McCarthy's Play Calling

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I have noticed a trend with McCarthy and his play calling.

If you look at the Giants, it is pretty obvious that they came out wanting to get Turpin more involved in the offense including getting him the ball 3 straight plays which ended in an FG. Then Turpin basically became an afterthought, and McCarthy went back to calling his normal offense making no effort to involve Turpin again for over 2 quarters.

There have been quite a few times when Dallas comes out and the first drive is very effective, and you can tell they have a purpose to get Rico involved or Lamb a few easy catches, but they also use those scripted plays to attack defenses weaknesses, however, he never really uses that information or build on it throughout the game, he just reverts back to calling the same group of plays every week.

There has been quite a bit of talk about Jerry possibly bringing McCarthy back, with the QB and taking a shot at Jerry saying on his terms, but if those terms don't include a new offensive coordinator who calls the plays we are in for a lot of grief as fans.
 

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I have noticed a trend with McCarthy and his play calling.

If you look at the Giants, it is pretty obvious that they came out wanting to get Turpin more involved in the offense including getting him the ball 3 straight plays which ended in an FG. Then Turpin basically became an afterthought, and McCarthy went back to calling his normal offense making no effort to involve Turpin again for over 2 quarters.

There have been quite a few times when Dallas comes out and the first drive is very effective, and you can tell they have a purpose to get Rico involved or Lamb a few easy catches, but they also use those scripted plays to attack defenses weaknesses, however, he never really uses that information or build on it throughout the game, he just reverts back to calling the same group of plays every week.

There has been quite a bit of talk about Jerry possibly bringing McCarthy back, with the QB and taking a shot at Jerry saying on his terms, but if those terms don't include a new offensive coordinator who calls the plays we are in for a lot of grief as fans.
HIs play calling has been bad all year period, also forced it to Wingo. Yes its well-known fact from my posts he ICES his players, no real rhyme , rhythm or reasoning in his play calls IE no startgy ..just going through the paces off jhis sheet IMHO

he's the real reason our running game is bad it's obvious he messed up rico's career could have been a lot better last year and this year and I bet if they didn't utilize hunter and Rico properly last year Ezekiel Elliott would not be here right now..
 

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Albeit the personality conflicts that McCarthy had with Aaron Rogers, McCarthy's offense worked in Green Bay. They had the players to make it work... I'm not saying McCarthy is a bad play caller. I think it's more about our players not being able to execute. This is Jerry's doing. if McCarthy was as bad as some make him out to be, we wouldn't have been 12-5 for 3 back to back seasons.
 

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When your offensive talent is limited so is your ability to call plays. Not saying McCarthy is a perfect offensive genius, but I do think he gets too much blame gets thrown his way for the failures on the offensive side of the football. Turpin as the OP mentioned is a great example. Excellent big play ability, seems to be trending up as a receiver overall, but unfortunately there are only so many ways to get the football in his hands. He is under sized, and seems to run a limited route tree. Unless you're going to turn your offense into a gimmick fest with screens and jet sweeps (which the Cowboys already do a decent amount of) its hard to design plays to get him the football more than a few times per game.

The Cowboys truly lack the presence of a legitimate #2 WR to go with Lamb. Good offenses can dictate coverages and alignments defenses can play against them. The Cowboys simply do not have the luxury of having the talent on the field to scheme players open as some other teams do. Its why paying a guy like Lamb isn't a bad idea, but if you're too strapped for cash to the point you have to make the offense revolve around one skill player its a horrible idea.

No scheme in the world works when 3/5ths of your OL is getting beat regularly, and no scheme works with one above average receiving threat....especially when you fall behind on the scoreboard.
 

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You know the Bungles will be keying in on Turpin, and this will not stop Rush from forcing the ball either...this is how we roll around here
 

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Albeit the personality conflicts that McCarthy had with Aaron Rogers, McCarthy's offense worked in Green Bay. They had the players to make it work... I'm not saying McCarthy is a bad play caller. I think it's more about our players not being able to execute. This is Jerry's doing. if McCarthy was as bad as some make him out to be, we wouldn't have been 12-5 for 3 back to back seasons.
diosagree his playcalling is dydsfuctional no he ICES his players, no real rhyme , rhythm or reasoning in his play calls IE no startgy ..just going through the paces off jhis sheet IMHO

that was the garett issue at times it REQUIRES eleite players and max exctuion or it fails..oither teams adjust to its talent and finds schems and gameplan to overcome talent.. You trying to tell me that what you've seen from Turpin can't be repeated with more touches and yet he doesn't do it they like get it all done in like 3 plays and then boom he's a afterthought just like the original poster saying we all see it how about Rico last year in my opinion from what I saw Rico would have been better to take over Ezekiel elliott's old play calls and let Tony stay in the same place and it would've been a much more efficient run game and because of the lack of use from hunter Enrico somehow Jerry got the idea that we needed Ezekiel Elliott back here he wouldn't be back here and then it comes into this year doing the same nonsense saying we need a running back by committee and even if he thought that in his mind after the Pittsburgh game are you trying to tell me that the lack of talent is why no interpret and other players are not getting more targets there's not any real flow to the way they call the plays?

He literally ices his own players he he sees him getting hot and then he sits him down for about two quarters literally Rico should have been getting 20 to 25 carries every game without little attention to whether he can get hurt or not who cares if he got hurt then you would use the other guys this was a complete misuse of the talent we had here not the lack of talent we may not have an elite back here but I see other teams like Pittsburgh and Kansas City were the top teams in the in the AFC they don't have backs better than Rico they're pretty much the same what do they do they just feed them all game and then something breaks you can't just one game give him 20 in the next game like under 10 he was averaging only 10 carries the first seven games of the year is in this nonsense that is on 100% the head coach and the offensive coordinator and they both have the same name...

So in my opinion he's a terrible play caller when it comes to like in game flow like he doesn't feel like where it's going he doesn't forecast how he can probably set up the defense with some eye candy at the beginning and then take those same plays and make him double moves make it go another direction with a different player he literally does not look like he has a grasp of actually how to battle the defensive coordinator in a game with mental gymnastics...

Most offensive coordinators the really good ones the great ones they set up a defense by going with the scripted plays and when the scripted plays are over they move into figuring out what was working in those first two drives and then they expand on them then they see how the defense reacts to certain plays and then they come back in the third and fourth quarter and totally set you up for big plays because now the defense gets sucked up the wrong defense is called and then bam that's when the big plays happened the big plays here are not just because of lack of talent it is lack of a offensive coordinator that has any sense of how to battle a defensive coordinator..
 

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...lacks creatvity.
I don't think he lacks it I think he's unaware that he needs to be I don't think he understands what the defense is doing and has a plan to counter with the defense is doing and set the defense up early in the game to see what they will try out against a certain lineup and scheme and then come back later and totally exploit it he doesn't know how to really play the game like chess like literally looking 3 moves ahead and figuring out how to beat the defensive coordinator not the talent versus the talent lined up over each other it is trying to beat the coordinator in a mental game of here's what I'm gonna show you early and I'm gonna see how you react and then if you bit on some of these plays early we're gonna come back and it's gonna look the same but it's gonna have a whole different wrinkle to it later on..


I just don't think he's capable I think he just calls it off the sheet and expects the best talent on the field to execute it and when it doesn't happen he has no clue he just like keeps calling plays all game off the sheet but not really with any anticipation. I know it doesn't make sense but that sheet's full of plays called first down second down third down situational football goal line and he just called it up the sheet according to that versus what's actually happening in that game... That's my opinion I could be wrong I'm no expert but I know what I've been seeing I gave him an excuse last year because it was a brand new offense and it took awhile to get going this year it's all on him that whole conservative approach the first seven or eight games not figuring out how to use Rico properly not using Turpin as a weapon this is all on him waiting until all our players are hurt to start like running the football with commitment and then calling plays to help the quarterback he literally just says hey dak and lamb go out and win us the game that that that seems to be his mantra then now that they're gone he's being forced to be more creative it still ain't great but there's a reason our run game looks better because he's actually using it@!@@#
 

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I admittedly don’t know enough to comment properly, but it does very much seem as if the schemes are dated, simple and predictable…and has been that way for quite some time.

I mean there are times when it feels as though the defense knows exactly what’s coming.

Was worse under Garrett though.

Not trying to start trouble but maybe the OC is limited by the capability of the QB. I really couldn’t know.
 

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I have noticed a trend with McCarthy and his play calling.

If you look at the Giants, it is pretty obvious that they came out wanting to get Turpin more involved in the offense including getting him the ball 3 straight plays which ended in an FG. Then Turpin basically became an afterthought, and McCarthy went back to calling his normal offense making no effort to involve Turpin again for over 2 quarters.

There have been quite a few times when Dallas comes out and the first drive is very effective, and you can tell they have a purpose to get Rico involved or Lamb a few easy catches, but they also use those scripted plays to attack defenses weaknesses, however, he never really uses that information or build on it throughout the game, he just reverts back to calling the same group of plays every week.

There has been quite a bit of talk about Jerry possibly bringing McCarthy back, with the QB and taking a shot at Jerry saying on his terms, but if those terms don't include a new offensive coordinator who calls the plays we are in for a lot of grief as fans.
playing against lesser teams and defenses helps your offensive play calling and makes you look better than you really are. Commanders are 21st and Giants are a mirage 15th. both are bottom of the league in run defense, which allows other teams to run against them. teams choose to run, given the option and not go the passing route....
 

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playing against lesser teams and defenses helps your offensive play calling and makes you look better than you really are. Commanders are 21st and Giants are a mirage 15th. both are bottom of the league in run defense, which allows other teams to run against them. teams choose to run, given the option and not go the passing route....
It isn't a new trend with the difference between the scripted plays and the rest of the play calling throughout the game.
 

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Turpin should be getting way more snaps, even if he just sprints past the safeties to open it up underneath for the other receivers. And the occasional slant would be good too, as he could be quite effective in the slot.

I don't think he's a gifted receiver in terms of hands, but he would be the best downfield threat. You have to respect that speed.

I bet other OCs would find ways to get him on the field and catch a few balls per game, or at least be a downfield threat.
 

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I have noticed a trend with McCarthy and his play calling.

If you look at the Giants, it is pretty obvious that they came out wanting to get Turpin more involved in the offense including getting him the ball 3 straight plays which ended in an FG. Then Turpin basically became an afterthought, and McCarthy went back to calling his normal offense making no effort to involve Turpin again for over 2 quarters.

There have been quite a few times when Dallas comes out and the first drive is very effective, and you can tell they have a purpose to get Rico involved or Lamb a few easy catches, but they also use those scripted plays to attack defenses weaknesses, however, he never really uses that information or build on it throughout the game, he just reverts back to calling the same group of plays every week.

There has been quite a bit of talk about Jerry possibly bringing McCarthy back, with the QB and taking a shot at Jerry saying on his terms, but if those terms don't include a new offensive coordinator who calls the plays we are in for a lot of grief as fans.
I think it was the Saints game, I remember being similar. On the first drive the Cowboys marched down the field with short passes, and Brady was commenting about the gameplan (with no faith in the running game or long pass-blocking) being about spreading the ball around on short passes. That worked great down the field ('til a Guyton penalty ended the drive with a FG). But after that scripted drive the playcalling became rather ineffective.
 

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I've got to admit, MM's play calling really did seem somewhat overly ineffective last season. :huh:
Even if MM stays with the team, another OC might add something beneficial to our offense! :grin:
 
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Turpin should be getting way more snaps, even if he just sprints past the safeties to open it up underneath for the other receivers. And the occasional slant would be good too, as he could be quite effective in the slot.

I don't think he's a gifted receiver in terms of hands, but he would be the best downfield threat. You have to respect that speed.

I bet other OCs would find ways to get him on the field and catch a few balls per game, or at least be a downfield threat.
The issue is there have been plenty of small speedy guys to enter the league, and very few have succeeded. A guy like Turpin in order to go get deep balls needs to be someone who creates space between him and the safety and unless its bum back there or they just get completely fooled thats tough to do, especially if you dont have a great deep ball thrower who can hit him in stride. No QB on the Cowboys roster, Dak included plays to that strength. Dak has been a pretty good deep ball guy but he also throws a high floater that allows guys to go get the ball, and that simply isnt Turpins game. Unless there is a significant matchup issue I just dont see D coordinators being all that worried about Turpin getting deep...at least to the point where hes going to actually open up routes underneath.

Guys like Jameson Williams and Xavier Worthy are both just as explosive as Turpin, but are 3-4 inches taller, 1st round talents, and have some of the best offensive minds calling plays and are only averaging about 1 touch per game more than Turpin is right now.

All around the league the guys getting heavily targeted are bigger bodies and elite level route runners. I'm just not seeing a Turpin comparison around the league that teams are getting the ball to more efficiently than the Cowboys are Turpin.
 
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