Mocking for Super Bowls

Killerinstinct

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  • 26
    Calijah Kancey
    DL | Pittsburgh
    A
  • 58
    Siaki Ika
    DL | Baylor
    B
  • 90
    Tucker Kraft
    TE | South Dakota State
    A
  • 129
    DeMarvion Overshown
    LB | Texas
    A+
  • 161
    Israel Abanikanda
    RB | Pittsburgh
    A+
  • 169
    Trey Palmer
    WR | Nebraska
    A+
  • 212
    Ricky Stromberg
    IOL | Arkansas
    A+
  • 244
    Mohamed Ibrahim
    RB | Minnesota
 

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I like all the players here. Getting them where you got them would be iffy but I would definitely take this.
 

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  • 26
    Calijah Kancey
    DL | Pittsburgh
    A
  • 58
    Siaki Ika
    DL | Baylor
    B
  • 90
    Tucker Kraft
    TE | South Dakota State
    A
  • 129
    DeMarvion Overshown
    LB | Texas
    A+
  • 161
    Israel Abanikanda
    RB | Pittsburgh
    A+
  • 169
    Trey Palmer
    WR | Nebraska
    A+
  • 212
    Ricky Stromberg
    IOL | Arkansas
    A+
  • 244
    Mohamed Ibrahim
    RB | Minnesota
I like Ika at pick 56, Izzy at pick 161, Palmer at 269 and Ibrahim at 244… but not crazy about the rest.
 

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I like Kancey but I am not that big a chance taker. I fear your offensive lineman will not get the job done for the Cowboys. No it’s true I haven’t studied the guy if you to swap your first round picks for a
 

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I think we all agree, this is going to be an heavy offensive draft, if the picks fall right. Think they are fixing the defense in fa and just add a few depth guys in the draft. I'm expecting RB, WR, TE, OL all in play.
 

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1. Kancey - Pass rush from the 3-tech - lined up next to DLaw with Parsons picking a gap. Teamed with Osa on Obvious passing downs. Takes the Dline to another level.
2. Ika - The big 1-tech we have needed. Keeps the LB's clean. Allows Vander Esch to attack instead of being under attack. Helps create a lot of 3rd and longs where our pass rush and DB's can create a lot of turnovers.
3. Kraft - The TE we need in our run 1st new offense. Great blocker and pass catcher.. All around TE
4. Overshown - Barrs replacement. A better version.
5. Abanikanda - Teams up with Pollard to form a formidable 1-2 punch.
6. Palmer - Speedy receiver that gives our WR corp something we are lacking.
7. Stromberg - G and C depth.
8. Ibraham - Competition for Malik Davis. Loser replaces the often injured Dowdle on the practice squad
 

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    Calijah Kancey
    DL | Pittsburgh
    A
  • 58
    Siaki Ika
    DL | Baylor
    B
  • 90
    Tucker Kraft
    TE | South Dakota State
    A
  • 129
    DeMarvion Overshown
    LB | Texas
    A+
  • 161
    Israel Abanikanda
    RB | Pittsburgh
    A+
  • 169
    Trey Palmer
    WR | Nebraska
    A+
  • 212
    Ricky Stromberg
    IOL | Arkansas
    A+
  • 244
    Mohamed Ibrahim
    RB | Minnesota
Pass on Kancey.

Too much risk. Maybe great but maybe completely overwhelmed by NFL OLinemen. He is definitely not Aaron Donald.
 

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Pass on Kancey.

Too much risk. Maybe great but maybe completely overwhelmed by NFL OLinemen. He is definitely not Aaron Donald.
Is that the standard? If he's not Aaron Donald, he's not worth pick 26.

He's no Neville Gallimore. He's no Trysten Hill. Or the others we have been dealing with for decades.
 

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Is that the standard? If he's not Aaron Donald, he's not worth pick 26.

He's no Neville Gallimore. He's no Trysten Hill. Or the others we have been dealing with for decades.
Drafting is all about probabilities.

The probability of success is relatively low for this type of player.

The fact that Aaron Donald is great does not significantly change that probability.
 

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Your first and second round picks are going to be way gone before our picks come up.
 

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Drafting is all about probabilities.

The probability of success is relatively low for this type of player.

The fact that Aaron Donald is great does not significantly change that probability.
Your first and second round picks are going to be way gone before our picks come up.
One says he will be gone way before pick 26 and the other says low probability for success which would certainly indicate not even worthy of pick 26.

I suspect one of you is correct.(he will be gone before 26) but maybe team needs and wrong think on the part of a couple of GM's allows him to fall.

The assets that make him intriguing for me are the same ones that make him controversial for others.

He relies on quickness, agility, and hand technique. He is not the prototypical size.

I don't think he would be successfull in all systems but with DLaw on one side, Ika on the other, and Parsons moving around - opposing offensive coordinators would be pulling their hair out.
 

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One says he will be gone way before pick 26 and the other says low probability for success which would certainly indicate not even worthy of pick 26.

I suspect one of you is correct.(he will be gone before 26) but maybe team needs and wrong think on the part of a couple of GM's allows him to fall.

The assets that make him intriguing for me are the same ones that make him controversial for others.

He relies on quickness, agility, and hand technique. He is not the prototypical size.

I don't think he would be successfull in all systems but with DLaw on one side, Ika on the other, and Parsons moving around - opposing offensive coordinators would be pulling their hair out.
I posted a week before the draft last year that the Cowboys should draft Tyler Smith in the 1st. I said he was the best OL in the draft.

The other guy wants to draft a RB in the 1st round regardless of which other players are available at that pick...
 

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    Calijah Kancey
    DL | Pittsburgh
    A
  • 58
    Siaki Ika
    DL | Baylor
    B
  • 90
    Tucker Kraft
    TE | South Dakota State
    A
  • 129
    DeMarvion Overshown
    LB | Texas
    A+
  • 161
    Israel Abanikanda
    RB | Pittsburgh
    A+
  • 169
    Trey Palmer
    WR | Nebraska
    A+
  • 212
    Ricky Stromberg
    IOL | Arkansas
    A+
  • 244
    Mohamed Ibrahim
    RB | Minnesota
Like the Ika, Izzy and Palmer picks but Cancey at 26 would be a compete failure for me.

I’m not even sure I’d take him in the 2nd.
 

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I posted a week before the draft last year that the Cowboys should draft Tyler Smith in the 1st. I said he was the best OL in the draft.

The other guy wants to draft a RB in the 1st round regardless of which other players are available at that pick...
Who do you want this year?
 

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Who do you want this year?
Of the players likely available at #26, nobody stands out to me at this point.

I'm a huge fan of TE Michael Mayer but he'll be gone before #26.

TE Kincaid has the best hands in the draft and great ability to get open but he is a limited blocker.

CB Joey Porter would be a perfect fit for Dan Quinn but he'll likely be gone by #26. Banks likely available and might be a good option

DT is a top need but probably no good options at #26. More likely to take DT at #58.

OL might be BPA with multiple good options late 1st but there might be some good options in the 2nd also. B. Jones is favorite at this point but likely gone before #26.

WR has limited options. Either a very small WR or possibly Q. Johnson available at #26. I'm undecided about Johnson at this point.

Edge rusher might be BPA with a few players that have not been discussed much yet.

It seems like only 1 off-ball LB (D. Sanders) that might be worth a 1st but some draft media think he projects best to Edge rusher (3-4 OLB).

RB is a hot button topic this year. I'm not gung-ho to draft a RB in the 1st; However, the Cowboys are more dependent on the run game that most of the other teams that made the playoffs in 2022 with the exception of the 49ers.

Bijan Robinson is terrific but likely gone by #26 anyway. Gibbs is only 199 pounds. I would be fine with Gibbs in the 2nd but not in the first.
 

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lets see if they show any interest in Kancey,i am skeptical he meets our scouts cutoffs.
 

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Of the players likely available at #26, nobody stands out to me at this point.

I'm a huge fan of TE Michael Mayer but he'll be gone before #26.

TE Kincaid has the best hands in the draft and great ability to get open but he is a limited blocker.

CB Joey Porter would be a perfect fit for Dan Quinn but he'll likely be gone by #26. Banks likely available and might be a good option

DT is a top need but probably no good options at #26. More likely to take DT at #58.

OL might be BPA with multiple good options late 1st but there might be some good options in the 2nd also. B. Jones is favorite at this point but likely gone before #26.

WR has limited options. Either a very small WR or possibly Q. Johnson available at #26. I'm undecided about Johnson at this point.

Edge rusher might be BPA with a few players that have not been discussed much yet.

It seems like only 1 off-ball LB (D. Sanders) that might be worth a 1st but some draft media think he projects best to Edge rusher (3-4 OLB).

RB is a hot button topic this year. I'm not gung-ho to draft a RB in the 1st; However, the Cowboys are more dependent on the run game that most of the other teams that made the playoffs in 2022 with the exception of the 49ers.

Bijan Robinson is terrific but likely gone by #26 anyway. Gibbs is only 199 pounds. I would be fine with Gibbs in the 2nd but not in the first.
 

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Of the players likely available at #26, nobody stands out to me at this point.

I'm a huge fan of TE Michael Mayer but he'll be gone before #26. Mayer would be a fine addition but wouldn't have much immediat impact.

TE Kincaid has the best hands in the draft and great ability to get open but he is a limited blocker. Same

CB Joey Porter would be a perfect fit for Dan Quinn but he'll likely be gone by #26. Banks likely available and might be a good option Banks might be great down the line but again doesn't do much to help get the team over the hump.

DT is a top need but probably no good options at #26. More likely to take DT at #58. Need 2 DT's

OL might be BPA with multiple good options late 1st but there might be some good options in the 2nd also. B. Jones is favorite at this point but likely gone before #26. Will look great sitting on the bench.

WR has limited options. Either a very small WR or possibly Q. Johnson available at #26. I'm undecided about Johnson at this point. Pass on all of them

Edge rusher might be BPA with a few players that have not been discussed much yet. Again, will look great sitting on the bench.

It seems like only 1 off-ball LB (D. Sanders) that might be worth a 1st but some draft media think he projects best to Edge rusher (3-4 OLB). Sanders makes sense and would be my 2nd choice

RB is a hot button topic this year. I'm not gung-ho to draft a RB in the 1st; However, the Cowboys are more dependent on the run game that most of the other teams that made the playoffs in 2022 with the exception of the 49ers. I will hate it if we waste a 1st on a RB when there are so many good ones in the draft and FA

Bijan Robinson is terrific but likely gone by #26 anyway. Gibbs is only 199 pounds. I would be fine with Gibbs in the 2nd but not in the first.
 
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