Save the Big XII?

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After reading this article,

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsext...id=203&articleid=20110915_203_B1_OLDFAS164035

I started mulling over ideas that would save the Big-XII, while still allowing Texas to keep what their doing with the Longhorn network.

This is what I came up with:

Big XII North:
Boise St.
BYU
Mizzou
Kansas
Kansas St.
Iowa St.

Big XII Texas:
Texas
TCU
Texas Tech
Houston
Baylor
SMU

To me, this is still a very strong football conference. I could think of very legitimate reasons why all of those schools would want to come or stay in a rebuilt Big XII.The King pin would be Texas, they could keep their network and still be playing several natural rivals every year.

Not being from Big XII country myself, I know that there are several Big XII fans on here, so what do you guys think of this idea?
 

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Kolemmitt;4114121 said:
After reading this article,

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsext...id=203&articleid=20110915_203_B1_OLDFAS164035

I started mulling over ideas that would save the Big-XII, while still allowing Texas to keep what their doing with the Longhorn network.

This is what I came up with:

Big XII North:
Boise St.
BYU
Mizzou
Kansas
Kansas St.
Iowa St.

Big XII Texas:
Texas
TCU
Texas Tech
Houston
Baylor
SMU

To me, this is still a very strong football conference. I could think of very legitimate reasons why all of those schools would want to come or stay in a rebuilt Big XII.The King pin would be Texas, they could keep their network and still be playing several natural rivals every year.

Not being from Big XII country myself, I know that there are several Big XII fans on here, so what do you guys think of this idea?


I like your North. I'd like ou and OSU to stay. KSU also has a network up and running. I think Mizzou has one or working to get one.
 

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Add two teams to the Big 12 and four teams to the Big East. Kick the leftovers back down to the FCS and bring in a playoff.
 

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Cythim;4114152 said:
Add two teams to the Big 12 and four teams to the Big East. Kick the leftovers back down to the FCS and bring in a playoff.

Or get rid of all conferences and bring in playoffs so every team has a chance to win a national championship instead of just the team in one of the bloated conferences.
 

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Yeagermeister;4114163 said:
Or get rid of all conferences and bring in playoffs so every team has a chance to win a national championship instead of just the team in one of the bloated conferences.

How would you determine who gets into the playoffs?
 

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Cythim;4114173 said:
How would you determine who gets into the playoffs?

Start with records then strength of schedule

Anything would be better than the BSC
 

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hookemhorns72;4114141 said:
I like your North. I'd like ou and OSU to stay. KSU also has a network up and running. I think Mizzou has one or working to get one.


That would be the best, but based on what I have read lately, it seems very likely that OU and OSU are headed to the Pac-12, so my idea was based on them leaving the Big XII.
 

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Yeagermeister;4114163 said:
Or get rid of all conferences and bring in playoffs so every team has a chance to win a national championship instead of just the team in one of the bloated conferences.


I used to love the old conferences when they actually stood for something. The new conferences that are being created make no historical or geographical sense. That is part of the reason why I like my idea, the Big XII North would be for solid, small state schools, while the Big XII Texas would bring back some of the good old fashioned Texas rivalries.
 

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Kolemmitt;4114195 said:
That would be the best, but based on what I have read lately, it seems very likely that OU and OSU are headed to the Pac-12, so my idea was based on them leaving the Big XII.


So far that is correct. Hopefully before ou leaves, they will work something out to stay.
 

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hookemhorns72;4114207 said:
So far that is correct. Hopefully before ou leaves, they will work something out to stay.

Agreed. I am from the Mountain West area, so I would love to see BYU and Boise get into the Big XII, but most of all I am college football fan that grew up watching the old rivalry games from the SWC and then the Big XII conferences and I hate those old traditions to be lost.
 

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Yeagermeister;4114190 said:
Start with records then strength of schedule

Anything would be better than the BSC

There are too many teams for that to work and the snub list would be huge. If you have six conferences or even eight you can take the conference champions and have a three week playoff format that is better than the BCS. Winning would be the only thing that matters, no voting, no style points and the non-conference games wouldn't factor so we would see more big games like LSU/Oregon.
 

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Kolemmitt;4114211 said:
Agreed. I am from the Mountain West area, so I would love to see BYU and Boise get into the Big XII, but most of all I am college football fan that grew up watching the old rivalry games from the SWC and then the Big XII conferences and I hate those old traditions to be lost.



Boise would be a great addition! BYU wouldn't be bad. If ou was to leave I hope they could keep the Red River Rivalry intact and around the Texas State Fair.
 

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hookemhorns72;4114249 said:
Boise would be a great addition! BYU wouldn't be bad. If ou was to leave I hope they could keep the Red River Rivalry intact and around the Texas State Fair.

I think the RRR is worth too much to both schools and the metroplex to get rid of it. Arkansas vs TAMU is rumored to be worth $5 million a year for each school so the RRR has to at least match that.
 

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hookemhorns72;4114249 said:
Boise would be a great addition! BYU wouldn't be bad. If ou was to leave I hope they could keep the Red River Rivalry intact and around the Texas State Fair.


Losing the Red River Rivalry would be awful. Losing the Nebraska/Ok game was bad enough.
 

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Cythim;4114262 said:
I think the RRR is worth too much to both schools and the metroplex to get rid of it. Arkansas vs TAMU is rumored to be worth $5 million a year for each school so the RRR has to at least match that.


It's bad enough that it sounds like the traditional thanksgiving night game won't be played! I hate to lose y'all!
 

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Kolemmitt;4114328 said:
Losing the Red River Rivalry would be awful. Losing the Nebraska/Ok game was bad enough.


It appears that tradition only matters to fans 10 years of age and older.
 

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Kolemmitt;4114121 said:
After reading this article,

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsext...id=203&articleid=20110915_203_B1_OLDFAS164035

I started mulling over ideas that would save the Big-XII, while still allowing Texas to keep what their doing with the Longhorn network.

This is what I came up with:

Big XII North:
Boise St.
BYU
Mizzou
Kansas
Kansas St.
Iowa St.

Big XII Texas:
Texas
TCU
Texas Tech
Houston
Baylor
SMU

To me, this is still a very strong football conference. I could think of very legitimate reasons why all of those schools would want to come or stay in a rebuilt Big XII.The King pin would be Texas, they could keep their network and still be playing several natural rivals every year.

Not being from Big XII country myself, I know that there are several Big XII fans on here, so what do you guys think of this idea?

If OU and OSU leave the Big 12 is dead what you have listed there is a terrible conference that will be dominated by Texas and everyone will be at Texas whim
 

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Kangaroo;4114381 said:
If OU and OSU leave the Big 12 is dead what you have listed there is a terrible conference that will be dominated by Texas and everyone will be at Texas whim

Boise State and BYU can hold their own. I posted something very similar to this a few days ago in another thread. My idea was to combine the MW and the Big12. I think you might as well go with 16 teams here. 6 and 7 doesn't really match. Should try to bring in TCU also.
 

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Yeagermeister;4114190 said:
Start with records then strength of schedule

Anything would be better than the BSC

Not anything. A return to the old system would be worse than the current BCS.
 

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I would like to see OU, Texas, OSU and Boise/BYU in the Big 10.
 
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