Some offseason/draft thoughts

[darthseinfeld]

- As been stated many times, the emphasis the offseason seams to be on skill players. At 26, I don't think value will match up with that outside of TE. I think Robinson and Gibbs will be gone, no other HB is worth 26. Hyatt I believe will be the top WR available. He would be worth that pick, but I think they would look for more value than him at 26. Gun to my head and forced to bet money on a skill position being #26 it would be TE.

- If the rumors are true and they are planning on bringing Tyron Smith back, then I dont see a meaningful (2023 meaningfull) addition to the offensive line. Especially if Peters is back as well. Tyler likely plays at LG, and Peters likely starts at RT until Steele is ready. I don't see them spending a 1st or 2nd round pick on a player unlikely to start. 3rd and beyond, I can see them looking at someone to ultimately take over at LG when Tyler takes over LT permanently

- As of right now, I think if they go defense at 26, its most likely Deonte Banks. Fits the mold of a Quinn CB and is good enough right to play well as our 3rd CB. I think Porter is going to be a major for them. I think they will be high enough on him that they may consider a trade up if he gets into the 20's.

-Not a ton on DL in their combine meetings, so this could be a disappointing draft for those wanting to add talent there. Will be interesting to see if the official visits are any different. We are pretty thin at DT. I believe they are pumping Gallimore up to move him. He got healthy inactives during the season. They tried to trade him at the deadline. And as an alligator arm DT he really doesnt fit Quinns line.

- I think they draft a QB sometime in day 3, and within the top 200. I could even see Hooker in the 3rd. They have shown alot of interest in QB's. Max Duggan with one of the comp picks makes alot of sense. I think Rush will be back as the #2

- I think they stay in house at S if Wilson leaves. I think Mukuamu takes most of his responsibilities. There are some similarlies in that they both have experience at CB with Wilson playing slot CB(soph year I think) and Mukuamu being SC's number 2 opposite Horn. Very different players though, I dont think Mukuamu will be much of a downhill player. However him manning up TE's from that SS position would be a major asset. People have mentioned Bell's name, but I think he is more like to be depth/ST and potential replacement for Kearse in 2024.

 

[Cowboyny]

Safety is a sneaky need, not only is Wilson a fa, but both Kearse/Hooker are the following season. They talked to a ton of safety prospects at the combine, it wouldn't surprise me if we see a safety drafted higher then expected.

 

[RS12]

Pretty spot on Darth. I have been skill all off season but the thing about Banks is CBs on rookie deals if the player is good are amongst the bigger bargains available. Look at what good corners on second contracts or FA CBs make.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Safety is a sneaky need, not only is Wilson a fa, but both Kearse/Hooker are the following season. They talked to a ton of safety prospects at the combine, it wouldn't surprise me if we see a safety drafted higher then expected.

We will see. I dont see them looking to hard at it this. If a guy they really is good value, I can see them taking him. This class is mediocre though. However Quinn usues the position in ways previous coaches havent

 

[tm1119]

We MIGHT be able to get a late 7th round pick for Gallimore…likely he’s a camp cut that ends up on someone else’s practice squad.

Or they continue to ignore the DT spot and he makes the roster by default

And if Wilson leaves we absolutely need another S. No way we can go into the season thinking Bell is the stater, need at least legit competition to compete for the SS spot.

 

[Cowboyny]

We will see. I dont see them looking to hard at it this. If a guy they really is good value, I can see them taking him. This class is mediocre though. However Quinn usues the position in ways previous coaches havent

I have it pegged for a day 3 pick, but it would depend on who falls. Heard they like Dean III from Florida, he is the type I can see them taking on day 3.

 

[Cowboyny]

Pretty spot on Darth. I have been skill all off season but the thing about Banks is CBs on rookie deals if the player is good are amongst the bigger bargains available. Look at what good corners on second contracts or FA CBs make.

Think a corner will be the pick if one of those top 4 are there, it matches value and need.

 

[CowboyoWales]

We will see. I dont see them looking to hard at it this. If a guy they really is good value, I can see them taking him. This class is mediocre though. However Quinn usues the position in ways previous coaches havent

It could be that we don't agree with evaluation Wilson and his agent have....a bit like Kearse last year, we may see him come back, otherwise look for Mukuamu and see how Bell improves.

 

[darthseinfeld]

We MIGHT be able to get a late 7th round pick for Gallimore…likely he’s a camp cut that ends up on someone else’s practice squad.

Or they continue to ignore the DT spot and he makes the roster by default

And if Wilson leaves we absolutely need another S. No way we can go into the season thinking Bell is the stater, need at least legit competition to compete for the SS spot.

Id take a 7th for Gallimore at this point. Another dart to throw

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

- I think they draft a QB sometime in day 3, and within the top 200. I could even see Hooker in the 3rd. They have shown alot of interest in QB's. Max Duggan with one of the comp picks makes alot of sense. I think Rush will be back as the #2

- I think they stay in house at S if Wilson leaves. I think Mukuamu takes most of his responsibilities. There are some similarlies in that they both have experience at CB with Wilson playing slot CB(soph year I think) and Mukuamu being SC's number 2 opposite Horn. Very different players though, I dont think Mukuamu will be much of a downhill player. However him manning up TE's from that SS position would be a major asset. People have mentioned Bell's name, but I think he is more like to be depth/ST and potential replacement for Kearse in 2024.

Nice write-up.

I think the following two paragraphs are especially on-point.

 

[RandyOh]

Id take a 7th for Gallimore at this point. Another dart to throw

Same I’ll take a late pick or trade him straight up for another player who needs a change of scenery.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Nice write-up.

I think the following two paragraphs are especially on-point.

@Aerolithe_Lion made an interesting comparison with regards to Hooker. He compared it the Eagles taking Hurts in 2020. Hooker is a day 2 guy to me. Could see him as a 2nd rounder. It would be a tough pill to swallow taking what may amount to a backup QB that high, but it gives you an option if Dak isnt your guy long term. Im not that concerned with Hookers age. Some QB's dont hit their prime until 30

 

[xwalker]

- As been stated many times, the emphasis the offseason seams to be on skill players. At 26, I don't think value will match up with that outside of TE. I think Robinson and Gibbs will be gone, no other HB is worth 26. Hyatt I believe will be the top WR available. He would be worth that pick, but I think they would look for more value than him at 26. Gun to my head and forced to bet money on a skill position being #26 it would be TE.

- If the rumors are true and they are planning on bringing Tyron Smith back, then I dont see a meaningful (2023 meaningfull) addition to the offensive line. Especially if Peters is back as well. Tyler likely plays at LG, and Peters likely starts at RT until Steele is ready. I don't see them spending a 1st or 2nd round pick on a player unlikely to start. 3rd and beyond, I can see them looking at someone to ultimately take over at LG when Tyler takes over LT permanently

- As of right now, I think if they go defense at 26, its most likely Deonte Banks. Fits the mold of a Quinn CB and is good enough right to play well as our 3rd CB. I think Porter is going to be a major for them. I think they will be high enough on him that they may consider a trade up if he gets into the 20's.

-Not a ton on DL in their combine meetings, so this could be a disappointing draft for those wanting to add talent there. Will be interesting to see if the official visits are any different. We are pretty thin at DT. I believe they are pumping Gallimore up to move him. He got healthy inactives during the season. They tried to trade him at the deadline. And as an alligator arm DT he really doesnt fit Quinns line.

- I think they draft a QB sometime in day 3, and within the top 200. I could even see Hooker in the 3rd. They have shown alot of interest in QB's. Max Duggan with one of the comp picks makes alot of sense. I think Rush will be back as the #2

- I think they stay in house at S if Wilson leaves. I think Mukuamu takes most of his responsibilities. There are some similarlies in that they both have experience at CB with Wilson playing slot CB(soph year I think) and Mukuamu being SC's number 2 opposite Horn. Very different players though, I dont think Mukuamu will be much of a downhill player. However him manning up TE's from that SS position would be a major asset. People have mentioned Bell's name, but I think he is more like to be depth/ST and potential replacement for Kearse in 2024.

Good post!

I like CB Banks. I don't see much difference between him and the top 3 in terms of probability of success in the NFL.

Agree that Porter is likely one of their top targets in this draft.

I don't know if Gibbs will be gone but I don't think the Cowboys would draft him. If Bijan is available at #26 I think the Cowboys would try to trade down with a team that really really wanted him. Stephen Jones and McClay are going more and more to analytics in terms of cap management. It is obvious now that good free agent RBs are cheap relative to many other positions.

Agree on OL. If Tyron and Peters are on the roster and Steele expected to be ready for camp (per SJ), then it's not a need.

Having said that, they do value OL and a player like B.Jones looks exactly like their type of OLineman. A little raw technique wise but an terrific physical speciman (The definition of Tyler Smith lash year). Jones is physically more talented than the top rated OTs.

DT looks good for #58. The 1tech types go later in the modern era.

I was happy when Gallimore was a healthy scratch late last season but he was back to playing significant snaps the next game. He is just not good vs the run and just ok as a pass rusher. Hill was better. Maybe on a team with a great 1tech, Gallimore could be OK next to that player as a 5th DT but the Cowboys are not one of those teams.

QB Hooker's game footage looks really good to me. To me he looks better than Jalen Hurts in college... He throws a pretty pass. A.Richarson might gave a bigger arm but his passes are often ugly in the air.

Does Duggan have enough upside to make it worth developing him? For developmental type players I like them to have high upsides even if their floor is lower.

Mukuamu looks ideal to replace Wilson. I think his upside is a little higher than Wilson. He'll be better in coverage and also as good in run defense.

Safety Bell did play some snaps while games were still contested (i.e. Not just snaps at the end of blowouts).

I think they should try Jabril Cox as a backup to Kearse in that hybrid Safety/LB role. I'm skeptical that Jabril will ever play significant snaps at LB.

I normally moan when people suggest moving players between CB and Safety; However, Nahshon Wright is a good tackler and has good awareness. He just struggles at the point the ball arrives. His timing just seems to be a little off at CB.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Good post!

I like CB Banks. I don't see much difference between him and the top 3 in terms of probability of success in the NFL.

Agree that Porter is likely one of their top targets in this draft.

I don't know if Gibbs will be gone but I don't think the Cowboys would draft him. If Bijan is available at #26 I think the Cowboys would try to trade down with a team that really really wanted him. Stephen Jones and McClay are going more and more to analytics in terms of cap management. It is obvious now that good free agent RBs are cheap relative to many other positions.

Agree on OL. If Tyron and Peters are on the roster and Steele expected to be ready for camp (per SJ), then it's not a need.

Having said that, they do value OL and a player like B.Jones looks exactly like their type of OLineman. A little raw technique wise but an terrific physical speciman (The definition of Tyler Smith lash year). Jones is physically more talented than the top rated OTs.

DT looks good for #58. The 1tech types go later in the modern era.

I was happy when Gallimore was a healthy scratch late last season but he was back to playing significant snaps the next game. He is just not good vs the run and just ok as a pass rusher. Hill was better. Maybe on a team with a great 1tech, Gallimore could be OK next to that player as a 5th DT but the Cowboys are not one of those teams.

QB Hooker's game footage looks really good to me. To me he looks better than Jalen Hurts in college... He throws a pretty pass. A.Richarson might gave a bigger arm but his passes are often ugly in the air.

Does Duggan have enough upside to make it worth developing him? For developmental type players I like them to have high upsides even if their floor is lower.

Mukuamu looks ideal to replace Wilson. I think his upside is a little higher than Wilson. He'll be better in coverage and also as good in run defense.

Safety Bell did play some snaps while games were still contested (i.e. Not just snaps at the end of blowouts).

I think they should try Jabril Cox as a backup to Kearse in that hybrid Safety/LB role. I'm skeptical that Jabril will ever play significant snaps at LB.

I normally moan when people suggest moving players between CB and Safety; However, Nahshon Wright is a good tackler and has good awareness. He just struggles at the point the ball arrives. His timing just seems to be a little off at CB.

If a guy like Broderick Jones is there, you sprint to the podium.

Bell, I think he is a potential Kearse replacement in 2024. Similar type player. Downhill, run support S. I could see getting more snaps if Wilson leaves, but I think Mukuamu gets the lions share

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

@Aerolithe_Lion made an interesting comparison with regards to Hooker. He compared it the Eagles taking Hurts in 2020. Hooker is a day 2 guy to me. Could see him as a 2nd rounder. It would be a tough pill to swallow taking what may amount to a backup QB that high, but it gives you an option if Dak isnt your guy long term. Im not that concerned with Hookers age. Some QB's dont hit their prime until 30

Backup Qb is a top 10 position on the roster, especially when your starter has missed 17 of the last 48 games

 

[Pass2Run]

I have it pegged for a day 3 pick, but it would depend on who falls. Heard they like Dean III from Florida, he is the type I can see them taking on day 3.

Dean III is nice, but I actually like Torrence the safety..

 

[Pass2Run]

I also don't think Duggan is the QB. I think it's Hall, maybe 4th or after.

 

[Cowboyny]

Dean III is nice, but I actually like Torrence the safety..

Really believe we are going to draft one early on day 3, it's an important need to address. However, we do have some in house candidates.

 

[JBS]

I agree w you on absolutely everything except one thing

Gibbs will not go top 25. He also will not go top 26 (assuming Dallas keeps the pick)

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I also don't think Duggan is the QB. I think it's Hall, maybe 4th or after.

I like the raw skills of Jaren Hall. He’d be an interesting one to develop.