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1. Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois. Perhaps no player is flying up draft boards quite like Liuget. As a junior, few scouts had dissected his game on film until he entered the draft last month. Some had told us that he was a second- or third-round prospect, but after grinding his film we think he could/should be a top-10 pick. He had an outstanding 2010 season, showing great strength and athleticism. For such a big and powerful defensive tackle, he has rare explosiveness off the snap to blow up plays in the backfield by driving offensive linemen backward or by shooting a gap. Defensive tackles Nick Fairley of Auburn and Marcell Dareus of Alabama still rate higher on most teams' draft boards, but Liuget is closing fast and ultimately could be drafted higher than one or both.

2. Tyron Smith, OT, Southern Cal. Here is another underclassman on the cusp of overtaking the seniors at the top of teams' draft boards. Smith (6-4 3/4, 285) is not as tall as Colorado's Nate Solder or Boston College's Anthony Castonzo but is a great athlete with the strength to be a real force at the point of attack. Smith was surprisingly consistent on film, the only offensive lineman we saw block Cal DE Cameron Jordan in 2010. As scouts over-analyze Solder's and Castonzo's practices at the Senior Bowl, Smith could overtake them both in the end.

3. Danny Watkins, G/OT, Baylor. His stock took off at the Senior Bowl. From game film, he was viewed as an athletic tackle who lacked ideal size, strength and athleticism to play left tackle in the NFL. After a week of practice in Mobile, Ala., he showed the athleticism, technique and competitiveness to be a great guard. He played so well inside that he could join the battle to be the first offensive lineman drafted. Although not polished on guard techniques, he does bend his knees well to pass block with good leverage and uses his hands quite well to control defensive tackles. He reminds us a lot of Patriots All-Pro G Logan Mankins, a mid-round tackle who flew up draft boards once moved inside and proved to be a special player.

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1. Nathan Enderle, QB, Idaho. When the 2010 season began, we had him pegged as a "sleeper" because of his good size, strong arm and refined mechanics. However, he struggled greatly at the East-West Shrine practices and game and then again last week at the Texas vs. The Nation workouts. For a QB with his gifts, it's amazing how inaccurate he is throwing the ball. He also failed to go through progressions and make smart decisions in practices or games.

2. Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA; Justin Houston, OLB, Georgia. Personnel men desperate for pass-rush help were excited when these two juniors entered the draft. However, the film on both prospects is quite disappointing. Ayers is a tall and linear linebacker who functions much better going forward than dropping into coverage, and he is an inconsistent pass rusher. On the other hand, Houston is an athletic linebacker with all the physical tools to be great but he doesn't work hard or play with much intensity. Houston really struggles to shed blocks. After hours and hours of film study, both linebackers appear to be mid-round prospects, not the first-rounders once hyped to be.

3. Preston Dial, TE, Alabama. He mostly played fullback in college but came to the Senior Bowl hoping to prove his worth as a tight end/H-back worthy of a third-round pick. He has some receiving skills, but he lacks the explosiveness or speed to make big plays in the passing game. Unless he surprises us at the Combine with a great workout, he will be a late-round pick.


Read more: http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/fee...s-corey-liuget-flying-up-boards#ixzz1DR5eqVnV
 
RS12;3840969 said:
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1. Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois. Perhaps no player is flying up draft boards quite like Liuget. As a junior, few scouts had dissected his game on film until he entered the draft last month. Some had told us that he was a second- or third-round prospect, but after grinding his film we think he could/should be a top-10 pick. He had an outstanding 2010 season, showing great strength and athleticism. For such a big and powerful defensive tackle, he has rare explosiveness off the snap to blow up plays in the backfield by driving offensive linemen backward or by shooting a gap. Defensive tackles Nick Fairley of Auburn and Marcell Dareus of Alabama still rate higher on most teams' draft boards, but Liuget is closing fast and ultimately could be drafted higher than one or both.

2. Tyron Smith, OT, Southern Cal. Here is another underclassman on the cusp of overtaking the seniors at the top of teams' draft boards. Smith (6-4 3/4, 285) is not as tall as Colorado's Nate Solder or Boston College's Anthony Castonzo but is a great athlete with the strength to be a real force at the point of attack. Smith was surprisingly consistent on film, the only offensive lineman we saw block Cal DE Cameron Jordan in 2010. As scouts over-analyze Solder's and Castonzo's practices at the Senior Bowl, Smith could overtake them both in the end.

3. Danny Watkins, G/OT, Baylor. His stock took off at the Senior Bowl. From game film, he was viewed as an athletic tackle who lacked ideal size, strength and athleticism to play left tackle in the NFL. After a week of practice in Mobile, Ala., he showed the athleticism, technique and competitiveness to be a great guard. He played so well inside that he could join the battle to be the first offensive lineman drafted. Although not polished on guard techniques, he does bend his knees well to pass block with good leverage and uses his hands quite well to control defensive tackles. He reminds us a lot of Patriots All-Pro G Logan Mankins, a mid-round tackle who flew up draft boards once moved inside and proved to be a special player.

Falling stock

1. Nathan Enderle, QB, Idaho. When the 2010 season began, we had him pegged as a "sleeper" because of his good size, strong arm and refined mechanics. However, he struggled greatly at the East-West Shrine practices and game and then again last week at the Texas vs. The Nation workouts. For a QB with his gifts, it's amazing how inaccurate he is throwing the ball. He also failed to go through progressions and make smart decisions in practices or games.

2. Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA; Justin Houston, OLB, Georgia. Personnel men desperate for pass-rush help were excited when these two juniors entered the draft. However, the film on both prospects is quite disappointing. Ayers is a tall and linear linebacker who functions much better going forward than dropping into coverage, and he is an inconsistent pass rusher. On the other hand, Houston is an athletic linebacker with all the physical tools to be great but he doesn't work hard or play with much intensity. Houston really struggles to shed blocks. After hours and hours of film study, both linebackers appear to be mid-round prospects, not the first-rounders once hyped to be.

3. Preston Dial, TE, Alabama. He mostly played fullback in college but came to the Senior Bowl hoping to prove his worth as a tight end/H-back worthy of a third-round pick. He has some receiving skills, but he lacks the explosiveness or speed to make big plays in the passing game. Unless he surprises us at the Combine with a great workout, he will be a late-round pick.


Read more: http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/fee...s-corey-liuget-flying-up-boards#ixzz1DR5eqVnV

That's a bold statement. I like it.
 
Love to get Watkins and Smith. I hoping that Smith adds on about 10-15 lbs. by his pro day which probably won't happen. If we could get get Smith after a trade down with the Pats for 17 and 33, and then pick Watkins, I would be happy. I just think with the weapons that we have at the skill position, give Romo time and he will pick you apart.
 
FYI

Rob Rang of CBS Sports has him going 22nd in his latest mock and mentions he could go higher. During a recent taped radio show I did for a Carolina Panthers affiliate they had Rang on with Scott Dickerson who is a former Panthers scout and both shadowed the thoughts about Corey. Rang seemed to think he will go somewhere in te top ahead of Dareus and Dickerson said he thinks he will still be the 3rd DT off the board but will go anywhere from 5-15 and did not seem to think he would get past Minnesota at 12.

He is another young buck, he wont be 21 till late March.
 
RS12;3840969 said:
2. Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA; Justin Houston, OLB, Georgia. Personnel men desperate for pass-rush help were excited when these two juniors entered the draft. However, the film on both prospects is quite disappointing. Ayers is a tall and linear linebacker who functions much better going forward than dropping into coverage, and he is an inconsistent pass rusher. On the other hand, Houston is an athletic linebacker with all the physical tools to be great but he doesn't work hard or play with much intensity. Houston really struggles to shed blocks. After hours and hours of film study, both linebackers appear to be mid-round prospects, not the first-rounders once hyped to be.

I'd pretty much question what film he's been looking at then.
 
SDogo;3841023 said:
FYI

Rob Rang of CBS Sports has him going 22nd in his latest mock and mentions he could go higher. During a recent taped radio show I did for a Carolina Panthers affiliate they had Rang on with Scott Dickerson who is a former Panthers scout and both shadowed the thoughts about Corey. Rang seemed to think he will go somewhere in te top ahead of Dareus and Dickerson said he thinks he will still be the 3rd DT off the board but will go anywhere from 5-15 and did not seem to think he would get past Minnesota at 12.

He is another young buck, he wont be 21 till late March.

I'll do cartwheels if Liuget goes top 10.

That would helpful.
 
Actually the weight smith has at the combine will not be as critical as what he shows at the USC pro day much later. All the scouts will want to see if he has added any weight since the combine and how he looks. Where Smith ends up being drafted is just about all about his weight.
 
SDogo;3841023 said:
FYI

Rob Rang of CBS Sports has him going 22nd in his latest mock and mentions he could go higher. During a recent taped radio show I did for a Carolina Panthers affiliate they had Rang on with Scott Dickerson who is a former Panthers scout and both shadowed the thoughts about Corey. Rang seemed to think he will go somewhere in te top ahead of Dareus and Dickerson said he thinks he will still be the 3rd DT off the board but will go anywhere from 5-15 and did not seem to think he would get past Minnesota at 12.

He is another young buck, he wont be 21 till late March.

My question is, can he manage his weight long term? Just want to make sure he didn't tighten his belt for a season because he was coming out. (like some players in contract years)

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SDogo;3841017 said:
That's a bold statement. I like it.

Hey SDogo, if you remenber, when some footage of Brent, our 7th rounder we got from Illinois as our backup NT, you can see footage of this kid in some of those youtube's.

and all you should have to do is ask our scouts about him, they look at juniors heavy too, then some teams do, also ask brent price about him to, he should know him,
 
I fully agree with him regarding Akeem Ayers. I think he's one of the most overrated players in the draft. Unless he absolutely blows up the combine, I don't think he gets sniffed until the 2nd round.
 
How could some of these guys that haven't played since the season ended have their stock going up or down?
 
TheCount;3841689 said:
How could some of these guys that haven't played since the season ended have their stock going up or down?

Talking heads needs something to talk about.
 
TheCount;3841689 said:
How could some of these guys that haven't played since the season ended have their stock going up or down?

You have a point, but I'm referring strictly what I've seen from Ayers at UCLA the past year.

The article just triggered the thought.
 
TheCount;3841689 said:
How could some of these guys that haven't played since the season ended have their stock going up or down?

It's interesting how that happens...It's even funnier how, by draft time, most people stand exactly where they stood at season's end regarding prospects. The whole process has so many make believe ups and downs...
 
Well the shrine games and stuff do effect players draft positions; some are further more in depth film review of Juniors they did not expect to come out. Then we have the combine followed by pro days.

This happens every year
 

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