Sean Payton implicated in alleged Vicodin theft at Saints facility

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Sean Payton implicated in alleged Vicodin theft at Saints facility
Posted by Mike Florio on May 1, 2010 12:23 PM ET
On Friday, former Saints director of security Geoffrey Santini sued the team for constructive discharge. He alleges that G.M. Mickey Loomis attempted to cover up evidence that Vicodin was being stolen from the team drug locker by two senior staff members.

The lawsuit does not name the two senior staff members. Per the initial filing, Saints trainer Scottie Patton told Santini that one of the unnamed employees has a "painful medical condition," and that the other one does not.

Based on extensive discussions with multiple sources having knowledge of the situation but who have requested anonymity given the sensitive nature of the case, the two unnamed senior staff members are assistant head coach/linebackers coach Joe Vitt and head coach Sean Payton.

Keep in mind that these are only allegations. To date, no proof has been introduced linking either man to the alleged theft, unauthorized use, or abuse of Vicodin from the Saints' drug locker. It is our understanding that the matter has been referred to local federal authorities, and that the matter has been investigated. We don't know whether the investigation has been concluded, or whether it remains active.

Per our sources, Vitt is the staff member with the painful medical condition. Which means that Payton is the staff member who, based on the information provided by Patton to Santini, does not have a painful medical condition.

The Saints declined comment on the matter. Reach by e-mail, V.P. of communications Greg Bensel forwarded his statement from Friday, which initially was given to the New Orleans Times-Picayune. "I will not have any other comment nor will I be releasing these names," Bensel told us.

(Here is Bensel's statement from Friday: "A former employee who resigned just before the 2009 regular season threatened to go public with these unfounded charges unless we agreed to pay him an exorbitant sum of money. We refused and now he has gone public. We will aggressively defend these false allegations in court. We will not have any further comment on this matter at this time. Rather we look forward to welcoming our rookie players and want our focus to be on continuing our preparations for the 2010 Football Season and defending our title.")

We've been advised that settlement discussions indeed occurred before the suit was filed, but that an agreement (obviously) was not reached. The lawsuit filing indicates that formal service of the documents has not yet been requested. Once service occurs, the Saints will have a finite period of time within which to respond. Given that the claims implicate federal drug laws, it's possible that the team will remove the lawsuit from Louisiana state court to federal court.

Typically, federal court provides a more level playing field for business interests. Given the extent to which the Saints are locally beloved, however, Santini and his lawyer could have a hard time finding jurors in either the state or federal setting who will be capable of overlooking the fleur-de-lis that has been tattooed onto their souls.
 

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Lawsuit against Saints alleges Loomis tried to cover up thefts of Vicodin
Posted by Mike Florio on April 30, 2010 11:55 PM ET
As the New Orleans Saints continue to celebrate their first-ever Super Bowl win, they're facing a challenge not on the field, but in a court of law.

And the lawsuit contains some strong allegations.

The New Orleans Times-Picayune reports that Geoffrey Santini, the team's former Director of Security, claims that he was "constructively discharged" (i.e., compelled to quit) after G.M. Mickey Loomis allegedly attempted to cover up details relating to the theft of Vicodin tablets by two unnamed senior staff members.

The final straw apparently came when Loomis allegedly misrepresented to owner Tom Benson in August 2009 the fact that both of the unnamed employees who had been stealing the pills had medical reasons for taking Vicodin, a potent -- and addictive -- painkiller. Santini alleges that only one of the two employees had a medical condition requiring the medication.

After communicating his intent to resign, Santini allegedly told Loomis that "the continuing efforts to misrepresent the state of affairs concerning the distribution and the entire pattern of events . . . made it reasonably impossible for [Santini] to continue his employment with the Saints."

The Saints reject Santini's claims. "A former employee who resigned just before the 2009 regular season threatened to go public with these unfounded charges unless we agreed to pay him an exorbitant sum of money," Saints V.P. of communications Greg Bensel told the Times-Picayune. "We refused, and now he has gone public. We will aggressively defend these false allegations in court."

Time will tell whether the allegations are indeed false. At one point, federal authorities were advised of the Vicodin thefts. It's unknown whether and to what extent a criminal investigation occurred. If it did, and if Santini's allegations regarding Loomis are accurate, the investigation presumably would have explored his role in allegedly attempting to cover up the situation.
 

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In other news, Brett Favre was seen crossing the Mississippi/Louisiana border...
 

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cowboyjoe;3385419 said:
Sean Payton implicated in alleged Vicodin theft at Saints facility
Posted by Mike Florio on May 1, 2010 12:23 PM ET
On Friday, former Saints director of security Geoffrey Santini sued the team for constructive discharge. He alleges that G.M. Mickey Loomis attempted to cover up evidence that Vicodin was being stolen from the team drug locker by two senior staff members.

The lawsuit does not name the two senior staff members. Per the initial filing, Saints trainer Scottie Patton told Santini that one of the unnamed employees has a "painful medical condition," and that the other one does not.

Based on extensive discussions with multiple sources having knowledge of the situation but who have requested anonymity given the sensitive nature of the case, the two unnamed senior staff members are assistant head coach/linebackers coach Joe Vitt and head coach Sean Payton.

Keep in mind that these are only allegations. To date, no proof has been introduced linking either man to the alleged theft, unauthorized use, or abuse of Vicodin from the Saints' drug locker. It is our understanding that the matter has been referred to local federal authorities, and that the matter has been investigated. We don't know whether the investigation has been concluded, or whether it remains active.

Per our sources, Vitt is the staff member with the painful medical condition. Which means that Payton is the staff member who, based on the information provided by Patton to Santini, does not have a painful medical condition.

The Saints declined comment on the matter. Reach by e-mail, V.P. of communications Greg Bensel forwarded his statement from Friday, which initially was given to the New Orleans Times-Picayune. "I will not have any other comment nor will I be releasing these names," Bensel told us.

(Here is Bensel's statement from Friday: "A former employee who resigned just before the 2009 regular season threatened to go public with these unfounded charges unless we agreed to pay him an exorbitant sum of money. We refused and now he has gone public. We will aggressively defend these false allegations in court. We will not have any further comment on this matter at this time. Rather we look forward to welcoming our rookie players and want our focus to be on continuing our preparations for the 2010 Football Season and defending our title.")

We've been advised that settlement discussions indeed occurred before the suit was filed, but that an agreement (obviously) was not reached. The lawsuit filing indicates that formal service of the documents has not yet been requested. Once service occurs, the Saints will have a finite period of time within which to respond. Given that the claims implicate federal drug laws, it's possible that the team will remove the lawsuit from Louisiana state court to federal court.

Typically, federal court provides a more level playing field for business interests. Given the extent to which the Saints are locally beloved, however, Santini and his lawyer could have a hard time finding jurors in either the state or federal setting who will be capable of overlooking the fleur-de-lis that has been tattooed onto their souls.

Sean Payton can do no wrong down there at this point. Doubt anything comes of it.
 

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RS12;3385435 said:
Sean Payton can do no wrong down there at this point. Doubt anything comes of it.

not unless the commissioner goodell takes action, like it says cover up at start and trying to hide it, so now commissioner will step in
 

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DallasEast;3385434 said:
In other news, Brett Favre was seen crossing the Mississippi/Louisiana border...

Yeah that ankle must be just bad enough for Favre to justify the need for self medication.


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RS12;3385435 said:
Sean Payton can do no wrong down there at this point. Doubt anything comes of it.

If he got caught doing something and they think they can prove it, something may come out of it.
 

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If Payton is guilty it will be interesting to see what punishment Goodell metes out.

Wade Wilson got a 4 game suspension for taking HGH because coaches have to be held to a higher standard.

Bellicheat, cheated his *** off even after all teams received a letter clarifying the rules and received ZERO suspension.

Now allegedly Payton steals and takes Vicoden. What punishment will he get if he's guilty?
 

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LeonDixson;3385495 said:
If Payton is guilty it will be interesting to see what punishment Goodell metes out.

Wade Wilson got a 4 game suspension for taking HGH because coaches have to be held to a higher standard.

Bellicheat, cheated his *** off even after all teams received a letter clarifying the rules and received ZERO suspension.

Now allegedly Payton steals and takes Vicoden. What punishment will he get if he's guilty?

IMO, there are implied legal ramifications that are much worse than anything Goodell would dish out.
 

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LeonDixson;3385495 said:
If Payton is guilty it will be interesting to see what punishment Goodell metes out.

Wade Wilson got a 4 game suspension for taking HGH because coaches have to be held to a higher standard.

Bellicheat, cheated his *** off even after all teams received a letter clarifying the rules and received ZERO suspension.

Now allegedly Payton steals and takes Vicoden. What punishment will he get if he's guilty?

I'd assume there would be some criminal chargers too.

Controlled substance. He should be prosecuted like any other person caught with it.

And I wouldn't bank on him getting the book thrown at him from Goodell. Likely they'd want to help him and use him as a poster boy for drug addiction. Cause this is "clean" drug addiction you know. This isn't black tar heroine or meth, this is being dependent after using them legally. Or at least that's how I think they'd like to play it.
 

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I don't see how they can prove it, though. It's one [strike]guy's[/strike] ex-employee's word against the headcoach & FO of the Super Bowl champs.

Unless there is some good evidence, I don't see this going anywhere.

If it can be proven Godell better impose more than a 4 game suspension, imo.
 

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Vicodin is totally awesome!!:D

I hated it and took it for 3 days after my ankle surgery I hated feeling stoned out of my mine so I quit and dealt with the pain and went to ibuprofen to help take the edge off instead.
 

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LeonDixson;3385495 said:
If Payton is guilty it will be interesting to see what punishment Goodell metes out.

Wade Wilson got a 4 game suspension for taking HGH because coaches have to be held to a higher standard.

Bellicheat, cheated his *** off even after all teams received a letter clarifying the rules and received ZERO suspension.

Now allegedly Payton steals and takes Vicoden. What punishment will he get if he's guilty?

In possession of a controlled substance with out proper authorization. Lots of laws and rules around this stuff and hospitals have to deal with it a lot
 

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Watching the commish on this one. Not making the league look very good Sean. First you steal Jerrys wine now this?:eek:
 

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The Saints are claiming that the former employee was/is trying to extort them. And Florio guys? Everybody knows he's one of the least credible media figures out there, not to mention he has a serious grudge against the Saints.:mad: I just hope we don't see any indictments in the court of public opinion before all the facts come to light.
 

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Saints Lurker;3385642 said:
The Saints are claiming that the former employee was/is trying to extort them. And Florio guys? Everybody knows he's one of the least credible media figures out there, not to mention he has a serious grudge against the Saints.:mad: I just hope we don't see any indictments in the court of public opinion before all the facts come to light.
You don't watch ESPN very often, do you? :)

Tell all of your fellow fans to be on the lookout for a stiff looking, moustache wearing guy dressed a blue suit loitering around Saints headquarters. He's trouble, but if some guy is yelling, "YOU'RE A HACK!!!" at him, don't worry. Everything will work itself out JUST fine. :cool:
 

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Saints Lurker;3385642 said:
The Saints are claiming that the former employee was/is trying to extort them. And Florio guys? Everybody knows he's one of the least credible media figures out there, not to mention he has a serious grudge against the Saints.:mad: I just hope we don't see any indictments in the court of public opinion before all the facts come to light.

All Florio did was report the presence of the lawsuit, and the people alleged to have been implicated by the former employee. Hardly see how he did anything wrong here, or showed any anti-Saint bias. He didn't create this lawsuit.
 
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