Possible trade idea involving Lamb

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So, I was chatting with a friend of mine who is a Ravens fan. He and I came up with a possible trade idea involving Lamb. I was wondering what you all would think?

So, as we were discussing what we thought of the NFL landscape, I mentioned that we probably aren't going to be able to keep Dak, Lamb, and Parsons. As far as I know, the Ravens have a solid amount of cap space. So, I mentioned that, especially with CeeDee holding out, there may be a way to trade him. So, what he and I thought of was this for a couple of scenarios for trading him to Baltimore. It should be noted that this would be a trade of him outside the conference, so it shouldn't cause too much harm to us (even though we do play Baltimore this year):

  1. The Cowboys trade Lamb for a 1st and a 3rd. This gives the Cowboys a couple extra picks. The Ravens would have to resign him, but they should have the cap space to do that. Plus, Lamar would then have the options of throwing to Lamb, Flowers, Agholor, Bateman, or Mark Andrews with Derrick Henry out of the backfield. This gives them all the talent they should need to beat Kansas City. Meanwhile, the Cowboys would have an extra first to potentially draft a replacement for Lamb and an extra pick for whatever we want to do with it.
  2. The Cowboys trade Lamb for a 1st and Rashod Bateman. Bateman is on the last year of his contract, but he'd be a nice addition in a combination with Cooks and Tolbert. Plus, he shouldn't be too much for the Cowboys to extend if he were to want to remain here. Or, if we let him walk, we would get a comp pick (likely a 3rd) when someone else resigns him. So, in essence, it'd be a 1st and a 3rd the following draft.
Either way, both options would benefit the Cowboys and the Ravens if the Cowboys and Ravens were to come to such an agreement. CeeDee Lamb is worth at least a first in a trade. They'd be able to resign him, and Lamar would probably push their FO to get Lamb. They'd have the talent to get past the Chiefs as they're much closer to a championship than we are. We would have an extra pick and maybe a player in return to help expedite our rebuild. In essence, since we would then have 2 first round picks (plus maybe an extra pick or player). Depending on what we do at QB, we would either have the opportunity to draft a QB (if we let Dak walk) and a WR, trade up for a top QB (if we let Dak walk), or (if Dak stays) draft an olineman and a WR.

Basically, since we draft well, the Cowboys would be able to rebuild more quickly (especially with our defence sounding good in TC), while the Ravens would be getting a piece they'd need. I think it's a win-win. Plus, it makes the Cowboys a more likely contender in the near future with the extra draft capital, which benefits what we do well.
 

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So you get rid of one of the top young receivers in the NFL for a first-round pick that could be near the bottom of the round and might not net you nearly the same level of talent?

Dallas will re-sign Lamb, Dak and Parsons. It's just a matter of time.
 

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So you get rid of one of the top young receivers in the NFL for a first-round pick that could be near the bottom of the round and might not net you nearly the same level of talent?

Dallas will re-sign Lamb, Dak and Parsons. It's just a matter of time.

It's more that I'm not sure we get any of them signed. I'd rather get something for Lamb if we can't resign him than let him walk. I think Baltimore is the right place for such a trade, and getting another first would be nice.
 

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i don't think we are getting back enough. tyrek hill went in 22 for a 1st, 2nd, two 4ths and a 6th.

I would certainly be happy to get more, but I'm being mindful of the fact that CeeDee is in a contract year. So, the Ravens may not be willing to give up that much. But, I think a 1 and another pick or a player like Bateman would be a good return.
 

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1st and a 3rd or 1st and Bateman?????????????????

I guess someone forgot that 1st round pick would likely be in the middle 20's at best.

In either case the answer is the same. NO.

Just sign Lamb, which will happen.

I'm aware that it'd be a mid-20s first round pick, and I'd like to think we would get a bit more. I'd love for us to keep Lamb, but I'm not sure we do. So, hey, maybe getting a 1, 3, and a 5 would be solid too.
 

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It's more that I'm not sure we get any of them signed. I'd rather get something for Lamb if we can't resign him than let him walk. I think Baltimore is the right place for such a trade, and getting another first would be nice.
Getting a 1st rd pick from the Ravens is like getting a 2nd...What would that 1st be like in the late 20's to 30ish pick??
 

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We gain absolutely nothing from trading lamb for just draft picks right now. In the off-season after we franchise him we could trade him then and get the same thing. Unless the trade includes a player there's no point.
 

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I would certainly be happy to get more, but I'm being mindful of the fact that CeeDee is in a contract year. So, the Ravens may not be willing to give up that much. But, I think a 1 and another pick or a player like Bateman would be a good return.
hill was going into the last year of his contract at that point also. i'm not huge on bateman. he's a good return but i rather get a 2nd. maybe a 1, 2 and bateman.
 

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I'm asking for two 1's for Ceedee and taking a 1st and a 2nd. He's a top 2 WR in the league with several years of peak productivity ahead of him. IF the team has decided to move on from Dak then I think this is actually a viable option. I think signing Ceedee and letting Dak walk makes almost no sense, as you are effectively wasting Ceedee's prime. He and Dak should be a package deal in my opinion. Either trade Ceedee now, let Dak walk next year, and build around Micah, or sign all three and go for it now. That's one reason I think it makes no sense to wait on Dak, his fate should be tied to Ceedees. No point in having the best WR in the league if you don't have a good QB to throw to him and you only have a mid-late first round pick next year to draft a QB. Not ideal.
 

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I'm asking for two 1's for Ceedee and taking a 1st and a 2nd. IF the team has decided to move on from Dak then I think this is actually a viable option. I think signing Ceedee and letting Dak walk makes almost no sense, as you are effectively wasting Ceedee's prime. He and Dak should be a package deal in my opinion. Either trade Ceedee now, let Dak walk next year, and build around Micah, or sign all three and go for it now. That's one reason I think it makes no sense to wait on Dak, his fate should be tied to Ceedees. No point in having the best WR in the league if you don't have a good QB to throw to him and you only have a mid-late first round pick next year to draft a QB? Not ideal.

I would love for 2 1sts from Baltimore, but they seldom give up that. If we were trying to get an enhanced deal that the Ravens might do, I'd love for us to get a 1, 3, and 5 this year and a 2, 4, and 5. This gives us a nice haul of picks to build our future.
 

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So, I was chatting with a friend of mine who is a Ravens fan. He and I came up with a possible trade idea involving Lamb. I was wondering what you all would think?

So, as we were discussing what we thought of the NFL landscape, I mentioned that we probably aren't going to be able to keep Dak, Lamb, and Parsons. As far as I know, the Ravens have a solid amount of cap space. So, I mentioned that, especially with CeeDee holding out, there may be a way to trade him. So, what he and I thought of was this for a couple of scenarios for trading him to Baltimore. It should be noted that this would be a trade of him outside the conference, so it shouldn't cause too much harm to us (even though we do play Baltimore this year):

  1. The Cowboys trade Lamb for a 1st and a 3rd. This gives the Cowboys a couple extra picks. The Ravens would have to resign him, but they should have the cap space to do that. Plus, Lamar would then have the options of throwing to Lamb, Flowers, Agholor, Bateman, or Mark Andrews with Derrick Henry out of the backfield. This gives them all the talent they should need to beat Kansas City. Meanwhile, the Cowboys would have an extra first to potentially draft a replacement for Lamb and an extra pick for whatever we want to do with it.
  2. The Cowboys trade Lamb for a 1st and Rashod Bateman. Bateman is on the last year of his contract, but he'd be a nice addition in a combination with Cooks and Tolbert. Plus, he shouldn't be too much for the Cowboys to extend if he were to want to remain here. Or, if we let him walk, we would get a comp pick (likely a 3rd) when someone else resigns him. So, in essence, it'd be a 1st and a 3rd the following draft.
Either way, both options would benefit the Cowboys and the Ravens if the Cowboys and Ravens were to come to such an agreement. CeeDee Lamb is worth at least a first in a trade. They'd be able to resign him, and Lamar would probably push their FO to get Lamb. They'd have the talent to get past the Chiefs as they're much closer to a championship than we are. We would have an extra pick and maybe a player in return to help expedite our rebuild. In essence, since we would then have 2 first round picks (plus maybe an extra pick or player). Depending on what we do at QB, we would either have the opportunity to draft a QB (if we let Dak walk) and a WR, trade up for a top QB (if we let Dak walk), or (if Dak stays) draft an olineman and a WR.

Basically, since we draft well, the Cowboys would be able to rebuild more quickly (especially with our defence sounding good in TC), while the Ravens would be getting a piece they'd need. I think it's a win-win. Plus, it makes the Cowboys a more likely contender in the near future with the extra draft capital, which benefits what we do well.

Okay, to enhance this, what if the Cowboys were to get a deal for a 1, 3, and 5 (conditional that can become a 4) this year, and a 2, 3, and a 5 next year, plus maybe a 4 the following year? I don't think the Ravens give up 2 1sts, but this could be a good haul that gives us a lot of ammo.
 
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