New Salary Cap Proposal

[SFloridaCowboy]

I hate the salary cap in the NFL. It has robbed the Cowboys of so much talent over the years.

Jimmy Johnson built the deepest and most talented team ever, and then the flood of players leaving decimated the team. Jerry Jones has failed to properly manage this communist-like salary cap; the proof is in the pudding. The Cowboys continuously lose solid players.

The Boys drafted really fine players, they finally got a chance to shine in the Big D, then they leave because Jerry does not have enough money. Their replacements are not as good.

Ken Norton was the first one who was let go because of the salary cap. The biggest mistake in Cowboys history. Jerry overpays for several players, some not prudently because he likes them so much, leaving little left for emerging stars to remain, and little to no money to sign free agents.

I propose that each team gets to designate two players whose salaries are not subject to the cap, one of offense and one on defense. We would designate Dak and on the new contract for Micah, he would be our designation. This would have opened up the team's purses to sign a Derrick Henry and at least two defensive tackles.

 

[Longboysfan]

This would cost the owners money.
Not something most small market teams would want.

 

[The Quest for Six]

In the past I was for having a couple of veteran tenured players(nine or ten years of service with one team) not count against the cap until Tom Brady came along and then I thought it wouldn't be a competitive balance if one or two teams don't have the quarterback position(eating most of the cap space) count against the cap..it would be an unfair competitive balance for one or two teams having 60 million Quarterback NOT account against their cap

 

[calicowboy54]

This would cost the owners money.
Not something most small market teams would want.

yeah you would have to do something like NBA with luxury tax and that kills the small market teams. look at the places like OKC they have to draft and develop because they have people leaving every few years because they cannot pay the luxury tax. where you have LA lakers in the luxury tax 4x over every year and paying players with super teams

 

[Flamma]

I hate the salary cap in the NFL. It has robbed the Cowboys of so much talent over the years.

Jimmy Johnson built the deepest and most talented team ever, and then the flood of players leaving decimated the team. Jerry Jones has failed to properly manage this communist-like salary cap; the proof is in the pudding. The Cowboys continuously lose solid players.

The Boys drafted really fine players, they finally got a chance to shine in the Big D, then they leave because Jerry does not have enough money. Their replacements are not as good.

Ken Norton was the first one who was let go because of the salary cap. The biggest mistake in Cowboys history. Jerry overpays for several players, some not prudently because he likes them so much, leaving little left for emerging stars to remain, and little to no money to sign free agents.

I propose that each team gets to designate two players whose salaries are not subject to the cap, one of offense and one on defense. We would designate Dak and on the new contract for Micah, he would be our designation. This would have opened up the team's purses to sign a Derrick Henry and at least two defensive tackles.

There was also another good suggestion I heard. If you resign a player you drafted, they count X% amount less against the cap. The problem with these ideas is that they allow for more spending.

The owners are fine with capping things to spend less. Not fine with loosening things to spend more. Who was one of the strongest proponents for the hard cap? Jerry Jones.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I hate the salary cap in the NFL. It has robbed the Cowboys of so much talent over the years.

Jimmy Johnson built the deepest and most talented team ever, and then the flood of players leaving decimated the team. Jerry Jones has failed to properly manage this communist-like salary cap; the proof is in the pudding. The Cowboys continuously lose solid players.

The Boys drafted really fine players, they finally got a chance to shine in the Big D, then they leave because Jerry does not have enough money. Their replacements are not as good.

Ken Norton was the first one who was let go because of the salary cap. The biggest mistake in Cowboys history. Jerry overpays for several players, some not prudently because he likes them so much, leaving little left for emerging stars to remain, and little to no money to sign free agents.

I propose that each team gets to designate two players whose salaries are not subject to the cap, one of offense and one on defense. We would designate Dak and on the new contract for Micah, he would be our designation. This would have opened up the team's purses to sign a Derrick Henry and at least two defensive tackles.

Yall do know the owners want the cap, right?

Not to increase parity so more teams are viable…but to artificially keep salaries under control, right?

 

[Longboysfan]

In the past I was for having a couple of veteran tenured players(nine or ten years of service with one team) not count against the cap until Tom Brady came along and then I thought it wouldn't be a competitive balance if one or two teams don't have the quarterback position(eating most of the cap space) count against the cap..it would be an unfair competitive balance for one or two teams having 60 million Quarterback NOT account against their cap

I thought the teams did get a slight CAP discount for older players.

 

[Flamma]

In the past I was for having a couple of veteran tenured players(nine or ten years of service with one team) not count against the cap until Tom Brady came along and then I thought it wouldn't be a competitive balance if one or two teams don't have the quarterback position(eating most of the cap space) count against the cap..it would be an unfair competitive balance for one or two teams having 60 million Quarterback NOT account against their cap

That's a very good point. Because we see the competitive advantage they have now when on rookie contracts.

 

[Flamma]

Yall do know the owners want the cap, right?

Not to increase parity so more teams are viable…but to artificially keep salaries under control, right?

Yes. Parity is the smiley face front they tell everyone. It is 100% about keeping salaries down. Parity is simply a by-product of the cap.

 

[John813]

Yea, I doubt most owners would not be for this.

It's a business. Having two guys, who would be overpaid big time, would hurt the profit margins for most clubs.

Dallas, even when they didn't have a huge QB contract or defensive contract still didn't sign players.
IMO the Joneses like crying poor simply cause they don't want to dip their toes in the FA pool.

 

[Flamma]

I thought the teams did get a slight CAP discount for older players.

I do not believe that is a thing. But it happens naturally without any rules. Zeke and Dalvin Cook are two good examples of discounted players.

 

[sunalsorises]

The union would have to negotiate salaries to resolve the salary cap issues. A player would get slated into a salary based on position, years of service, and accomplishments. It would be similar to the rookie contract scale.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Ken Norton was the first one who was let go because of the salary cap.

He wasn't let go. He was a FA and decided to leave Dallas.

 

[Cowboys93]

NFL should adopt some sort of variation of the NBA Bird-rights. Players that your team drafts and perform at a high level should be able to be paid a % more without penalty on the cap for the original team. It incentivizes drafting well and mitigates losing talent

 

[thunderpimp91]

It sounds good at first, but what is the actual benefit? Is this any different than just increasing the cap another $80M every year? You'll still have a cap in place itll just be split up between two fewer people so the percentage of the cap math changes and everyone gets a raise.

Any sort of solution here probably needs to include either a draft discount towards the cap, or the league putting in max contracts.

Ultimately the real solution is for Owners and GMs to stop paying market rate and being willing to walk away from players when needed. The top 10 players (contract average) in the league are on teams with a combined 33-29 record this year....pretty mediocre for the leagues 10 highest paid guys. Only one of those 10 teams leads a division right now (Detroit), although multiple are within striking distance.

Of the division leaders right now their highest paid player is...

BUF - $43M
KC - $45m
Pit - $28M
HOU - $25M
WAS - $22M
DET - $53 (Tied w/ Minn - $35m)
TB - $33M
SEA - $25M

The issue isnt the cap, the issue is teams managing the cap and overvaluing the QB position.

 

[Plankton]

This argument rings pretty hollow when Jerry Jones was perhaps the largest proponent of there being a salary cap instituted.

 

[fivetwos]

I hate the salary cap in the NFL. It has robbed the Cowboys of so much talent over the years.

Jimmy Johnson built the deepest and most talented team ever, and then the flood of players leaving decimated the team. Jerry Jones has failed to properly manage this communist-like salary cap; the proof is in the pudding. The Cowboys continuously lose solid players.

The Boys drafted really fine players, they finally got a chance to shine in the Big D, then they leave because Jerry does not have enough money. Their replacements are not as good.

Ken Norton was the first one who was let go because of the salary cap. The biggest mistake in Cowboys history. Jerry overpays for several players, some not prudently because he likes them so much, leaving little left for emerging stars to remain, and little to no money to sign free agents.

I propose that each team gets to designate two players whose salaries are not subject to the cap, one of offense and one on defense. We would designate Dak and on the new contract for Micah, he would be our designation. This would have opened up the team's purses to sign a Derrick Henry and at least two defensive tackles.

I don’t really agree, but if you feel that way, sounds good….

I liked Norton also, and hated where he went and what happened immediately, but it’s probably not a great example since they had first rounder Robert Jones ready to step in and they won with him the following year.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

It's a business. Having two guys, who would be overpaid big time, would hurt the profit margins for most clubs.

Could you not control if you cap the percentage they can get based on the team's overall salary? In other words, you can sign your up to 2 players for any amount you choose w/o count against the cap as long as their salary doesn't exceed say 30-35% ( just guessing ) of the team's budget.

But interestingly, you don't hear any concerns from owners or players regarding the cal structure ........

 

[John813]

Could you not control if you cap the percentage they can get based on the team's overall salary? In other words, you can sign your up to 2 players for any amount you choose w/o count against the cap as long as their salary doesn't exceed say 30-35% ( just guessing ) of the team's budget.

But interestingly, you don't hear any concerns from owners or players regarding the cal structure ........

I mean if you wanted to propose a limit within the players not subject to the cap.
But at the end of the day it's going to be the QB on offense and then an edge or DT on defense.
Just to simplify the 30%, if it's based off the salary cap, right now the max pay then would be 76.5mil AAV for a QB or defensive player.

Think with any QB that's worth anything, they all would be asking for the max limit or threaten to walk.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

All this would do is inflate the contracts of other positions - it wouldn't make a difference.