Quentin Johnston TCU

[CATCH17]

The guy has rare after the catch ability and the thing everyone is knocking him on is how he plays the ball while it’s in the air yet he has a 40 inch vertical.


So you’re telling me a guy that size, who moves like Lamb, has a 40 inch vertical and you’re scared to draft him because he doesn’t high point well?

Well then teach him lol. This is silly.

He has literally every tool to be good at this. Just coach him to do it.

If he starts high pointing passes and you past on him because you didn’t see it on tape but the skill set is clearly there then what are you doing as a GM or coach?

If Dallas wants a wideout then that’s our guy imo.

He fits perfect into our offense as an X WR and Dak’s not one to throw a contested ball anyways.

 

[RS12]

He should have a physical advantage over virtually every DB he faces yet does poorly in contested balls. Seems like a red flag to me. And before you blame his QB, there is a likely chance he gets drafted, and a decent chance he goes to the Cowboys.

 

[CATCH17]

He should have a physical advantage over virtually every DB he faces yet does poorly in contested balls. Seems like a red flag to me. And before you blame his QB, there is a likely chance he gets drafted, and a decent chance he goes to the Cowboys.

Not blaming his QB at all and I see what everyone is saying.

All these things are coachable imo.

He has rare skill for a guy that size and he has the measurables to be great at the things he’s weak at.

If you’re a coach and you don’t think you can make him good at his weaknesses then you don’t belong in the NFL because the tools are there.

Dude is 6’4 with a 40 inch vertical. How about coach him to high point.

He has a lot that can’t be taught and the things he needs to get better at can be taught.

 

[Carson]

Hes been my 2nd favorite receiver all draft behind JSN

 

[zrinkill]

Please no Wr, Te, or Cb in first round

 

[Hardline]

He's been falsely labeled a body catcher.
Michael Irvin was a body catcher.

 

[Gaede]

Everyone's down on him. But yeah, I agree he's still an excellent prospect and should be a consideration for us. Gives us something we don't have

 

[Cowboyny]

The negatives what I heard from him: came in much lighter than the scouts projected, teams are worried him be able to handle press coverage, more of a body catcher, doesn't win enough 50/50 balls. Reportedly had a terrible pro day where he dropped several passes. Many believe he is like the Broncos Sutton, who is just an ok player.

 

[xwalker]

The guy has rare after the catch ability and the thing everyone is knocking him on is how he plays the ball while it’s in the air yet he has a 40 inch vertical.


So you’re telling me a guy that size, who moves like Lamb, has a 40 inch vertical and you’re scared to draft him because he doesn’t high point well?

Well then teach him lol. This is silly.

He has literally every tool to be good at this. Just coach him to do it.

If he starts high pointing passes and you past on him because you didn’t see it on tape but the skill set is clearly there then what are you doing as a GM or coach?

If Dallas wants a wideout then that’s our guy imo.

He fits perfect into our offense as an X WR and Dak’s not one to throw a contested ball anyways.

I would be happy if the Cowboys drafted him at #58.

The issue is that there will likely be better players available at #26 or player with less question marks.

If a WR struggles to catch the ball, then his measurables don't matter....

 

[cowboyec]

if wr is their prefered target...i want flowers or this big tcu horned frog.
love his size.
good hands.
if wr is the target...i'd love this guy.

 

[BleedSilverandBlue]

He has a lot that can’t be taught and the things he needs to get better at can be taught.

I agree that his physical talents are rare, and he very well could have an incredible NFL career, but the question I always ask about guys like this is "If it can be taught, why have they not managed to learn it from a Power 5 coaching staff?".

If we draft him, I will not be upset at all but will certainly be concerned about some of his short comings.

 

[xwalker]

The guy has rare after the catch ability and the thing everyone is knocking him on is how he plays the ball while it’s in the air yet he has a 40 inch vertical.


So you’re telling me a guy that size, who moves like Lamb, has a 40 inch vertical and you’re scared to draft him because he doesn’t high point well?

Well then teach him lol. This is silly.

He has literally every tool to be good at this. Just coach him to do it.

If he starts high pointing passes and you past on him because you didn’t see it on tape but the skill set is clearly there then what are you doing as a GM or coach?

If Dallas wants a wideout then that’s our guy imo.

He fits perfect into our offense as an X WR and Dak’s not one to throw a contested ball anyways.

If you want to draft based on measurables (big, tall, wow vert, fast), then draft Bryce Ford-Wheaton.

​	Bryce Ford-Wheaton​	Quentin Johnston​
Height​	6036​	6026​
Weight​	221​	212​
Hand​	09 3/8​	09 5/8​
Arm​	33 1/2​	33 5/8​
Wingspan​	82 1/4​	81 5/8​
40 Yard Dash (ET)​	4.38​	4.52​
20 Yard (ET)​	2.58​	2.61​
10 Yard (ET)​	1.52​	1.59​
225 Lb. Bench Reps​	​	​
Vertical Jump​	41​	40 1/2​
Broad Jump​	10'09"​	11'02"​
20 Yrd Shuttle​	4.15​	4.28​
3-Cone Drill​	6.97​	7.31​

 

[Aven8]

The kid is a stud and reminds me of TO with the ball in his hands. Remember TO had to learn to catch as well.

 

[J12B]

I think he'll be a boom or bust type of player.

Like 4 games where you don't hear much from him. Then out of no where he'll go for 7 catches 150 yards and 2 tds.

I wouldn't be disappointed taking him at 26, but I do think there will be better value at 26 and there will be better value at WR in rounds 2-3.

 

[CATCH17]

Everyone's down on him. But yeah, I agree he's still an excellent prospect and should be a consideration for us. Gives us something we don't have

I’m looking at the knocks on him and I’m like you’re joking right?

Not saying his negatives aren’t true. It’s just ridiculous to think these guys are a finished product coming out of college.

Dude can jump out of the building with his 40 inch very. If you can’t coach a 6’4 guy with a 40 inch very to high point a pass then how are you a NFL coach.

 

[darthseinfeld]

If you want to draft based on measurables (big, tall, wow vert, fast), then draft Bryce Ford-Wheaton.

​	Bryce Ford-Wheaton​	Quentin Johnston​
Height​	6036​	6026​
Weight​	221​	212​
Hand​	09 3/8​	09 5/8​
Arm​	33 1/2​	33 5/8​
Wingspan​	82 1/4​	81 5/8​
40 Yard Dash (ET)​	4.38​	4.52​
20 Yard (ET)​	2.58​	2.61​
10 Yard (ET)​	1.52​	1.59​
225 Lb. Bench Reps​	​	​
Vertical Jump​	41​	40 1/2​
Broad Jump​	10'09"​	11'02"​
20 Yrd Shuttle​	4.15​	4.28​
3-Cone Drill​	6.97​	7.31​

Wheaton isnt very good and definitely doesnt play to his measurables

 

[darthseinfeld]

I’m looking at the knocks on him and I’m like you’re joking right?

Not saying his negatives aren’t true. It’s just ridiculous to think these guys are a finished product coming out of college.

Dude can jump out of the building with his 40 inch very. If you can’t coach a 6’4 guy with a 40 inch very to high point a pass then how are you a NFL coach.

Im not super high in Johnson, but I think at this point he has been overthought and scrutinized. My question with him is how will be perform in Dallas. Im not sure he isnt wasted here. I think the top tier WR's in this draft are similar in quality, but of all of them I think Johnson is then worst Dallas fit

 

[btcutter]

The kid is a stud and reminds me of TO with the ball in his hands. Remember TO had to learn to catch as well.

TO was a 3rd rounder. Expect to have flaws.

QJ is considered a 1st rounder. I shouldn't have to correct major weakness in his game.
IMO, high point a ball, winning contested watches are innate skills that's hard to teach. Sure WR/TE will learn but much of it is natural ability.

 

[CATCH17]

TO was a 3rd rounder. Expect to have flaws.

QJ is considered a 1st rounder. I shouldn't have to correct major weakness in his game.
IMO, high point a ball, winning contested watches are innate skills that's hard to teach. Sure WR/TE will learn but much of it is natural ability.

All of these guys have big weakness in there game.

The #1 WR in this class missed the entire season with a hammy while Johnston was out scorching defenses.

 

[CowboyoWales]

I’m looking at the knocks on him and I’m like you’re joking right?

Not saying his negatives aren’t true. It’s just ridiculous to think these guys are a finished product coming out of college.

Dude can jump out of the building with his 40 inch very. If you can’t coach a 6’4 guy with a 40 inch very to high point a pass then how are you a NFL coach.

Ok, but that's not a 1st Rd pick. You're drafting physical traits when the player doesnt even play upto his advantages.