Sony Michell shows why you need a good RB

[kskboys]

Lost in the shuffle w/ Edelmann busting out in the super bowl was a playoff MVP type performance in the Pats super bowl run. In 3 games, here are his stats:

71/336/6 TD's.

Michell was a beast in the Chargers playoff win. They couldn't stop him. 24/129/3 TDs

And then in what became a close one vs KC, Michell kept the chains moving and the ball out of Mahomes's hands. 29/113 and 2 TD's.

And then in the super bowl, while overshadowed by Edelmann's performance, Michell once again had a great game at 18/94 and scored the games only TD.

NE outplayed SD, but I'm not sure NE beats KC w/o his performance.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I was told you need a top 4 pick to get a good running back.......

 

[HungryLion]

I was told you need a top 4 pick to get a good running back.......

Michel wasn’t a top 4 pick, but he was a first rounder. So he wasn’t some unknown late round pick either.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Michel wasn’t a top 4 pick, but he was a first rounder. So he wasn’t some unknown late round pick either.

Was at the very end of the first round. People are debating you have to have a top 10 pick at RB to get a good back. Their words not mine

 

[HungryLion]

Was at the very end of the first round. People are debating you have to have a top 10 pick at RB to get a good back. Their words not mine

I haven’t seen that debate. I have seen plenty of people claim that you can get a good running back late in the draft so no need to spend a high pick on one. Michel isn’t proof in favor of that argument.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I haven’t seen that debate. I have seen plenty of people claim that you can get a good running back late in the draft so no need to spend a high pick on one. Michel isn’t proof in favor of that argument.

People say some crazy things on here. Its in one of the Zeke threads

 

[HungryLion]

People say some crazy things on here. Its in one of the Zeke threads

A lot of idiots on this board. That for sure.

I do think it’s telling that the best coach of all time, who has the best QB of all time playing for him, thought it was wise to use a first rounder on a RB. Even a late first rounder.

It says something about the overall importance of the position.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

A lot of idiots on this board. That for sure.

I do think it’s telling that the best coach of all time, who has the best QB of all time playing for him, thought it was wise to use a first rounder on a RB. Even a late first rounder.

It says something about the overall importance of the position.

Well he still was able to get things out of backs like White and Burkhead. Brady isn't the best QB of all time but Belichek might be the greatest coach of all time. He takes best player available and makes a gameplan to his players strengths and his opponents weakness.

 

[Hardline]

Ill take a good RB over a bad one any day.

 

[mattjames2010]

Lost in the shuffle w/ Edelmann busting out in the super bowl was a playoff MVP type performance in the Pats super bowl run. In 3 games, here are his stats:

71/336/6 TD's.

Michell was a beast in the Chargers playoff win. They couldn't stop him. 24/129/3 TDs

And then in what became a close one vs KC, Michell kept the chains moving and the ball out of Mahomes's hands. 29/113 and 2 TD's.

And then in the super bowl, while overshadowed by Edelmann's performance, Michell once again had a great game at 18/94 and scored the games only TD.

NE outplayed SD, but I'm not sure NE beats KC w/o his performance.

They beat KC earlier in the year without him. They won because of Brady in the 4th and in overtime. They've also won a lot of games before Michel ever got there, and at times, with no-name or just average RBs. They also haven't taken an RB in the top 5 either or dished out a big contract to one.

If you're looking to NE to defend the RB position, you're looking at the wrong team. NE knows exactly how disposable that position is - it wouldn't surprise me if Michel ends up on the trade block in year 3.

 

[Tangle_Foot]

I kind of like that Belichick guy myself

 

[robjay04]

Was at the very end of the first round. People are debating you have to have a top 10 pick at RB to get a good back. Their words not mine

Depends on the draft and the team needs.

If the RB is the best player on the board that fits a need in a weak first round, it’s worth it. You can say we should’ve traded back but you don’t even know if we had an offer on the board or what that offer was.

Generally, a RB Isn’t worth that high of a pick. In the 2016 draft he was..only 7 pro bowlers in that first round and we got one of them. You can say Ramsey would’ve been better but he seems like kind of a headache as well. I don’t know if a personality like that would excel with a spotlight like he would have in Dallas.

 

[exciter]

Amazing you can win a super bowl with a combination of a good running back and a very good quarterback. Strange how a balanced offense works!

 

[xwalker]

I was told you need a top 4 pick to get a good running back.......

Michel wasn’t a top 4 pick, but he was a first rounder. So he wasn’t some unknown late round pick either.

It was very surprising that the Pats took ANY RB in the 1st.

The Pats using a late 1st on a player means they really put a high value on that player because many years they trade down out of the 1st.

Basically the Pats taking a RB late 1st is similar to the Browns taking one at #1 overall when you consider the relative importance that each team puts on a individual player.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Depends on the draft and the team needs.

If the RB is the best player on the board that fits a need in a weak first round, it’s worth it. You can say we should’ve traded back but you don’t even know if we had an offer on the board or what that offer was.

Generally, a RB Isn’t worth that high of a pick. In the 2016 draft he was..only 7 pro bowlers in that first round and we got one of them. You can say Ramsey would’ve been better but he seems like kind of a headache as well. I don’t know if a personality like that would excel with a spotlight like he would have in Dallas.

Seems like you misunderstood my point. I'm ok drafting Zeke where we did compared to what was on the board. My point is a RB doesn't have to be picked in the top 10 to get a very good back.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

It was very surprising that the Pats took ANY RB in the 1st.

The Pats using a late 1st on a player means they really put a high value on that player because many years they trade down out of the 1st.

Basically the Pats taking a RB late 1st is similar to the Browns taking one at #1 overall when you consider the relative importance that each team puts on a individual player.

You are missing my point. I understand what you're saying, what I'm trying to point out is you can find good running backs outside the top 10. Howard at one point was a top back and was taken i think round 6. I'm ok with Zeke at 4, I'm not arguing that. Some on this board think only great backs are top 10 picks and if we let Zeke go by trade or whatever we won't be able to run the ball cause we aren't picking at 4 again. Thats just silly

 

[Flamma]

Lost in the shuffle w/ Edelmann busting out in the super bowl was a playoff MVP type performance in the Pats super bowl run. In 3 games, here are his stats:

71/336/6 TD's.

Michell was a beast in the Chargers playoff win. They couldn't stop him. 24/129/3 TDs

And then in what became a close one vs KC, Michell kept the chains moving and the ball out of Mahomes's hands. 29/113 and 2 TD's.

And then in the super bowl, while overshadowed by Edelmann's performance, Michell once again had a great game at 18/94 and scored the games only TD.

NE outplayed SD, but I'm not sure NE beats KC w/o his performance.

He's nothing more than a good RB in a system where defenses are looking to stop Brady and the passing game. Put him on most other teams and he's non existent.

 

[xwalker]

You are missing my point. I understand what you're saying, what I'm trying to point out is you can find good running backs outside the top 10. Howard at one point was a top back and was taken i think round 6. I'm ok with Zeke at 4, I'm not arguing that. Some on this board think only great backs are top 10 picks and if we let Zeke go by trade or whatever we won't be able to run the ball cause we aren't picking at 4 again. Thats just silly

I have not seen anyone say it is not possible to get a good RB outside of the top 10.

 

[beware_d-ware]

The Pats do what all coaching staffs are theoretically supposed to do - adjust their gameplan to match their opponent. Michel has a role as the bruiser back when they want to load up and go run heavy. Chargers putting 3 safeties on the field? Bludgeon those guys with 30 carries. The week after that, they'll go shotgun 4 wide and throw it all over the yard. The only constant with Belichick is that he's going to do what you don't want him to do.

Michel's not really a feature back in the chameleon-esque Patriots offense, but he's looking like a really nice piece who can strap up for 25 carries and turn it into 100 yards when the Hoodie deems it necessary.

You are missing my point. I understand what you're saying, what I'm trying to point out is you can find good running backs outside the top 10. Howard at one point was a top back and was taken i think round 6. I'm ok with Zeke at 4, I'm not arguing that. Some on this board think only great backs are top 10 picks and if we let Zeke go by trade or whatever we won't be able to run the ball cause we aren't picking at 4 again. Thats just silly

I just looked it up, and out of the top 10 leading rushers this year, 5 of them were top 10 picks. 8 of them went in the first two rounds.

So if you want an elite rusher, a primo pick is the best way to get him.

 

[Verdict]

Depends on the draft and the team needs.

If the RB is the best player on the board that fits a need in a weak first round, it’s worth it. You can say we should’ve traded back but you don’t even know if we had an offer on the board or what that offer was.

Generally, a RB Isn’t worth that high of a pick. In the 2016 draft he was..only 7 pro bowlers in that first round and we got one of them. You can say Ramsey would’ve been better but he seems like kind of a headache as well. I don’t know if a personality like that would excel with a spotlight like he would have in Dallas.

Ramsey would have been a lesser pick than Zeke for MANY reasons.