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[Typhus]

I don't like Greenway at all as a 3-4 linebacker. I am thinking he is there when Dallas picks and they should pass. Not a big fan of a strong side backer whose major knock is that he doesn't take on blockers well. Sounds like DJ. Not to mention the fact that he lacked definition at the combine and was pretty terrible in the 40 and bench. I see him as a Derrick Brooks Cover 2 weakside type LB.

Lawson has huge upside, but has to go through a position change. He might be looking lost out there for a bit although he might have the better overall career by the time it is said and done.

You could probably just plug Carpenter in at the strong side LB position in camp and forget about it for the next 10 years.

Agree 100%.
The question is, if Carpenter is indeed the target on D-Day, will BP and JJ risk moving down from 18 to grap carpenter near the bottom of the first, or just pull the trigger and take the sure deal at 18, despite the reach.

 

[proline]

The problem with Lawson is that he is too light for an NFL DE, and he has never PROVEN that he can play LB at a high level. He didn't start his two years at LB in college, except for 2 two games. So he's a tweener, and will have to either go to a team that can make use of him in that way (i.e. 3rd down pass rush specialist), or to a team that will give him the time to develop into (hopefully) a solid NFL LB.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

With talk of a possible trade-down, Dallas may be targeting a guy like Winston Justice, T, USC (6-6, 311, Junior). That' because we have no RT on the roster and the pickings in free agency are slim. And if for some reason Flo's come-back comes with mixed reviews, a guy like Jatice - someone who can play both OT positions - will be invaluable.

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[InmanRoshi]

I think we'll probably trade back and get one of those tweeners. I would like to sign McGinnest to a 2 year contract to play immediately and help ease the draft pick into the lineup. McGinnest would make a great mentor the draft pick and Ware. It would be good mix of youth and experience.

 

[junk]

Agree 100%.
The question is, if Carpenter is indeed the target on D-Day, will BP and JJ risk moving down from 18 to grap carpenter near the bottom of the first, or just pull the trigger and take the sure deal at 18, despite the reach.

As much as I love Carpenter, I probably would try to move back if someone was willing to move up. Swap for Denver's 29 and their second?

There are some other prospects as well that could probably fill the role. Wimbley, Lawson, Mark Anderson, Stanley McClover.

As InmanRoshi said, if going with any of those guys, I'd want a vet in there to ease the transition though.

I think Carpenter could step in during camp and handle the role, but the depth at OLB is woefully thin.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

In a year when we are looking for LBers in the draft, I have a comment about one of them.

I know we are now a 3-4 team and Bill is looking for big LBers, but I can tell you with certainty, that there aren't many LBers in this draft better than Demeco Ryans out of Bama.

I wish he was a little bigger, because he is a guy who is ALWAYS in the right place, is ALWAYS coming up with the big hit, understands the game and is a GREAT character guy/ team leader.

He has so many qualities, some team is going to get themselves a real good football player in the latter part of round one.

In my opinion he is a bigger, more athletic version of Dat.

 

[ddh33]

Wimbley is my guy, at this point. I just like him better than the other tweeners in this draft. I wish Lawson were a little thicker.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Carpenter may be avail in the 2nd rd?

 

[Typhus]

Carpenter may be avail in the 2nd rd?

Possibly, but I doubt it.
I would say as of right now, yes, since he was unable to work out at the combine due to him still recovering from the ankle injury, but he will still get a private workout in Ohio, so his stock should escalate the closer we get to the draft, barring any set backs with his ankle he should end up lower first round, 20-28.

 

[Typhus]

As much as I love Carpenter, I probably would try to move back if someone was willing to move up. Swap for Denver's 29 and their second?

There are some other prospects as well that could probably fill the role. Wimbley, Lawson, Mark Anderson, Stanley McClover.

As InmanRoshi said, if going with any of those guys, I'd want a vet in there to ease the transition though.

I think Carpenter could step in during camp and handle the role, but the depth at OLB is woefully thin.

Since we are just dreaming here,, how about our first and Ellis for both of Denvers firsts... Hey,, it could happen........ ray2:

 

[neosapien23]

Since we are just dreaming here,, how about our first and Ellis for both of Denvers firsts... Hey,, it could happen........ ray2:

We could probably pull that trade off if Dallas throws in their second round pick and Denver throws in their 4th. They are going to need a DE now that Pryce is gone and Ellis has an extremey affordable contract. They might want our higher number 1 to draft either Jackson or Holmes.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I think we'll probably trade back and get one of those tweeners. I would like to sign McGinnest to a 2 year contract to play immediately and help ease the draft pick into the lineup. McGinnest would make a great mentor the draft pick and Ware. It would be good mix of youth and experience.

I know McGuinnest is an older player... but the guy is still solid. 2 years works for me. Think of what he could do for Ware(opportunities) and what Ware can do for McGuinnest(take a few years of his playing ability by creating opps for him....

 

[Typhus]

We could probably pull that trade off if Dallas throws in their second round pick and Denver throws in their 4th. They are going to need a DE now that Pryce is gone and Ellis has an extremey affordable contract. They might want our higher number 1 to draft either Jackson or Holmes.

A 2nd is a pretty high price, but I would do a 3rd for their fourth in that deal no problem.