Neville Gallimore

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What are you thoughts on him?

He needs some work, but he has a non stop motor and tested extremely well at the combine
 

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I think his combine has boosted him up to be worthy of our pick.

You see the quickness and pass rush ability on the field and it showed up at the combine as well.


As of now I think I think CJ Henderson is what the Cowboys are hoping for but after that there are several directions they could go and I think Gallimore is high on that list.

You gotta take him over McKinney at this point too IMO.

Right now I got this as our potential picks.

1. Henderson

2. AJ Terrell

3. Gallimore

4. Delpit

5. Tie between McKinney and Blacklock.
 

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I think his combine has boosted him up to be worthy of our pick.

You see the quickness and pass rush ability on the field and it showed up at the combine as well.


As of now I think I think CJ Henderson is what the Cowboys are hoping for but after that there are several directions they could go and I think Gallimore is high on that list.

You gotta take him over McKinney at this point too IMO.

Right now I got this as our potential picks.

1. Henderson

2. AJ Terrell

3. Gallimore

4. Delpit

5. Tie between McKinney and Blacklock.
I like McKinney as a player. But I always thought of him as an early 2nd type guy.

Overall the DT's after Brown and Kinlaw tested well. This could be a stronger DT draft than I thought before the combine
 

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i like him.
not sure i like him at 17 tho...unless we get wiped out.
but his freaky 40 time for somebody that large...plus his impressive tape...def puts him on the radar.
i think it'll be Trevon Diggs,CB-Alabama,Delpit or Henderson.
wild-card...Gross-Matos,Penn St
 

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i like him.
not sure i like him at 17 tho...unless we get wiped out.
but his freaky 40 time for somebody that large...plus his impressive tape...def puts him on the radar.
i think it'll be Trevon Diggs,CB-Alabama,Delpit or Henderson.
wild-card...Gross-Matos,Penn St
I gave you a like until your last sentence. Don’t like that kid or pick at all.
 

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i like him.
not sure i like him at 17 tho...unless we get wiped out.
but his freaky 40 time for somebody that large...plus his impressive tape...def puts him on the radar.
i think it'll be Trevon Diggs,CB-Alabama,Delpit or Henderson.
wild-card...Gross-Matos,Penn St
He dominated at SR bowl
I don’t know about 17 but I’d sure like to have him
 

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Gallimore killed the 40 but sucked in the agility drills.

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/neville-gallimore?position=DT

Per Rotoworld, the traits that most correlate to success for sub-310 pound DTs are 3 cone and 40. This complicates Gallimore's evaluation, because one is very very good and one is very very bad in equal measure (97th percentile speed and 3rd percentile 3 cone).

https://www.rotoworld.com/article/combine-breakdown/which-combine-tests-matter-position?page=1

I still like Gallimore as a prospect, but combine that athletic profile with his lack of leverage (there's a couple snaps where he makes Maliek Collins look like Snacks Harrison) and I'm not touching him in the first round.

IMO, he is basically Trysten Hill if Trysten Hill tried hard and cared about football. Lots of potential there, but there's a ways to go to put it together.
 

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i like him.
not sure i like him at 17 tho...unless we get wiped out.
but his freaky 40 time for somebody that large...plus his impressive tape...def puts him on the radar.
i think it'll be Trevon Diggs,CB-Alabama,Delpit or Henderson.
wild-card...Gross-Matos,Penn St
Personally I would take him over every DB not named Okudah or Simmons
 

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I like Neville a lot...before he ran a fast 40 and possible bumped his draft stock up. I think there’s a 2nd tier of DT’s he belongs in and hopefully there is 1 available when we pick in the 2nd.

Neville OK
Blacklock TCU
Madubuike A&M
Davidson Auburn
Elliot Mizzu
Hamilton OSU
Davis Bama

Everyone will have their own varying opinions on that list, but I don’t see a big enough gap to even think about taking a DT not named Brown or Kinlaw before our 2nd rounder (*barring a trade back to 23 or later)
 

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I like Neville a lot...before he ran a fast 40 and possible bumped his draft stock up. I think there’s a 2nd tier of DT’s he belongs in and hopefully there is 1 available when we pick in the 2nd.

Neville OK
Blacklock TCU
Madubuike A&M
Davidson Auburn
Elliot Mizzu
Hamilton OSU
Davis Bama

Everyone will have their own varying opinions on that list, but I don’t see a big enough gap to even think about taking a DT not named Brown or Kinlaw before our 2nd rounder (*barring a trade back to 23 or later)
I think Gallimore, Madubuike and Blaylock will all be long gone before our 2nd. Gallimore might go top 20 now, and I think Madubuike and Blaylock should go anywhere from 25 to 40.

Even if Im right, DT could be a good round 2 possibility. Should be a couple 57 worthy guys there
 

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I like Neville a lot...before he ran a fast 40 and possible bumped his draft stock up. I think there’s a 2nd tier of DT’s he belongs in and hopefully there is 1 available when we pick in the 2nd.

Neville OK
Blacklock TCU
Madubuike A&M
Davidson Auburn
Elliot Mizzu
Hamilton OSU
Davis Bama

Everyone will have their own varying opinions on that list, but I don’t see a big enough gap to even think about taking a DT not named Brown or Kinlaw before our 2nd rounder (*barring a trade back to 23 or later)
i think you go Kinlaw at 17 and if not there go some other route S/CB/TE/WR. then circle back for Elliot or Hamilton in round 2/3
 

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IMO, he is basically Trysten Hill if Trysten Hill tried hard and cared about football. Lots of potential there, but there's a ways to go to put it together.

You could say that about any athletic DT.

Gallimore did put a lot of good stuff on tape too. Just go on youtube and watch him play vs other teams. He's quick off the ball and disruptive.
 

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You could say that about any athletic DT.

Gallimore did put a lot of good stuff on tape too. Just go on youtube and watch him play vs other teams. He's quick off the ball and disruptive.

I did, wrote a big scouting report on him in my draft thread. Actually, I had that sucker open writing a post-Combine mock draft, so let me just copy-paste from there.

Neville Gallimore

Another huge and freaky-athletic tackle. Bruce Feldman put him at #2 on his always-entertaining Freaks List, with Oklahoma claiming he can squat 800 and runs a 4.7 40 at 305. He also had the highest pass rush win rate of any DT in the Big 12 per PFF.

His lower body is just like a block, and he is FAST for his size. Not necessarily quick-twitch explosive, but you rarely see guys with NT size chase down plays and stunt as well as he does. He plays hard and you regularly see him getting in on plays downfield that he should have no business in.

Gallimore's technique is really raw through, as he has a habit of playing standing up and doesn't really have any moves. For a guy who squats 800, down-blocks sure wash him out easily, because he plays with no leverage. That can be coached, but the more worrying part to me is that he's almost too rocked-up and not very flexible. You don't see him get skinny and slip through gaps.

Despite his size, he looks like a 3 tech to me. 1T potential is there with his build and strength, but he's going to take some work first. Likewise, 3T isn't a sure bet either because he's not actually that good of a penetrator - he's the type that wants to go through you rather than by you.

The raw tools are freaky, and given how hard he plays, I think he'll keep working to fix his technical flaws. So there's a ton of upside with him, but also a lot of risk, and I don't think he's going to be a guy who's ready for a big role in year 1 either.

He's probably a 2nd round talent and a real ceiling-or-floor kind of pick, but I'm willing to bet on him for the same reason I'm not willing to bet on Davis.


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I think Gallimore, Madubuike and Blaylock will all be long gone before our 2nd. Gallimore might go top 20 now, and I think Madubuike and Blaylock should go anywhere from 25 to 40.

Even if Im right, DT could be a good round 2 possibility. Should be a couple 57 worthy guys there

Yeah I’d be perfectly ok if those 3 get over drafted because of the combine. I do like all 3 because of their potential, but don’t see game changing DT on tape for any of them right now. And I don’t think running a fast 40 should change any of that for a DT, as someone else already pointed out, Naville and Blacklock displayed pretty poor short area change of direction. Which imo is way more important than running in a straight line.
 
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