Michael Thomas? Deandre Hopkins? Only Derrick Henry makes a huge splash with us

[Reid1boys]

Si obviously every big name player that might be available for trade is somehow always linked to the Cowboys.

Didnt we get Cooks? Wasnt he the guy we wanted last year? Didnt Tolbert have an amazing camp? I dont buy it. The same issue ultimately leads back to one place.... QB. Dont tell me Cooks all of the sudden stinks.... we simply dont use him. So what good would Thomas or Hopkins do? All of the sudden our offense moves up a notch.

We are what we are. We are capable of beating anyone.... yea, I said it. We can beat anyone, just like a boatload of teams could beat us.


Look at this league. Niners were "Crowned," as they say, then got slapped by two very avg teams in back to back weeks. The Bills crush the dolphins and then lose to the Jets and Pats. The Dolphins crush Denver and get smacked by the Bills and Eagles.

The Eagles barely escape Washington and lose to the Jets.

Only the Chiefs I dont mention. I dont think they are that great.... but they are now the Pats. They have Mahomes, and until that changes, they are THE BEST TEAM in the nfl.

But...as far as offensive free agents... Only Derrick Henry makes a huge splash with us.

 

[blueblood70]

Si obviously every big name player that might be available for trade is somehow always linked to the Cowboys.

Didnt we get Cooks? Wasnt he the guy we wanted last year? Didnt Tolbert have an amazing camp? I dont buy it. The same issue ultimately leads back to one place.... QB. Dont tell me Cooks all of the sudden stinks.... we simply dont use him. So what good would Thomas or Hopkins do? All of the sudden our offense moves up a notch.

We are what we are. We are capable of beating anyone.... yea, I said it. We can beat anyone, just like a boatload of teams could beat us.


Look at this league. Niners were "Crowned," as they say, then got slapped by two very avg teams in back to back weeks. The Bills crush the dolphins and then lose to the Jets and Pats. The Dolphins crush Denver and get smacked by the Bills and Eagles.

The Eagles barely escape Washington and lose to the Jets.

Only the Chiefs I dont mention. I dont think they are that great.... but they are now the Pats. They have Mahomes, and until that changes, they are THE BEST TEAM in the nfl.

But...as far as offensive free agents... Only Derrick Henry makes a huge splash with us.

good try but it does not lead back to the qb, it leads to the scheme and the play calling. you know some of you just really have to get off the qb hate train, he doiesnt have choice always to where he goes ifit's designed to go to somebody else ie #1 read is predetermined, if read 1 is covered then 2 and by that time hes been rig for his life no time , no run suppiortm, one dicm,asianal footnball leads to these issues,.

how about you ask the offensive line where the execution is?? the OL coach rb coach play caller OC and umm anyone bu DAK.. not his fault this offense is stale, vanilla, and conservitive .. not his fault that OL is sad state right now..

that does lead me to the fact that we....led to some of that conservative play. they were throwing the football much..az loss missing 3 OL and no one getting open, sure all QB what ridiculous POV from haters..

Offense needs adjustments and its not the QB...

the only accurate thing you said in they do NOT need more WRs, by the coaches and the play calling. we do have players but this is worse than moores scheme, obvious its read 1 or take off because theres no time for much else.. most snaps the Wrs are NOT getting open, yet they force the ball to MG13. its been broken but not the qb for sure.

 

[diamonddelts]

Dak boy good!

 

[ESisback]

Si obviously every big name player that might be available for trade is somehow always linked to the Cowboys.

Didnt we get Cooks? Wasnt he the guy we wanted last year? Didnt Tolbert have an amazing camp? I dont buy it. The same issue ultimately leads back to one place.... QB. Dont tell me Cooks all of the sudden stinks.... we simply dont use him. So what good would Thomas or Hopkins do? All of the sudden our offense moves up a notch.

We are what we are. We are capable of beating anyone.... yea, I said it. We can beat anyone, just like a boatload of teams could beat us.


Look at this league. Niners were "Crowned," as they say, then got slapped by two very avg teams in back to back weeks. The Bills crush the dolphins and then lose to the Jets and Pats. The Dolphins crush Denver and get smacked by the Bills and Eagles.

The Eagles barely escape Washington and lose to the Jets.

Only the Chiefs I dont mention. I dont think they are that great.... but they are now the Pats. They have Mahomes, and until that changes, they are THE BEST TEAM in the nfl.

But...as far as offensive free agents... Only Derrick Henry makes a huge splash with us.

I think Henry would be huge, IF they adjust the scheme. More tempo, more motion, some field stretching plays, utilizing the TE’s more, power running in the RZ…

It’s SEEMS so simple. So why aren’t they doing it? What am I missing?

 

[blueblood70]

I think Henry would be huge, IF they adjust the scheme. More tempo, more motion, some field stretching plays, utilizing the TE’s more, power running in the RZ…

It’s SEEMS so simple. So why aren’t they doing it? What am I missing?

100% no need to use only the comes down to QB when its so far off base, its seen as hating. Yup..

 

[DallasEast]

In my opinion, Chris Olave would have better trade value than Michael Thomas and Olave is not going anywhere.

That said, the front office made it clear Deandre Hopkins is not on their shopping list. Mentioning Hopkins, regardless whether he would have zero impact on the offense, is like sticking a red hot poker in the middle of those folks' backs who wanted him during the offseason. It is kinda cruel if you ask me.

Personally, any big, did-not-see-it-coming, out-of-left-field trade should be an offensive lineman, preferably a left or right tackle upgrade. Realistically, the line needs more consistency with execution to create holes, whether it is for Tony Pollard or Derrick Henry (whose trade I doubt will ever happen). Improve from the trenches out may be the best trade deadline strategy.

 

[JW82]

I am always all for trading before the deadline to get the team over the top. But I don't think a skill player. Maybe a top 5 TE? I would be looking for a monster guard. Move Tyler to LT for the next decade and let old Tyron be the swing guy where maybe he can make it through a season. Can never have enough Corners and if you can get a difference making LB, OK. Of course if the skill player is a superstar, thats a different story, but thats not happening.

 

[MRV52]

Si obviously every big name player that might be available for trade is somehow always linked to the Cowboys.

Didnt we get Cooks? Wasnt he the guy we wanted last year? Didnt Tolbert have an amazing camp? I dont buy it. The same issue ultimately leads back to one place.... QB. Dont tell me Cooks all of the sudden stinks.... we simply dont use him. So what good would Thomas or Hopkins do? All of the sudden our offense moves up a notch.

We are what we are. We are capable of beating anyone.... yea, I said it. We can beat anyone, just like a boatload of teams could beat us.


Look at this league. Niners were "Crowned," as they say, then got slapped by two very avg teams in back to back weeks. The Bills crush the dolphins and then lose to the Jets and Pats. The Dolphins crush Denver and get smacked by the Bills and Eagles.

The Eagles barely escape Washington and lose to the Jets.

Only the Chiefs I dont mention. I dont think they are that great.... but they are now the Pats. They have Mahomes, and until that changes, they are THE BEST TEAM in the nfl.

But...as far as offensive free agents... Only Derrick Henry makes a huge splash with us.

It’s not Dak it’s the damn McCarthy system. Free Dak and let him play. Forget last year that was not a typical Dak year for INT’s. Let him throw the ball down field like he used to do. Then Cooks or Gallup will look different.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

A bash Dak thread disguised as a Derrick Henry thread lmao

 

[MyFairLady]

If we are going to make a huge splash can it at least be for someone who would not require a time machine. The names you listed are guys that good teams sign in the off season for reasonable short term deals.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

good try but it does not lead back to the qb, it leads to the scheme and the play calling. you know some of you just really have to get off the qb hate train, he doiesnt have choice always to where he goes ifit's designed to go to somebody else ie #1 read is predetermined, if read 1 is covered then 2 and by that time hes been rig for his life no time , no run suppiortm, one dicm,asianal footnball leads to these issues,.

how about you ask the offensive line where the execution is?? the OL coach rb coach play caller OC and umm anyone bu DAK.. not his fault this offense is stale, vanilla, and conservitive .. not his fault that OL is sad state right now..

that does lead me to the fact that we....led to some of that conservative play. they were throwing the football much..az loss missing 3 OL and no one getting open, sure all QB what ridiculous POV from haters..

Offense needs adjustments and its not the QB...

the only accurate thing you said in they do NOT need more WRs, by the coaches and the play calling. we do have players but this is worse than moores scheme, obvious its read 1 or take off because theres no time for much else.. most snaps the Wrs are NOT getting open, yet they force the ball to MG13. its been broken but not the qb for sure.

What in the entire....

 

[bsheeern]

Si obviously every big name player that might be available for trade is somehow always linked to the Cowboys.

Didnt we get Cooks? Wasnt he the guy we wanted last year? Didnt Tolbert have an amazing camp? I dont buy it. The same issue ultimately leads back to one place.... QB. Dont tell me Cooks all of the sudden stinks.... we simply dont use him. So what good would Thomas or Hopkins do? All of the sudden our offense moves up a notch.

We are what we are. We are capable of beating anyone.... yea, I said it. We can beat anyone, just like a boatload of teams could beat us.


Look at this league. Niners were "Crowned," as they say, then got slapped by two very avg teams in back to back weeks. The Bills crush the dolphins and then lose to the Jets and Pats. The Dolphins crush Denver and get smacked by the Bills and Eagles.

The Eagles barely escape Washington and lose to the Jets.

Only the Chiefs I dont mention. I dont think they are that great.... but they are now the Pats. They have Mahomes, and until that changes, they are THE BEST TEAM in the nfl.

But...as far as offensive free agents... Only Derrick Henry makes a huge splash with us.

So you say the "same issue" utimately leads to the QB but you just mentioned all these Contenders that have lost to all of these sub par teams. Is their issue the QB as well? Because if not, you're not using the same guidelines to to judge these teams.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Only Derrick Henry makes a huge splash with us.

Making a splash does no good. It won't fix the offense. Does adding Henry help you win the SF game? No.

Your giving up draft picks for a 30 year old RB that cost too much.

We already have a franchise RB. Why don't we fix the offense and start moving the ball again like we should.

 

[Reid1boys]

good try but it does not lead back to the qb, it leads to the scheme and the play calling. you know some of you just really have to get off the qb hate train, he doiesnt have choice always to where he goes ifit's designed to go to somebody else ie #1 read is predetermined, if read 1 is covered then 2 and by that time hes been rig for his life no time , no run suppiortm, one dicm,asianal footnball leads to these issues,.

how about you ask the offensive line where the execution is?? the OL coach rb coach play caller OC and umm anyone bu DAK.. not his fault this offense is stale, vanilla, and conservitive .. not his fault that OL is sad state right now..

that does lead me to the fact that we....led to some of that conservative play. they were throwing the football much..az loss missing 3 OL and no one getting open, sure all QB what ridiculous POV from haters..

Offense needs adjustments and its not the QB...

the only accurate thing you said in they do NOT need more WRs, by the coaches and the play calling. we do have players but this is worse than moores scheme, obvious its read 1 or take off because theres no time for much else.. most snaps the Wrs are NOT getting open, yet they force the ball to MG13. its been broken but not the qb for sure.

So after last season we wanted to blame Moore for Dak's failures. Play calling had no connection from one play to the next. Just out trying to score with no thought to the actual game flow. We said Dak didnt have the Wrs he needed.

We get rid of Moore and Mike takes over. We bring in Cooks. Gallup is now healthy. Pollard becomes the full time back everyone was clamoring for. The first 2 games everyone is singing Mikes praises. Dak isnt turning it over, the offense is much more balanced, we are just slinging it around...... then the defense didnt dominate. We go into Az and I agree with you about being way to conservative, but that doesnt change the fact Dak threw an absolute HORRIBLE pick late in the game in the endzone. Was that play calling?

I agree to some point about Mike. Too conservative, plays afraid to make mistakes. But he is calling the game that way for a reason, and that reason i we have Dak behind center and not Mahomes.

 

[Reid1boys]

So you say the "same issue" utimately leads to the QB but you just mentioned all these Contenders that have lost to all of these sub par teams. Is their issue the QB as well? Because if not, you're not using the same guidelines to to judge these teams.

IN the end, is there any doubt that the Bills, Bengals and Chiefs will battle for the trip to the SB? Teams lose games... that is part of the deal in the NFL.

The NFC is WIDE open IMO, and Dak absolutely could lead us there.... he COULD, but I have seen nothing to make me as confident as Id be if we had Burrow, Allen or Mahomes.

Ive seen Dak play lights out. Last year he was MVP level after the first 5 games. Then he disappeared.

 

[spice]

good try but it does not lead back to the qb, it leads to the scheme and the play calling. you know some of you just really have to get off the qb hate train, he doiesnt have choice always to where he goes ifit's designed to go to somebody else ie #1 read is predetermined, if read 1 is covered then 2 and by that time hes been rig for his life no time , no run suppiortm, one dicm,asianal footnball leads to these issues,.

how about you ask the offensive line where the execution is?? the OL coach rb coach play caller OC and umm anyone bu DAK.. not his fault this offense is stale, vanilla, and conservitive .. not his fault that OL is sad state right now..

that does lead me to the fact that we....led to some of that conservative play. they were throwing the football much..az loss missing 3 OL and no one getting open, sure all QB what ridiculous POV from haters..

Offense needs adjustments and its not the QB...

the only accurate thing you said in they do NOT need more WRs, by the coaches and the play calling. we do have players but this is worse than moores scheme, obvious its read 1 or take off because theres no time for much else.. most snaps the Wrs are NOT getting open, yet they force the ball to MG13. its been broken but not the qb for

You have defended the QB with great passion while stating that the rest of the team and coaches are basically crap. So my question is what amount of blame do you place on #4?

 

[Pass2Run]

good try but it does not lead back to the qb, it leads to the scheme and the play calling. you know some of you just really have to get off the qb hate train, he doiesnt have choice always to where he goes ifit's designed to go to somebody else ie #1 read is predetermined, if read 1 is covered then 2 and by that time hes been rig for his life no time , no run suppiortm, one dicm,asianal footnball leads to these issues,.

how about you ask the offensive line where the execution is?? the OL coach rb coach play caller OC and umm anyone bu DAK.. not his fault this offense is stale, vanilla, and conservitive .. not his fault that OL is sad state right now..

that does lead me to the fact that we....led to some of that conservative play. they were throwing the football much..az loss missing 3 OL and no one getting open, sure all QB what ridiculous POV from haters..

Offense needs adjustments and its not the QB...

the only accurate thing you said in they do NOT need more WRs, by the coaches and the play calling. we do have players but this is worse than moores scheme, obvious its read 1 or take off because theres no time for much else.. most snaps the Wrs are NOT getting open, yet they force the ball to MG13. its been broken but not the qb for sure.

It's the low-hanging fruit..They're not intellectually tall enough to feed off of anything else.

 

[bsheeern]

IN the end, is there any doubt that the Bills, Bengals and Chiefs will battle for the trip to the SB? Teams lose games... that is part of the deal in the NFL.

The NFC is WIDE open IMO, and Dak absolutely could lead us there.... he COULD, but I have seen nothing to make me as confident as Id be if we had Burrow, Allen or Mahomes.

Ive seen Dak play lights out. Last year he was MVP level after the first 5 games. Then he disappeared.

Dak was hurt last year in Game 1 and missed a month.

 

[Bing]

Well you look at players based only on how they might help the team as a fan. Jerry looks at them as numbers and what it cost to add them to the team. As far as running backs Jerry is paying close to 12 million dollars this year for that position. Expecting him to bring in Henry who even at week 8 will still be owed about 6 million from his 10 plus million 2023 salary. So do you really think Jerry is willing to pay 18 million dollars this year just for the running back position?

 

[Reid1boys]

In my opinion, Chris Olave would have better trade value than Michael Thomas and Olave is not going anywhere.

That said, the front office made it clear Deandre Hopkins is not on their shopping list. Mentioning Hopkins, regardless whether he would have zero impact on the offense, is like sticking a red hot poker in the middle of those folks' backs who wanted him during the offseason. It is kinda cruel if you ask me.

Personally, any big, did-not-see-it-coming, out-of-left-field trade should be an offensive lineman, preferably a left or right tackle upgrade. Realistically, the line needs more consistency with execution to create holes, whether it is for Tony Pollard or Derrick Henry (whose trade I doubt will ever happen). Improve from the trenches out may be the best trade deadline strategy.

Well I never said Hopkins or Henry was coming... IM just throwing names out their that are flying around in the media. Hopkins is on the downside of his career, Olave is a 2nd year player. The Saints would likely be ok getting rid of Thomas at this point, they are not trading Olave. By the way, did you read Olave was arrested Monday night?

Get a tackle? You ever notice how much better a line looks when you have a qb that can move around in the pocket and get rid of the ball quickly when need be?