Some small school sleepers to target...

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In the late rounds, or as undrafted rookie free agents... these are rated in order of their approximate draft grade right now, as I can determine it:

Vincent Redd 6-6 260 OLB Liberty 4.55 sec. 40
Brandon Carr 6-1 206 CB/KR Grand Valley St. 4.45 sec. 40
Shane Simmons 6-1 235 OLB W. Washington 4.6 sec. 40
Andy Studebaker 6-3 250 OLB/DE Wheaton 4.55 sec. 40
Danny Woodhead 5-8 195 RB/KR Chadron St. 4.4 sec. 40

I could see any one of these five possibly being drafted in the 6th or 7th round range, but that's a best case scenario for each...

Michael Eubanks 5-11 210 SS Delta St. 4.55 sec. 40
Brian Witherspoon 5-10 175 CB/KR Stillman 4.3 sec. 40
Brandon Barnes 6-2 325 OG Grand Valley St. 5.05 sec. 40
Pat Schwenke 6-5 320 OG/OT W. Texas A&M 5.25 sec. 40
Daniel Polk 6-1 205 WR (QB) Midwestern St. 4.55 sec. 40
Tywain Myles 6-2 310 DT Tarleton St. 4.9 sec. 40
Cary Williams 6-1 186 CB/KR Washburn 4.45 sec. 40
Bryan Wilson 6-2 250 LB Morgan St. 4.55 sec. 40
Lorenzo Breland 6-2 310 C/OG Jackson St. 5.25 sec. 40

Of this list of 14 prospects, I particularly like CB-KR Brandon Carr, RB-KR Danny Woodhead, SS Michael Eubanks, OG Brandon Barnes, OG-OT Pat Schwenke, WR Daniel Polk and C-OG Lorenzo Breland... Polk sounds a lot like Patrick Crayton coming out of college, he's making a conversion from QB; in 2007 he was the only passer in college ball to pass for 2000 yards and rush for 1000... he has 44 career passing TDs, 38 career rushing TDs... he was also an invitee to the recent "Dallas Day", which is where I first learned about him (much like I did Crayton a few years back), so we know the Boys have an eye on him...
 

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RB Tim Hightower needs to be on that list. Div II RB for the Richmond Spiders.

Tim Hightower, Richmond
Height: 6-0. Weight: 226.
Projected 40 Time: 4.52.
1,924 Yards 5.9 Avg 20 TDs 32 Rec 228 Yards 3 TDs
 

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Hailmary;2037013 said:
Are these combine or personal workout numbers?


Very few of the players listed were invited to the combine... for most of the more obscure players, the only numbers I could find were on the NFL Draft Scout website...
 

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Xavier Omon (RB)

First collegiate player to rush for over 1,500 every season over 4 years.
 

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Ricky Santos - UNH QB

I was at Bellingham High baseball field for son's practice and talked to someone wired in to Santos. There are more than a few teams very interested in drafting him day 2 as a Romo like developmental QB.
 

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...didn't see that one coming. Hey Nors, maybe you could get a santos tattoo right next to this one...

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Nors;2038471 said:
Ricky Santos - UNH QB

I was at Bellingham High baseball field for son's practice and talked to someone wired in to Santos. There are more than a few teams very interested in drafting him day 2 as a Romo like developmental QB.

Santos sucks...

He was unimpressive at the Hula Bowl (his arm strength was criticized), he wasn't invited to the Combine... he's just 6-1, and in spite of all your claims about his supposedly superior speed, has timed in the 4.85-4.9 second range in the 40... this is subpar for a QB...

One scouting report, describing the offense he ran in college (where he operated almost exclusively out the shotgun), said he "is really only familiar with crossing patterns and flare routes"...

NFL Draft Scout has him rated the 31st best QB in this class, the 540th player overall... that's clearly not a draftable grade... Consensus Draft Services rates him a "priority UDFA"... NFL Draft Countdown rates him the 21st best QB in this class...

Undersized, slow, noodle arm, sloppy mechanics, low level of competition, will need to learn a pro-style offense... it's about time you got off his jock, Nors...
 

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noodle arm, ouch

that was what Hostile said about Romo back in what - 2004/05! LOL

Santos like Romo has transitional issues as mostly shotgun QB's in college.

Sppeed? What is Romo's 40? HECK WHAT IS BRADY'S?Santos is as shifty if not a better natural runner than Romo.

Cannon arm? Nope - but accurate and can throw on the run.

Stop reading others, I have seen the kid play and like Romo, Montana, Brady -

many miss the boat. Santos will play in NFL.
 

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silverbear;2038557 said:
Santos sucks...

He was unimpressive at the Hula Bowl (his arm strength was criticized), he wasn't invited to the Combine... he's just 6-1, and in spite of all your claims about his supposedly superior speed, has timed in the 4.85-4.9 second range in the 40... this is subpar for a QB...

One scouting report, describing the offense he ran in college (where he operated almost exclusively out the shotgun), said he "is really only familiar with crossing patterns and flare routes"...

NFL Draft Scout has him rated the 31st best QB in this class, the 540th player overall... that's clearly not a draftable grade... Consensus Draft Services rates him a "priority UDFA"... NFL Draft Countdown rates him the 21st best QB in this class...

Undersized, slow, noodle arm, sloppy mechanics, low level of competition, will need to learn a pro-style offense... it's about time you got off his jock, Nors...



Hula Bowl News & Press
East stars have the right moves in Hula Bowl
(Honolulu (AP)) - Marshall's Bernard Morris threw for 172 yards and a touchdown in the first half to lead the Aina (East) to a 38-7 victory over the Kai (West) on Saturday in the 62nd Hula Bowl.

New Hampshire's Ricky Santos was 10 of 16 for 169 passing yards, and Tulsa's Paul Smith added 47 yards passing and ran for two short touchdowns for the Aina, which piled up 519 yards of total offense.
 

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Nors;2038590 said:
Hula Bowl News & Press
East stars have the right moves in Hula Bowl
(Honolulu (AP)) - Marshall's Bernard Morris threw for 172 yards and a touchdown in the first half to lead the Aina (East) to a 38-7 victory over the Kai (West) on Saturday in the 62nd Hula Bowl.

New Hampshire's Ricky Santos was 10 of 16 for 169 passing yards, and Tulsa's Paul Smith added 47 yards passing and ran for two short touchdowns for the Aina, which piled up 519 yards of total offense.

169 yards passing in that game made him the 3rd most productive passer in the game... IOW, playing in a game where the rules are set up to favor the QB (no blitzing, that sort of thing), his numbers were quite pedestrian...

Besides, the players make their biggest impact at the practices for these games, not the games themselves, and it's there that we started reading that the scouts saw a decided lack of arm strength from Santos...

But I suspect you know that, given that you have not challenged the scouting report that I offered on him... you're gonna feel mighty silly when (not if) the object of your unnatural lust winds up playing in the Arena League-- as a backup...
 

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Nors;2038588 said:
noodle arm, ouch

Ouch, indeed... truth hurts, doesn't it??

Sppeed? What is Romo's 40?

Better than the 4.9 that Ricky runs... when you were trying to tell us that he had plus speed... now, your tune has changed, hasn't it?? Now, it's "speed doesn't matter for a QB"... strange how it mattered when you thought that Ricky was fast, LOL...

Santos is as shifty if not a better natural runner than Romo.

Santos will not be a threat to run in the NFL, if he ever gets that far... he only posed a bit of a running threat in college because he was playing at a low level of competition, and he didn't face many swift defenders, as he will in the NFL...

Cannon arm? Nope - but accurate and can throw on the run.

Noodle arm, period... that's why he won't get drafted... that, and the fact that he's SMALL by NFL standards, and not a threat to run, and possessed of shaky mechanics...

I have seen the kid play and

And you're clueless... you've been telling us since the start of the season that your hero would be a factor in this draft, and now it's pretty clear that he's a 7th rounder/undrafted rookie free agent type... IOW, a fringe prospect, at best...

Santos will play in NFL.

Santos is a lot more likely to wind up the backup for the Dallas Desperados, LOL...

Get over it, Nors, you saddled up a nag... Santos sucks... he's never gonna do anything in the NFL...

And of course, your mindless pimping of the guy is only gonna wind up to damage your already all-but-nonexistent credibility re: the draft even more...
 

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lol this is like the WNBA trying to compete with the NBA we all know that 99.9 chance in favor of the NBA. For these small time school kids theres a 99.9 percent chance of failure.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2038624 said:
lol this is like the WNBA trying to compete with the NBA we all know that 99.9 chance in favor of the NBA. For these small time school kids theres a 99.9 percent chance of failure.

He's right,

Signed Walter Payton, Jerry Rice, Tony Romo
 

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Nors;2039755 said:
He's right,

Signed Walter Payton, Jerry Rice, Tony Romo

yea lets thru tony romo in the same category as Hall of famers.

Barry Sanders
Emmitt Smith
Curtis Martin
Marshal Faulk

Micheal Irvin
Chris Carter
Lynn Swann
Issac Bruce

Joe Montana
Troy Aikman
Steve Young
Dan Marino

im pretty sure 2 hall of famers from ridic small school still enforces my theory. 2 made what about the rest the faileD?

Jerry rice and Walter Peyton were 1st round prospect neither of these guys are even close to be a first round prospect.
 

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Nors;2039755 said:
He's right,

Signed Walter Payton, Jerry Rice, Tony Romo

Santos does not deserve to be mentioned with any of those players... it's a measure of how ridiculous your man love for Ricky is that you'd even think about invoking their names when trying to puff up this undersized, noodle-armed passer with shaky mechanics...
 

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tomson75;2038496 said:
...didn't see that one coming. Hey Nors, maybe you could get a santos tattoo right next to this one...



:lmao2:

That tat looks like one of those cartoon characters you used to see Saturday mornings on Scooby-Doo. One of the Villan Ghosts that always turned out to be Mr. Peevely, the Janitor, at the end of the show.

Do ya think this guy is a Scooby-Doo fan?
 
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