. I don't think we'll take Avila at 26, but only with a trade down, like we did with Frederick, which was my point. We don't trade down very often, but the last time we did was when we wanted an offensive lineman and all the ones worth taking with our pick were gone. Worked out pretty well.
The trade worked out well due to the players drafted, but they got killed on the compensation. Trading that far back, should of gotten us another 2nd rd pick, they got a 3rd. Wipe out scenario, then you look to take a Guard or try to move back. Think that is unlikely with what they did in fa.
 

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OG: Avila, Torrence, Schmidt
Edge: McDonald, Hall, FAU
SS: Branch
TE: Washington

Dallas would probably take Avila who their rumored to have a 1st round grade on. No worries they can get a good player at 26.
 

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OG: Avila, Torrence, Schmidt
Edge: McDonald, Hall, FAU
SS: Branch
TE: Washington

Dallas would probably take Avila who their rumored to have a 1st round grade on. No worries they can get a good player at 26.
McDonald or Washington > Avila at 26
 
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