Raiders' first pick in demand

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Raiders' first pick in demand

As the Raiders reportedly look to trade for another veteran Pro Bowler, they are getting every opportunity to get back the premium pick they traded away in a similar deal last year.

An unnamed team has offered the Raiders a second-round pick this year and a first-round pick next year in exchange for the Raiders' No. 8 overall pick. (Well, the team has a name, but our league source wouldn't share).

That deal would allow the Raiders to get back in the 2011 first round after giving their pick to the Patriots in the Richard Seymour deal. (Lockout or not, there will be a draft next year, reportedly).

At least one other team has offered to swap spots with the Raiders. Perhaps this is evidence that the 2010 class is as good as advertised. People actually want back in the top-10 again.

So why haven't the Raiders bit?

The Raiders simply do not have a history of trading down from its first-round perch. They'll trade the spot away for a star player (Seymour, Randy Moss) but Raiders owner Al Davis doesn't have a track record of moving down the order for another pick.

So what does this have to do with Donovan McNabb?

According to reports, the Eagles would want a top-42 pick for McNabb. The Raiders currently pick 39th in the second round. Let's assume that's what it would take.

If the Raiders were to accept the aforementioned draft trade, here's what it could mean: they could give Philly their No. 39 pick, then use the other team's second-round pick in April. And, instead of picking No. 8 overall in this draft, they'd have a first-round pick in next year's draft. Nothing lost, just deferred.

Whatever the case with McNabb, if the Raiders want to trade their way back into the 2011 first round, they have been given at least one opportunity to do so.

** All this reminded me of the last time Davis spoke, after the Seymour trade. A reporter started to ask his thoughts of a rookie scale in 2011 even though he wouldn't have a pick in the class, when Davis got a bit agitated.

"Don't say we won't pick in 2011. You're wrong, you're wrong, didn't the 49ers take the first with Staley and the next year didn't they do it again this year? So don't make statements."

** He said something else that could apply to these "alleged" talks with the Eagles. By giving up a first-round pick for a player in the last year of his contract, Davis suggested he was willing to do whatever it takes to get the player he wants.

"Sometimes you've got to overpay to get what you want," Davis said in September. "But I didn't overpay. I don't think that's overpaying at all. Sometimes you have to, you don't always win the battle, the idea is to get the player."

So, if McNabb is the player he wants to get, he will get him soon enough.

** One more thing: wonder why the Raiders haven't leaked a word on this McNabb story?

"It's usually a conversation with me on any trade," Davis said in September. 'Nuf said.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?blogid=11&entry_id=60198
 

HoleInTheRoof

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I don't understand anything Al was trying to say.

Also, why would a team try so hard to get that #8 spot now, without knowing who will be availabe at that point in the draft?
 

Mash

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I dont know the going rate to get a top 20 pick.....but it must be worth more then this year second and next years first

Im lost in the way Al Davis is thinking......he may get back next years first but he is losing this years top 10 pick.....and all he gets is a 2nd rounder?

My brother is a big Raider fan ....I laugh....but I also feel sorry for him
 

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That deal is too risky. Waht if the team that makes the trade ends up having a grerat year...then the Raiders are hosed with a much lower pick next season.

Now if it's St Louis or Detroit offering this deal, then the Raiders a getting most likely a very high number 1 next year and the 33or 34thrd pick this year would possibly be worth it.

Even then, I'd have a hard time giving up the 8th pick this year unless it was a trade down into middle round 1 (say pick 16) and picking up that teams 1st rounder and second rounder for this year.
 

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The NFL really needs to look at Al Davis' mental state. They might have to step in before he ruins this organization for good.
 

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DFWJC;3325586 said:
That deal is too risky. Waht if the team that makes the trade ends up having a grerat year...then the Raiders are hosed with a much lower pick next season.

kinda like we did with that Cleveland trade

even tho we got 2 great players
 
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