OK, Might as Well Bring up the Possibility...

ravidubey

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... that Jerry Jones and Bill Parcells have at times strongly disagreed on the entire approach to free agency this year and that the result thus far has been a string of compromises and standoffs that have netted us our strange offseason. This seemingly ill-timed vacation is a chance to get away from each other as much as anything else.

Compromise, while essential to any relationship, can be exhausting and result in not much getting done:

Disagreements
- Laroi Glover. Jerry wanted to keep him, BP didn't want him. Jerry caved because of Glover's cap hit.

- Keyshawn Johnson. Jerry didn't want to get into a holdout situation, BP wanted to keep him. BP caved since Key promised to give Dallas a chance to match.

- Terrell Owens. Jerry wants to do his best Jimmy Johnson impression and take the gamble. Parcells is lukewarm and doesn't want the spectacle that is the Dallas Cowboys centered around one player (and not himself). Despite being on vacation, both JJ and BP are hard-wired to Drew Rosenhaus via sat phone and pager as TO's talent will make BP ultimately cave.

- Larry Allen. Jerry is struggling to find ways to keep him because he loves him. Parcells shrugs his shoulders. Allen is a tie to the old regime of prideful, super-talented players that are not "Parcells Guys". If BP had a real choice (or if a guard could be a decoy ala Galloway), Larry would sit. Kosier gives BP a choice.

- McGinest. Jerry could care less, and won't pay a 12 year veteran LB (another of Jerry's traditionally low-paid positions). Ware also plays McGinest's position while McGinest would start in Cleveland. So BP has openly told him to head to Cleveland to at least score points with Romeo and not waste McGinest's time.

- Bentley, Hope, Chavous, Longwell. All lowballed by Jerry and Stephen. Jones sees big money, time, and draft picks already expended on the OL and Secondary and thus refuses to pay Bentley and Hope. He also traditionally does not pay a lot to FS, Centers, and Kickers as they are not the star-calibre players that make him proud. Parcells would take any of these guys but won't argue the finances.

- Viniateri. Again the Jerry-kicker limit. Thus BP has openly told him stay in New England and not waste his time.


Agreements

- Ellis. Jerry loves him and he has the work ethic of a BPP. He's not a 3-4 guy, but you can't ignore his productivity. He also has a medium cap hit.
- Campbell. A Parcells locker room guy who kept getting hurt. Jerry shrugs his shoulders so this is an easy call. Hannam is a possible replacement.
- Ayodele, Kosier. Medium cost role players that fill needs. Better than average, do not take plays off, and most importantly are young. Parcells must have been scarred seeing Kosier manhandle Jason Ferguson.
- Josh Reed. Both JJ and BP were both mentally scarred watching him nail two 50 yarders in the rain in the clutch. He's young and costs minimal draft compensation (if any).

The agreements are easy because they don't involve much money. Unfortunately they also don't provide a tremendous impact either. Fortunately money is not as big a factor in the draft which (TO aside) is going to have to carry the Cowboys' offseason.
 

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Wonder what they both think about a draft pick for Jevon ?
 

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Jarv said:
Wonder what they both think about a draft pick for Jevon ?

Bill doesn't know the player and Jerral has his sites set on the splash he'll make with TO. It's too bad, because I'd definitely trade our 2nd for Walker right now.
 

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Wow, I don't think I have seen a post ever with so much detail and yet so completely made up. Start to finish, complete speculation.
 

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I don't recall Josh Reed hitting a 50-yarder against us, I believe you're refering to Josh Brown maybe?
 

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ravidubey said:
... that Jerry Jones and Bill Parcells have at times strongly disagreed on the entire approach to free agency this year and that the result thus far has been a string of compromises and standoffs that have netted us our strange offseason. This seemingly ill-timed vacation is a chance to get away from each other as much as anything else.

Compromise, while essential to any relationship, can be exhausting and result in not much getting done:

Disagreements
- Laroi Glover. Jerry wanted to keep him, BP didn't want him. Jerry caved because of Glover's cap hit.

- Keyshawn Johnson. Jerry didn't want to get into a holdout situation, BP wanted to keep him. BP caved since Key promised to give Dallas a chance to match.

- Terrell Owens. Jerry wants to do his best Jimmy Johnson impression and take the gamble. Parcells is lukewarm and doesn't want the spectacle that is the Dallas Cowboys centered around one player (and not himself). Despite being on vacation, both JJ and BP are hard-wired to Drew Rosenhaus via sat phone and pager as TO's talent will make BP ultimately cave.

- Larry Allen. Jerry is struggling to find ways to keep him because he loves him. Parcells shrugs his shoulders. Allen is a tie to the old regime of prideful, super-talented players that are not "Parcells Guys". If BP had a real choice (or if a guard could be a decoy ala Galloway), Larry would sit. Kosier gives BP a choice.

- McGinest. Jerry could care less, and won't pay a 12 year veteran LB (another of Jerry's traditionally low-paid positions). Ware also plays McGinest's position while McGinest would start in Cleveland. So BP has openly told him to head to Cleveland to at least score points with Romeo and not waste McGinest's time.

- Bentley, Hope, Chavous, Longwell. All lowballed by Jerry and Stephen. Jones sees big money, time, and draft picks already expended on the OL and Secondary and thus refuses to pay Bentley and Hope. He also traditionally does not pay a lot to FS, Centers, and Kickers as they are not the star-calibre players that make him proud. Parcells would take any of these guys but won't argue the finances.

- Viniateri. Again the Jerry-kicker limit. Thus BP has openly told him stay in New England and not waste his time.


Agreements

- Ellis. Jerry loves him and he has the work ethic of a BPP. He's not a 3-4 guy, but you can't ignore his productivity. He also has a medium cap hit.
- Campbell. A Parcells locker room guy who kept getting hurt. Jerry shrugs his shoulders so this is an easy call. Hannam is a possible replacement.
- Ayodele, Kosier. Medium cost role players that fill needs. Better than average, do not take plays off, and most importantly are young. Parcells must have been scarred seeing Kosier manhandle Jason Ferguson.
- Josh Reed. Both JJ and BP were both mentally scarred watching him nail two 50 yarders in the rain in the clutch. He's young and costs minimal draft compensation (if any).

The agreements are easy because they don't involve much money. Unfortunately they also don't provide a tremendous impact either. Fortunately money is not as big a factor in the draft which (TO aside) is going to have to carry the Cowboys' offseason.

Are these your disagreements and agrements or are they what you think are Jerry's and Bill's. IF the later, please show your work...Thanks.
 

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Why would Bill ever come back if there were these differences in what direction the team should go.

Bill and Jerry are on the same page..........

Its slow and they are on vacation because they wanted to be.....there waiting for the market price to go down and pick up value.

They are just playing the waiting game.....sure it might get us in trouble...but the last thing this team needs is to over spend for older players or average younger players.

I think Jerry and Bill are in totally agreement on how things are run at valley ranch.......the contract extention proves it......everything else is speculation
 

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ravidubey said:
... that Jerry Jones and Bill Parcells have at times strongly disagreed on the entire approach to free agency this year and that the result thus far has been a string of compromises and standoffs that have netted us our strange offseason. This seemingly ill-timed vacation is a chance to get away from each other as much as anything else.

Compromise, while essential to any relationship, can be exhausting and result in not much getting done:

Disagreements
- Laroi Glover. Jerry wanted to keep him, BP didn't want him. Jerry caved because of Glover's cap hit.

- Keyshawn Johnson. Jerry didn't want to get into a holdout situation, BP wanted to keep him. BP caved since Key promised to give Dallas a chance to match.

- Terrell Owens. Jerry wants to do his best Jimmy Johnson impression and take the gamble. Parcells is lukewarm and doesn't want the spectacle that is the Dallas Cowboys centered around one player (and not himself). Despite being on vacation, both JJ and BP are hard-wired to Drew Rosenhaus via sat phone and pager as TO's talent will make BP ultimately cave.

- Larry Allen. Jerry is struggling to find ways to keep him because he loves him. Parcells shrugs his shoulders. Allen is a tie to the old regime of prideful, super-talented players that are not "Parcells Guys". If BP had a real choice (or if a guard could be a decoy ala Galloway), Larry would sit. Kosier gives BP a choice.

- McGinest. Jerry could care less, and won't pay a 12 year veteran LB (another of Jerry's traditionally low-paid positions). Ware also plays McGinest's position while McGinest would start in Cleveland. So BP has openly told him to head to Cleveland to at least score points with Romeo and not waste McGinest's time.

- Bentley, Hope, Chavous, Longwell. All lowballed by Jerry and Stephen. Jones sees big money, time, and draft picks already expended on the OL and Secondary and thus refuses to pay Bentley and Hope. He also traditionally does not pay a lot to FS, Centers, and Kickers as they are not the star-calibre players that make him proud. Parcells would take any of these guys but won't argue the finances.

- Viniateri. Again the Jerry-kicker limit. Thus BP has openly told him stay in New England and not waste his time.


Agreements

- Ellis. Jerry loves him and he has the work ethic of a BPP. He's not a 3-4 guy, but you can't ignore his productivity. He also has a medium cap hit.
- Campbell. A Parcells locker room guy who kept getting hurt. Jerry shrugs his shoulders so this is an easy call. Hannam is a possible replacement.
- Ayodele, Kosier. Medium cost role players that fill needs. Better than average, do not take plays off, and most importantly are young. Parcells must have been scarred seeing Kosier manhandle Jason Ferguson.
- Josh Reed. Both JJ and BP were both mentally scarred watching him nail two 50 yarders in the rain in the clutch. He's young and costs minimal draft compensation (if any).

The agreements are easy because they don't involve much money. Unfortunately they also don't provide a tremendous impact either. Fortunately money is not as big a factor in the draft which (TO aside) is going to have to carry the Cowboys' offseason.


Where exactly did you get all your "inside info" about who Jerry likes and dislikes, and who Bill likes and dislikes??

Seems to me that you're making a LOT of assumptions here...
 

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nice conspiracy theory, I know I couldn't have made it through the day without hearing one
 

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acruther said:
Wow, I don't think I have seen a post ever with so much detail and yet so completely made up. Start to finish, complete speculation.
yet entertaining. good post.
 

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acruther said:
Wow, I don't think I have seen a post ever with so much detail and yet so completely made up. Start to finish, complete speculation.

We are all on the outside looking in, and I'm guessing the above is a possibility-- of course it is all speculation! Obviously I hope it is not true!
 
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