Let’s not overrate Rams loss on run D

[NorthwestDallas40]

Many posters keep citing the Rams loss as a reason to get bigger run stuffers on the DL. While it is always embarrassing to give up 270 yards rushing in a playoff game, everything points to that game being an outlier. In 2018, our run defense was 5th overall in the league. We were fourth in the league in average yards per rush (3.8). We shut down great running teams like NO and SEA. We had two bad games: IND and LAR. As has been reported, the LAR collapse had more to do with being out coached than poor effort or play by our DTs. When you watch the video, there are gaping holes because DTs are out of position, not necessarily because they were being blown off the ball. And we cannot discount that we just got a bad “field matchup.” We are built for speed and penetration on turf. Put same DL on that soft, sloppy grass field and they are not as quick and disruptive.

All this is to say that... do not be surprised or disappointed when in the 2nd or 3rd round we go with an undersized 3T like Gerald Willis, Zach Allen, Jaylon Ferguson, LJ Collier, rather than a 320+ pound run stuffer. And if we do, we’ll be fine.

 

[Fredbeard]

Why do people keep saying the rams game was some fluke anomaly? Except for the 2016
Season , the cowboys have given up over 200 yards rushing at least once a year going as far back as 2013.the guy whose scheme was exploited in the rams game is still coaching for the cowboys.

 

[JBS]

Why do people keep saying the rams game was some fluke anomaly? Except for the 2016
Season , the cowboys have given up over 200 yards rushing at least once a year going as far back as 2013

Does once a year mean anything? No it doesn't..

 

[Proof]

Does once a year mean anything? No it doesn't..

Lol. Seriously. What a weird take

 

[Fredbeard]

Does once a year mean anything? No it doesn't..

Really? Because no other team has allowed it so often besides the cowboys . look it up if you don't believe me.op claimed the rams game is a freak anomaly and responded that it wasnt.

 

[visionary]

Many posters keep citing the Rams loss as a reason to get bigger run stuffers on the DL. While it is always embarrassing to give up 270 yards rushing in a playoff game, everything points to that game being an outlier. In 2018, our run defense was 5th overall in the league. We were fourth in the league in average yards per rush (3.8). We shut down great running teams like NO and SEA. We had two bad games: IND and LAR. As has been reported, the LAR collapse had more to do with being out coached than poor effort or play by our DTs. When you watch the video, there are gaping holes because DTs are out of position, not necessarily because they were being blown off the ball. And we cannot discount that we just got a bad “field matchup.” We are built for speed and penetration on turf. Put same DL on that soft, sloppy grass field and they are not as quick and disruptive.

All this is to say that... do not be surprised or disappointed when in the 2nd or 3rd round we go with an undersized 3T like Gerald Willis, Zach Allen, Jaylon Ferguson, LJ Collier, rather than a 320+ pound run stuffer. And if we do, we’ll be fine.

So your approach is: when truth slaps you in the face, just close your eyes tighter and hope you're dreaming?

We have a stupid defensive philosophy that ignores 1T DT and top end safeties and continuing that approach will mean the same results

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Gonna have days like that. Sea had the #1 rush team in the league and we curb stomped them.

 

[morasp]

run stuffers can be found late in draft, the question is do they think they need to use a roster spot on one.

 

[paladin]

Does once a year mean anything? No it doesn't..

When it's the last game, against the team that you will need to somehow defeat eventually, it's importance increases

 

[Silly]

The point is Dallas is getting their *** kicked in playoff games. If they are going to win they need to beef up the Dline. Regular season only wins a ticket to the playoffs.

 

[John813]

It wasn't so much the players as it was the Rams line knowing where said defensive linemen would be after the snap . Easy to block someone when you know which gap they are going in

 

[ghst187]

the LAR collapse had more to do with being out coached than poor effort or play by our DTs. .

This!
which is pretty typical for JG's teams....

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Many posters keep citing the Rams loss as a reason to get bigger run stuffers on the DL. While it is always embarrassing to give up 270 yards rushing in a playoff game, everything points to that game being an outlier. In 2018, our run defense was 5th overall in the league. We were fourth in the league in average yards per rush (3.8). We shut down great running teams like NO and SEA. We had two bad games: IND and LAR. As has been reported, the LAR collapse had more to do with being out coached than poor effort or play by our DTs. When you watch the video, there are gaping holes because DTs are out of position, not necessarily because they were being blown off the ball. And we cannot discount that we just got a bad “field matchup.” We are built for speed and penetration on turf. Put same DL on that soft, sloppy grass field and they are not as quick and disruptive.

All this is to say that... do not be surprised or disappointed when in the 2nd or 3rd round we go with an undersized 3T like Gerald Willis, Zach Allen, Jaylon Ferguson, LJ Collier, rather than a 320+ pound run stuffer. And if we do, we’ll be fine.

This is perfect timing. Don't go look over in the DL 2018 vs 2019 thread

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Lol. Seriously. What a weird take

Very weird take lmao.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

The point is Dallas is getting their *** kicked in playoff games. If they are going to win they need to beef up the Dline. Regular season only wins a ticket to the playoffs.

In our last four playoff games qe've allowed less than 100 rushing yards in 3 of them.
The only outlier? Rams game in which two of our starters had torn labrums.

 

[Sarge]

It wasn't so much the players as it was the Rams line knowing where said defensive linemen would be after the snap . Easy to block someone when you know which gap they are going in

They really outcoached the crap out of us. It’s more on the coaches than the players in that game.

 

[ItzKelz]

Guess I should create more topics lol. The Rams basically copied what the Colts did to us; which is great coaching. If Kris and company had copied what the rest of the NFL had did to the Rams offense during the second half of the season we likely would have won. DT's not a problem at all; if anything it was LVE not getting to his spots....but IMO you can't be in the game and make no changes when a team's back up over weight RB is slicing and dicing through the D like Edward Scissor Hands in his prime.

 

[Fredbeard]

In our last four playoff games qe've allowed less than 100 rushing yards in 3 of them.
The only outlier? Rams game in which two of our starters had torn labrums.

That's not true at all. The Packers rushed for over a hundred yards in their win over the cowboys in the 2014 divisional round playoff game . the Lions rushed for 90 yards and over 4 yards a carry in the wild card game the week before that. Th Montgomery rushed for over 80 yards and averaged over five yards a carry in the. Packers2016 divisional round game against the cowboys . the packers didn't need to run much though because aaron Rodgers threw for over 350 yards.

 

[CWR]

I think there is some truth in both sides.

Our run defense as whole was very good.

But TWO games last year in particular we were gashed. Both games we played against mountains for olines.

We need some beef to come in for those type games/situations. We dont have to draft necessarily at the top for that beef, but we need them on the roster imo.

 

[Brooksey]

Many posters keep citing the Rams loss as a reason to get bigger run stuffers on the DL. While it is always embarrassing to give up 270 yards rushing in a playoff game, everything points to that game being an outlier. In 2018, our run defense was 5th overall in the league. We were fourth in the league in average yards per rush (3.8). We shut down great running teams like NO and SEA. We had two bad games: IND and LAR. As has been reported, the LAR collapse had more to do with being out coached than poor effort or play by our DTs. When you watch the video, there are gaping holes because DTs are out of position, not necessarily because they were being blown off the ball. And we cannot discount that we just got a bad “field matchup.” We are built for speed and penetration on turf. Put same DL on that soft, sloppy grass field and they are not as quick and disruptive.

All this is to say that... do not be surprised or disappointed when in the 2nd or 3rd round we go with an undersized 3T like Gerald Willis, Zach Allen, Jaylon Ferguson, LJ Collier, rather than a 320+ pound run stuffer. And if we do, we’ll be fine.

The better offensive lines exploited our weakness. Rams and Colts put on a clinic, A woods, Crawford abused. Their guards were into our LB's so fast they were irrelevant. It was combo of being out coached and outmanned at the point of attack. NO had a great offense using speed, we can stop that. Seattle did it with attempts. Rams and Colts shoved it down our throats with power and there wasn't a damn thing we could do about it.