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Anyone know anything about plumbing? I have a whistling shower faucet in my upstairs bathroom but what makes this so weird is it only whistles when the faucet downstairs is opened, specifically the hot water. I have read about whistling faucets and how to fix them but in every case it is about a faucet that whistles when IT is turned on, not when some other faucet is opened.

I can't figure out why a faucet that is closed would whistle but you don't need a stethoscope to hear this faucet scream. It is loud and obvious where it is coming from. I have a feeling it has something to do with the diverter that sends the water from the bathtub faucet to the shower head, but again, why would it whistle if there is no water running through it?

This just started about a week ago, after a plumber fixed a leaky pipe coming out of my water heater. Any ideas would be appreciated.
 

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Anyone know anything about plumbing? I have a whistling shower faucet in my upstairs bathroom but what makes this so weird is it only whistles when the faucet downstairs is opened, specifically the hot water. I have read about whistling faucets and how to fix them but in every case it is about a faucet that whistles when IT is turned on, not when some other faucet is opened.

I can't figure out why a faucet that is closed would whistle but you don't need a stethoscope to hear this faucet scream. It is loud and obvious where it is coming from. I have a feeling it has something to do with the diverter that sends the water from the bathtub faucet to the shower head, but again, why would it whistle if there is no water running through it?

This just started about a week ago, after a plumber fixed a leaky pipe coming out of my water heater. Any ideas would be appreciated.
Did you check your water pressure? If you have a well pump, maybe the upper limit is set too high. If you have municipal water, there should be a pressure reducing valve in your house after the meter. Hopefully you have a pressure gauge on your system. You should be ok with 60psi.

Do you have galvanized water piping. I hope not. That is a much bigger issue to solve.

You could have some scale or sediment obstructing your faucet aerators. If you find a lot of scale on your spout discharge, you have hard water and a white vinegar soak for the aerator and screen will work well to free the scale form them.

Good luck.
 

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Did you check your water pressure? If you have a well pump, maybe the upper limit is set too high. If you have municipal water, there should be a pressure reducing valve in your house after the meter. Hopefully you have a pressure gauge on your system. You should be ok with 60psi.

Do you have galvanized water piping. I hope not. That is a much bigger issue to solve.

You could have some scale or sediment obstructing your faucet aerators. If you find a lot of scale on your spout discharge, you have hard water and a white vinegar soak for the aerator and screen will work well to free the scale form them.

Good luck.

I have copper throughout the house. But I will check the water pressure. Thanks.
 

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Anyone know anything about plumbing? I have a whistling shower faucet in my upstairs bathroom but what makes this so weird is it only whistles when the faucet downstairs is opened, specifically the hot water. I have read about whistling faucets and how to fix them but in every case it is about a faucet that whistles when IT is turned on, not when some other faucet is opened.

I can't figure out why a faucet that is closed would whistle but you don't need a stethoscope to hear this faucet scream. It is loud and obvious where it is coming from. I have a feeling it has something to do with the diverter that sends the water from the bathtub faucet to the shower head, but again, why would it whistle if there is no water running through it?

This just started about a week ago, after a plumber fixed a leaky pipe coming out of my water heater. Any ideas would be appreciated.
The whistling is probably from the air pressure of the other faucet running in the same system.
 

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Anyone know anything about plumbing? I have a whistling shower faucet in my upstairs bathroom but what makes this so weird is it only whistles when the faucet downstairs is opened, specifically the hot water. I have read about whistling faucets and how to fix them but in every case it is about a faucet that whistles when IT is turned on, not when some other faucet is opened.

I can't figure out why a faucet that is closed would whistle but you don't need a stethoscope to hear this faucet scream. It is loud and obvious where it is coming from. I have a feeling it has something to do with the diverter that sends the water from the bathtub faucet to the shower head, but again, why would it whistle if there is no water running through it?

This just started about a week ago, after a plumber fixed a leaky pipe coming out of my water heater. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Sounds to me that when the water is on, it is creating a vacuum and likely sucking air from the other faucet and causing the whistle. Maybe tighten the hot water knob a little tighter.
 

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Thanks for everyone's answers. I will work on it this week and let you all know what it was - if I figure it out. There is always calling the plumber.
 

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I dip my shower head in it when necessary, but I don't think it's needed for this.
 

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I dip my shower head in it when necessary, but I don't think it's needed for this.

soaking the showerhead in 1/2 vinegar 1/2 water for 24 hours does the trick too and it's a lot cheaper.


Also when buying a new showerhead, does anyone else immediately kill the water limiter in it before installing? I like shower PRESSURE darnit.
 

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soaking the showerhead in 1/2 vinegar 1/2 water for 24 hours does the trick too and it's a lot cheaper.


Also when buying a new showerhead, does anyone else immediately kill the water limiter in it before installing? I like shower PRESSURE darnit.
If you cant peel shrimp with it you do not have enough pressure
 

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I'll be right over. Holiday rates OK? It will be declared a national holiday when they find out I fixed anything related to plumbing. Not to be confused with electrical issues, which I can't fix either. Or structural issues. Other than that, I am a dandy fixer of broken things.

I am the Barney Fife of handy men and was only allowed one tool in my belt, according to my wife, and the tool wearing the belt was the one. We had two stages of disrepair, pre CC touching it and post CC touching it, the latter was significantly higher when the professional arrived.
 

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I promised an update and here it is. To recap, I was hearing this loud whistling sound from a bathroom in my house whenever I would turn on the water anywhere in the house. It seemed to be emanating from the bathtub/shower valve. To test it, I would turn on the water downstairs in the kitchen and the sound would start. After turning on the shower valve in the bathroom, the sound would stop change in pitch and volume. Naturally I assumed it was the shower valve. So I dismantled it, took out the pressure equalizer cartridge to get the part number, put it back together, and the sound went away - for about 8 hours. Then it return louder than ever.

The shower valve was purchased from Restoration Hardware or RH when I had the bathroom gutted and renovated. After shopping around on the internet for a few hours I could not definitively identify the right replacement cartridge by the part number stamped on the old cartridge. So, I called RH customer service. My second mistake. My first was buying anything from RH in the first place. Overpriced and not particularly good stuff. But the wife liked the designs. This is a subject for another thread.

I asked the customer service person for the right part number and she gave me a number that does not match the part number of the cartridge I removed or any part number I could find at any plumbing supply place in the country. I repeatedly asked if she had the OEM part number so I could go find the part somewhere on the internet at the best price. RH wanted $135.00. Of course, she had no idea what I was talking about and continued to give the the same RH part number which is only good at RH. So I wound up purchasing the cartridge from RH to make sure I had the right part. I just wanted the noise to stop. $135.00 for the cartridge. Then she surprised me with a $20 charge because it is a custom order. Then of course there is sales tax and shipping. $165 for a cartridge to rid my home of that brain exploding whistle when anyone uses the water. They told me it would arrive sometime in October. I am an idiot. But the worst was yet to come.

The sound began to occur for apparently no reason. No water was running and there it was again. It would go on and off. Very strange. I went back to the bathroom to listen again. I turned on the sink and it whistled. I turned on the shower and that whistled too. But something drew me to the toilet, and it was not the Mexican food I had the night before. I took the cover off the toilet tank and the sound was much more distinct. I jiggled the valve lever on the toilet float and viola! The sound stopped immediately. I pushed down just slightly on the lever and the sound started again. It was the freaking toilet tank float valve all along! If I had 20 year old hearing maybe it would have been more obvious too me sooner but my ear have been through many years of guitar playing through a 100 watt Marshall and, and my brother's and my sons drum playing. I can still hear a little. Anyway, $15 later with the new toilet float installed the sound has finally stopped completely. I run around the house turning on all the faucets just to enjoy the silence from the upstairs bathroom.

Then I thought, "great!" I can cancel my $165 cartridge order which had not shipped yet. Not so fast. RH claims the shower valve cartridge was a special order, or "custom". Those orders cannot be returned or cancelled. What BS. It is not shipped. Why the hell can't they cancel it? I never would have bought the damn thing from them had they given me the OEM part number in the first place.

The moral of the story is don't buy anything from Restoration Hardware - ever. You pay a lot for merchandise they buy from other manufacturers and resell to you at a ridiculous price. Then they do not stand behind their customers when something goes wrong. When I get the valve cartridge in the mail in October, I will bet it is the same part I can find at most plumbing supply stores, for a lot less money.

To those who offered help, thank you.
 
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