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During the Eagles Browns game the announcer (not sure who it was I watched 3 minutes on YouTube) said that the refs have been instructed to not call PI either way “unless it gives the player (that committed the contact) a clear advantage”

It sounds pretty good. I like the idea, but giving refs more leeway to judge could also be bad. On the other hand there’s less old refs and the last couple of years have been a little better.
 

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so a defender can jam, hit, grab, pull basically harass a WR all the way down the field, hindering him from running his route the way he wants to, but as long as he doesn't do that when the ball arrives it's ok?
and vice versa, the WR can push, punch collide into a defender to get open as long as he does it in small doses
ok I'm good with that
if they actually let it play out like that, which I doubt.
 

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so a defender can jam, hit, grab, pull basically harass a WR all the way down the field, hindering him from running his route the way he wants to, but as long as he doesn't do that when the ball arrives it's ok?
and vice versa, the WR can push, punch collide into a defender to get open as long as he does it in small doses
ok I'm good with that
if they actually let it play out like that, which I doubt.
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Yeah I like the change if it's genuine, like they did way back.

Let the guys play the game. Take the refs out of the game more and more
 

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so a defender can jam, hit, grab, pull basically harass a WR all the way down the field, hindering him from running his route the way he wants to, but as long as he doesn't do that when the ball arrives it's ok?
and vice versa, the WR can push, punch collide into a defender to get open as long as he does it in small doses
ok I'm good with that
if they actually let it play out like that, which I doubt.
I don’t think that would be the case because the things you just described would be defensive holding and illegal contact. Not pass interference.
 

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eh...something stinks. So does that mean if a ref blows the call because of his misinterpretation of the play, it cannot be challenged because it was a judgment call?
 

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So this applies to PI, and not to illegal contact or defensive holding calls?

Probably more to uncatchable balls and especially on the sidelines. I don't see it will be much different though. It is still up to the refs.

Or maybe the announcers were misinformed, and it only applies to PS games as not to prolong the games. Most of these penalties happen with players that won't be on the team and happen later in games. So why waste time with it.
 

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Did they make this change since last week? That Tolbert PI shouldn't have been called with the old rules.
 

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This is basically what the rule is anyway. Hopefully it just means they call less of the ticky tack nonsense.
 

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so a defender can jam, hit, grab, pull basically harass a WR all the way down the field, hindering him from running his route the way he wants to, but as long as he doesn't do that when the ball arrives it's ok?
and vice versa, the WR can push, punch collide into a defender to get open as long as he does it in small doses
ok I'm good with that
if they actually let it play out like that, which I doubt.
This example would fall under defensive holding or illegal contact.
 

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During the Eagles Browns game the announcer (not sure who it was I watched 3 minutes on YouTube) said that the refs have been instructed to not call PI either way “unless it gives the player (that committed the contact) a clear advantage”

It sounds pretty good. I like the idea, but giving refs more leeway to judge could also be bad. On the other hand there’s less old refs and the last couple of years have been a little better.
I was wondering when someone might bring this up. I thought they were being very lenient on PI and holding by the offensive line during this preseason.

This gives refs more leeway to not call PI. I think that's a good thing since most PI calls are gifts.
 

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They are asking refs to make judgement calls and this has been a problem with rule changes in the past. I am willing to give it chance before I complain about it too much, but something tells me this will lead to more controversy, not less.

I will say that there are too many PI calls where the ball is clearly uncatchable and the refs threw the flag anyway. The questions is always, would the receiver have had a chance if he was not impeded? Tough question to answer at full speed in a fraction of a second without the benefit of replay.
 

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During the Eagles Browns game the announcer (not sure who it was I watched 3 minutes on YouTube) said that the refs have been instructed to not call PI either way “unless it gives the player (that committed the contact) a clear advantage”

It sounds pretty good. I like the idea, but giving refs more leeway to judge could also be bad. On the other hand there’s less old refs and the last couple of years have been a little better.
Anything that is "open to interpretation" versus a cut/dried standard is only going to result in greater inconsistency from crew to crew, and more bad calls.
 

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During the Eagles Browns game the announcer (not sure who it was I watched 3 minutes on YouTube) said that the refs have been instructed to not call PI either way “unless it gives the player (that committed the contact) a clear advantage”

It sounds pretty good. I like the idea, but giving refs more leeway to judge could also be bad. On the other hand there’s less old refs and the last couple of years have been a little better.
draft kings going to put a little Coin in the Refs pockets for Calls on home games
 

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eh...something stinks. So does that mean if a ref blows the call because of his misinterpretation of the play, it cannot be challenged because it was a judgment call?
I think it means that they may pick up a few flags and say there was no foul. PI call on a ball that is 5 yards over the receivers head is dumb.
 
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