My 2025 Resolution

birdwells1

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If someone talks to me about the Cowboys issues and don't start with Jerry and Stephen Jones I won't even engage in the conversation. This is my new years resolution. People on this board talking about Dak and Parsons and their contracts, before that it was Romo and Dez before that it was someone else but through it all it's been the Joneses.This franchise has been blessed with pro bowl level QBing for 15 years and only gave up a 4th round pick to get it but still can't manage to even get to an NFCCG.

The Joneses have been blessed because we're actually living in an idocracy, no one wants to look deeper, no context, just "this player sucks" or "this player makes too much money" and while y'all doing that the Joneses continue to have circles ran around the by Howie Roseman. Roseman has signed Hurts 50 mil apy, Brown 32 mil apy and Smith 25mil apy and they only count as a total 33 mil against the cap but Cowboys fans want talk about Dak's contract. Roseman's motivation is different than the Joneses, see he HAS to win or eventually he'll be fired so his player acquisition looks different than the Joneses who, whether 17-0 or 0-17 are guaranteed to keep their jobs.

I need the Cowboy community to stop picking the low hanging fruit and start pointing out the real issue, if not they'll be another good to great qb that comes in here and the same thing will happen. How do I know... because history has already repeated itself.
 

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If someone talks to me about the Cowboys issues and don't start with Jerry and Stephen Jones I won't even engage in the conversation. This is my new years resolution. People on this board talking about Dak and Parsons and their contracts, before that it was Romo and Dez before that it was someone else but through it all it's been the Joneses.This franchise has been blessed with pro bowl level QBing for 15 years and only gave up a 4th round pick to get it but still can't manage to even get to an NFCCG.

The Joneses have been blessed because we're actually living in an idocracy, no one wants to look deeper, no context, just "this player sucks" or "this player makes too much money" and while y'all doing that the Joneses continue to have circles ran around the by Howie Roseman. Roseman has signed Hurts 50 mil apy, Brown 32 mil apy and Smith 25mil apy and they only count as a total 33 mil against the cap but Cowboys fans want talk about Dak's contract. Roseman's motivation is different than the Joneses, see he HAS to win or eventually he'll be fired so his player acquisition looks different than the Joneses who, whether 17-0 or 0-17 are guaranteed to keep their jobs.

I need the Cowboy community to stop picking the low hanging fruit and start pointing out the real issue, if not they'll be another good to great qb that comes in here and the same thing will happen. How do I know... because history has already repeated itself.
The Eagles have employed an interesting strategy signing their players. Instead of paying them a lot of salary and signing bonus, they filled their contracts with option bonuses which are paid on an agreed date then they are treated like any other bonus, prorated over the next 4 years - or into voidable years. If you think about it, the Eagles are simply using option bonuses instead of agreeing to big salaries they will restructure into bonuses later anyway. What they did is remove the option of keeping the salary and taking the CAP hit vs paying a bonus that is pro-rated. In any case, if they keep all these players they will have a massive CAP problem in 2029 when $176 million in pro-rated bonuses will hit their CAP all at once. Most of that is in voidable years on player contracts. $97 million of that will be Jalen Hurts Imagine eating that much dead money if the players are no longer with the team!

I suspect Roseman already knows what he is going to do with every one of those contracts. It may involve cutting or trading some of these players before their bonuses are paid.
 

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If someone talks to me about the Cowboys issues and don't start with Jerry and Stephen Jones I won't even engage in the conversation. This is my new years resolution. People on this board talking about Dak and Parsons and their contracts, before that it was Romo and Dez before that it was someone else but through it all it's been the Joneses.This franchise has been blessed with pro bowl level QBing for 15 years and only gave up a 4th round pick to get it but still can't manage to even get to an NFCCG.

The Joneses have been blessed because we're actually living in an idocracy, no one wants to look deeper, no context, just "this player sucks" or "this player makes too much money" and while y'all doing that the Joneses continue to have circles ran around the by Howie Roseman. Roseman has signed Hurts 50 mil apy, Brown 32 mil apy and Smith 25mil apy and they only count as a total 33 mil against the cap but Cowboys fans want talk about Dak's contract. Roseman's motivation is different than the Joneses, see he HAS to win or eventually he'll be fired so his player acquisition looks different than the Joneses who, whether 17-0 or 0-17 are guaranteed to keep their jobs.

I need the Cowboy community to stop picking the low hanging fruit and start pointing out the real issue, if not they'll be another good to great qb that comes in here and the same thing will happen. How do I know... because history has already repeated itself.
That's fine, but in 2029, they're going to have cap hell!!!!!!! :muttley: :muttley: :muttley:
 

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The Eagles have employed an interesting strategy signing their players. Instead of paying them a lot of salary and signing bonus, they filled their contracts with option bonuses which are paid on an agreed date then they are treated like any other bonus, prorated over the next 4 years - or into voidable years. If you think about it, the Eagles are simply using option bonuses instead of agreeing to big salaries they will restructure into bonuses later anyway. What they did is remove the option of keeping the salary and taking the CAP hit vs paying a bonus that is pro-rated. In any case, if they keep all these players they will have a massive CAP problem in 2029 when $176 million in pro-rated bonuses will hit their CAP all at once. Most of that is in voidable years on player contracts. $97 million of that will be Jalen Hurts Imagine eating that much dead money if the players are no longer with the team!

I suspect Roseman already knows what he is going to do with every one of those contracts. It may involve cutting or trading some of these players before their bonuses are paid.
all that math, you have my head spinning!!!!!
 

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If someone talks to me about the Cowboys issues and don't start with Jerry and Stephen Jones I won't even engage in the conversation. This is my new years resolution. People on this board talking about Dak and Parsons and their contracts, before that it was Romo and Dez before that it was someone else but through it all it's been the Joneses.This franchise has been blessed with pro bowl level QBing for 15 years and only gave up a 4th round pick to get it but still can't manage to even get to an NFCCG.

The Joneses have been blessed because we're actually living in an idocracy, no one wants to look deeper, no context, just "this player sucks" or "this player makes too much money" and while y'all doing that the Joneses continue to have circles ran around the by Howie Roseman. Roseman has signed Hurts 50 mil apy, Brown 32 mil apy and Smith 25mil apy and they only count as a total 33 mil against the cap but Cowboys fans want talk about Dak's contract. Roseman's motivation is different than the Joneses, see he HAS to win or eventually he'll be fired so his player acquisition looks different than the Joneses who, whether 17-0 or 0-17 are guaranteed to keep their jobs.

I need the Cowboy community to stop picking the low hanging fruit and start pointing out the real issue, if not they'll be another good to great qb that comes in here and the same thing will happen. How do I know... because history has already repeated itself.
100% Unfortunately, too many fans will keep drinking the Jones' kool-aid and they will keep reaping the benefits.
 

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If someone talks to me about the Cowboys issues and don't start with Jerry and Stephen Jones I won't even engage in the conversation. This is my new years resolution. People on this board talking about Dak and Parsons and their contracts, before that it was Romo and Dez before that it was someone else but through it all it's been the Joneses.This franchise has been blessed with pro bowl level QBing for 15 years and only gave up a 4th round pick to get it but still can't manage to even get to an NFCCG.

The Joneses have been blessed because we're actually living in an idocracy, no one wants to look deeper, no context, just "this player sucks" or "this player makes too much money" and while y'all doing that the Joneses continue to have circles ran around the by Howie Roseman. Roseman has signed Hurts 50 mil apy, Brown 32 mil apy and Smith 25mil apy and they only count as a total 33 mil against the cap but Cowboys fans want talk about Dak's contract. Roseman's motivation is different than the Joneses, see he HAS to win or eventually he'll be fired so his player acquisition looks different than the Joneses who, whether 17-0 or 0-17 are guaranteed to keep their jobs.

I need the Cowboy community to stop picking the low hanging fruit and start pointing out the real issue, if not they'll be another good to great qb that comes in here and the same thing will happen. How do I know... because history has already repeated itself.
The thing is there's nothing anyone can do. Players and coaches will come and go. J&S will be here for a LONG time. So why even bother putting that caveat in there...it can simply go unsaid.

Now...if someone outright denies this problem...now you got yourself a legit ignore!
 
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The Eagles have employed an interesting strategy signing their players. Instead of paying them a lot of salary and signing bonus, they filled their contracts with option bonuses which are paid on an agreed date then they are treated like any other bonus, prorated over the next 4 years - or into voidable years. If you think about it, the Eagles are simply using option bonuses instead of agreeing to big salaries they will restructure into bonuses later anyway. What they did is remove the option of keeping the salary and taking the CAP hit vs paying a bonus that is pro-rated. In any case, if they keep all these players they will have a massive CAP problem in 2029 when $176 million in pro-rated bonuses will hit their CAP all at once. Most of that is in voidable years on player contracts. $97 million of that will be Jalen Hurts Imagine eating that much dead money if the players are no longer with the team!

I suspect Roseman already knows what he is going to do with every one of those contracts. It may involve cutting or trading some of these players before their bonuses are paid.
Their strategy is smart and it's working for them. One thing they've also had is luck. They're very lucky in regards to health. If Hurts, AJ or Saquon suffers a season/career ending injury, all that strategy starts to look a little less smart. I would take Roseman over Jerry 100 out of 100 times but even Roseman needs luck to succeed in a violent sport like football.
 

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Their strategy is smart and it's working for them. One thing they've also had is luck. They're very lucky in regards to health. If Hurts, AJ or Saquon suffers a season/career ending injury, all that strategy starts to look a little less smart. I would take Roseman over Jerry 100 out of 100 times but even Roseman needs luck to succeed in a violent sport like football.
To some degree yes, it seems smart on the surface, but putting $418 million in voidable years of contracts could come back to bite them. My guess is some of the Eagles players will not see the end of their contracts.
 

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Maybe it's just me, but shouldn't 'resolutions' be about personal goals and ambitions and not about things you can't influence or control? You can't control what people want to talk about on an internet message board.
I'm really talking about Cowboys fans that I meet in person but my resolution has to do with the fact that I'm no longer going to talk people that get their information from the Stephen A's, Skip, Shannon and any other debate show. I can control if I'm going to have a conversation with someone in person or if on a message board. In short, I'm not talking to idiots about the Cowboys issues.
 

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Their strategy is smart and it's working for them. One thing they've also had is luck. They're very lucky in regards to health. If Hurts, AJ or Saquon suffers a season/career ending injury, all that strategy starts to look a little less smart. I would take Roseman over Jerry 100 out of 100 times but even Roseman needs luck to succeed in a violent sport like football.
The more great players you have the less luck you need for instance the roster that the Cowboys put together this year they needed to go injury free just to make the playoffs.
 

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To some degree yes, it seems smart on the surface, but putting $418 million in voidable years of contracts could come back to bite them. My guess is some of the Eagles players will not see the end of their contracts.
When has the cap come back to "bite" them? We said that after their last super bowl run. This what I'm talking about, Roseman doesn't care about 2029 because if he doesn't win then that'll be someone else problem. The Bills GM said the same thing about trade up for Allen, he said he had to because if he didn't get a QB he'd be out of a job anyways.
 

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The Eagles have employed an interesting strategy signing their players. Instead of paying them a lot of salary and signing bonus, they filled their contracts with option bonuses which are paid on an agreed date then they are treated like any other bonus, prorated over the next 4 years - or into voidable years. If you think about it, the Eagles are simply using option bonuses instead of agreeing to big salaries they will restructure into bonuses later anyway. What they did is remove the option of keeping the salary and taking the CAP hit vs paying a bonus that is pro-rated. In any case, if they keep all these players they will have a massive CAP problem in 2029 when $176 million in pro-rated bonuses will hit their CAP all at once. Most of that is in voidable years on player contracts. $97 million of that will be Jalen Hurts Imagine eating that much dead money if the players are no longer with the team!

I suspect Roseman already knows what he is going to do with every one of those contracts. It may involve cutting or trading some of these players before their bonuses are paid.

Imagine having a FO with creativity
 

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If someone talks to me about the Cowboys issues and don't start with Jerry and Stephen Jones I won't even engage in the conversation. This is my new years resolution. People on this board talking about Dak and Parsons and their contracts, before that it was Romo and Dez before that it was someone else but through it all it's been the Joneses.This franchise has been blessed with pro bowl level QBing for 15 years and only gave up a 4th round pick to get it but still can't manage to even get to an NFCCG.

The Joneses have been blessed because we're actually living in an idocracy, no one wants to look deeper, no context, just "this player sucks" or "this player makes too much money" and while y'all doing that the Joneses continue to have circles ran around the by Howie Roseman. Roseman has signed Hurts 50 mil apy, Brown 32 mil apy and Smith 25mil apy and they only count as a total 33 mil against the cap but Cowboys fans want talk about Dak's contract. Roseman's motivation is different than the Joneses, see he HAS to win or eventually he'll be fired so his player acquisition looks different than the Joneses who, whether 17-0 or 0-17 are guaranteed to keep their jobs.

I need the Cowboy community to stop picking the low hanging fruit and start pointing out the real issue, if not they'll be another good to great qb that comes in here and the same thing will happen. How do I know... because history has already repeated itself.
1000% spot on.

We well never win anything of consequence if our GMs last name is Jones.
 

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They have "good" QBs making the NFC/AFC Championship games all the time. Dak was 2nd in MVP voting last year.....my bad ignore this post because you didn't mention the Joneses first so act like I didn't respond.
I get it sir. And you're not wrong about the Jones family. But I can't see that changing. Can you? So I try to concentrate on hoping for greatness from the head coach and QB of this team. GM, head coach, QB are the keys to winning in the NFL imo. We have a well below average GM. Which means we need greatness in our head coach and QB to offset the GM.
And I don't think MM and Dak will ever be put in the "great" category. It's brutal, I get it.
 
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