Stuck between a Dak and a Hard Place

[Hawkeye19]

Been thinking about the state of suck we have been in, and the reality that we just made the longterm commitment to Dak.

Part of me says: A total rebuild is clearly what is needed. We should sell off old aging players for draft capital at the deadline (Law and Martin) and clean house of the coaching staff and start over.

But

This FO extended Dak and you are still married to your biggest problem for at least 3 more years.

So— part of m thinks you have to delay the rebuild and go do anything and everything you can to win with him now in this window.

Get a RB at the deadline. Get another speed threat at WR 2. Go get a beefy DT and another LB to help vs the run.

Is there scope to consider a “Rams” option here? Mortgage some draft capital, jack up your cap for the next 3 years and try and get something done in this window? Push all the chips in and target a massive rebuild in 2028?

Granted— neither of these options are “great”. Signing Dak to the huge contract only to refuse to surround him with the hellp you know he clearly needs in the running game and with multiple options in the passing makes zero sense and the proof is in the pudding.

I dunno. I know some folks are saying blow it all up and cut Dak. I get the sentiment— but that is just not realistic at this point— at least not this year.

What do you guys think? Firesale and rebuild with Dak and hope for a miraculous reset? Or take what cap money and draft capital we have and make a few moves to cobble the best roster we can put together around Prescott and hope JJ finally catches “lightning in a bottle”? Lol

 

[triplets_93]

MBreezy: Is Dak Prescott Really This Bad?

The Dallas Cowboys Might be in Trouble for the next 5 years with Dak Prescott as their QB.

 

[MarkP88]

Been thinking about the state of suck we have been in, and the reality that we just made the longterm commitment to Dak.

Part of me says: A total rebuild is clearly what is needed. We should sell off old aging players for draft capital at the deadline (Law and Martin) and clean house of the coaching staff and start over.

But

This FO extended Dak and you are still married to your biggest problem for at least 3 more years.

So— part of m thinks you have to delay the rebuild and go do anything and everything you can to win with him now in this window.

Get a RB at the deadline. Get another speed threat at WR 2. Go get a beefy DT and another LB to help vs the run.

Is there scope to consider a “Rams” option here? Mortgage some draft capital, jack up your cap for the next 3 years and try and get something done in this window? Push all the chips in and target a massive rebuild in 2028?

Granted— neither of these options are “great”. Signing Dak to the huge contract only to refuse to surround him with the hellp you know he clearly needs in the running game and with multiple options in the passing makes zero sense and the proof is in the pudding.

I dunno. I know some folks are saying blow it all up and cut Dak. I get the sentiment— but that is just not realistic at this point— at least not this year.

What do you guys think? Firesale and rebuild with Dak and hope for a miraculous reset? Or take what cap money and draft capital we have and make a few moves to cobble the best roster we can put together around Prescott and hope JJ finally catches “lightning in a bottle”? Lol

We are nowhere near close enough for the “try to catch lightning in a bottle” approach.

 

[Jipper]

Draft another oline in 1st, a rb in 2nd, another oline in tje 3rd, pick up a wr in FA and the team will be noticeably better in terms of offensive production...just have to rebuild the line and add a running game...as well as a true number 2 wr

Dak is what he is, and can be survivable but need the tools around him, or he's going to continue to be bad...he will never be top 5 or elite but he can certainly be serviceable with the right setup

 

[Hawkeye19]

Draft another oline in 1st, a rb in 2nd, another oline in tje 3rd, pick up a wr in FA and the team will be noticeably better in terms of offensive production...just have to rebuild the line and add a running game...as well as a true number 2 wr

Dak is what he is, and can be survivable but need the tools around him, or he's going to continue to be bad...he will never be top 5 or elite but he can certainly be serviceable with the right setup

We definitely need to build a better scheme around him. And I agree. We have to surround him with talent that allows him to succeed.

I just will never understand the mindset of this FO. Why commit big money to him and then refuse to spend small money on the complimentary pieces you know he has to have to play well?

 

[G2]

Oh goodie, another!

 

[Jipper]

We definitely need to build a better scheme around him. And I agree. We have to surround him with talent that allows him to succeed.

I just will never understand the mindset of this FO. Why commit big money to him and then refuse to spend small money on the complimentary pieces you know he has to have to play well?

Yeah man, it was a stupid contract and I wish we had moved on, but now that they are Locked in have to hope the make it more dak friendly

 

[acr731]

MBreezy: Is Dak Prescott Really This Bad?

The Dallas Cowboys Might be in Trouble for the next 5 years with Dak Prescott as their QB.

Breezy has to be a CZ member...... most of the things he said have been mentioned here many times

 

[atlantacowboy]

Been thinking about the state of suck we have been in, and the reality that we just made the longterm commitment to Dak.

Part of me says: A total rebuild is clearly what is needed. We should sell off old aging players for draft capital at the deadline (Law and Martin) and clean house of the coaching staff and start over.

But

This FO extended Dak and you are still married to your biggest problem for at least 3 more years.

So— part of m thinks you have to delay the rebuild and go do anything and everything you can to win with him now in this window.

Get a RB at the deadline. Get another speed threat at WR 2. Go get a beefy DT and another LB to help vs the run.

Is there scope to consider a “Rams” option here? Mortgage some draft capital, jack up your cap for the next 3 years and try and get something done in this window? Push all the chips in and target a massive rebuild in 2028?

Granted— neither of these options are “great”. Signing Dak to the huge contract only to refuse to surround him with the hellp you know he clearly needs in the running game and with multiple options in the passing makes zero sense and the proof is in the pudding.

I dunno. I know some folks are saying blow it all up and cut Dak. I get the sentiment— but that is just not realistic at this point— at least not this year.

What do you guys think? Firesale and rebuild with Dak and hope for a miraculous reset? Or take what cap money and draft capital we have and make a few moves to cobble the best roster we can put together around Prescott and hope JJ finally catches “lightning in a bottle”? Lol

These questions about the future and what we need to add were obvious to everyone but Jerry. He picked the wrong offseason to ignore the team and do nothing. The FO apparently thought the GB playoff debacle was a fluke and Lance was the future. Wrong and wrong.

Jerry completely overvalued many players on his roster b/c its all he looks at. He's not looking around the league and comparing rosters like most GMs. Stephen A (who I dislike) had Jerry on his podcast prior to the season and Stephen was asking him about why so few moves? Jerry basically told him that their were guys buried on the bench that needed to play and were just as good. The man is delusional and cannot see outside his own bubble.

 

[Streifenkarl]

Yeah man, it was a stupid contract and I wish we had moved on, but now that they are Locked in have to hope the make it more dak friendly

It has been very Dak friendly at some point or another. He had a Zeke in his prime, a very good o line at times, Amari and CD at the same time and so on... He's had two head coaches, one of them tried to "dumb down" the offense for him. He's had good and reliable TE safety net options. He did have a defense which held San Francisco to 23 and 19 points ffs. So what more do you want? This has never been an issue of the talent around him. But his inconsistency and the habit to fall apart in clutch moments.

In my opinion the only valid option is to go into full rebuild mode now, even with Dak. Sell what can be sold for high draft picks before the trade deadline, end the season with a below .500 ratio to get more good draft picks. Then trade the veterans that are left next off season. Draft QBs high and make it clear, that the #1 QB spot is up for grabs. Dak has to compete with the young guys, no matter what kind of money he makes.

First: Jerry has to step down, hire a true GM. With all the heat coming down on him who knows, maybe he'll be cooked within a year or two. Then get a young, hungry coach who prioritizes the defense and knows clock management. A guy who makes it clear that discipline is the first and last thing every player has to think about each day. Stop going to California for TC. Book a lodge somewhere in Montana or Idaho, far from any distractions. Practice like hell, make it feel like a full season already. And then see who's still standing.


Keepers:

O Line: Steele needs to step up his game and Martin is on the way out. But the basis is there, one more draftee and we're set for the next couple of years.
Kicker: Well, Aubrey
TE: Ferguson hasnt been good this year. Imo he should be still part of our future. The talent is there. At least no need to spend a draft pick here.
CB: Well since everything sucks this year, they suck too. But imo the group can do great things, once their DC lets them go ball hawking again

Biggest need of talent: RG, DT, RB, LB, WR2. In that order. Left out the QB here, because that's obvious.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Hire Belichick, let him pick his staff, and give him total authority to work with McClay to draft, trade, cut, and sign players. Any change in the right direction has to start with culture, IMO. I am now convinced these players are consumed by the star on the helmet and have no clue how much hard work it takes to win a Super Bowl.

In other words, this team has zero leadership, and the chances of getting it from any of the players are slim. That's why you need a strong coach to show players what it takes.

Sidenote......I wouldn't hire him or touch him with a 10ft pole but you need a guy with Deion's persona. Been there, done that, and isn't afraid to call it as he sees it.

 

[sbark]

Oh goodie, another!

1st of the next 100 over next 4.5 yrs
Dak will end up being the poster face of Dallas decline

 

[G2]

1st of the next 100 over next 4.5 yrs
Dak will end up being the poster face of Dallas decline

I'm sure to some

 

[Flamma]

This came up as a suggestion on youtube, so I gave it a shot. Hell, I don't do anything else at work. Plus I like Sharp.

Everything in this video Sharp says is spot on. Especially what he says at the end. Even Stephen A. is seeing it. He said Dak is fine when we're up, or already lost the game. He loosens up. But if the ship is sinking, he's just extra weight.

 

[Hawkeye19]

These questions about the future and what we need to add were obvious to everyone but Jerry. He picked the wrong offseason to ignore the team and do nothing. The FO apparently thought the GB playoff debacle was a fluke and Lance was the future. Wrong and wrong.

Jerry completely overvalued many players on his roster b/c its all he looks at. He's not looking around the league and comparing rosters like most GMs. Stephen A (who I dislike) had Jerry on his podcast prior to the season and Stephen was asking him about why so few moves? Jerry basically told him that their were guys buried on the bench that needed to play and were just as good. The man is delusional and cannot see outside his own bubble.

There is no question that JJ’s incompetence is the central problem of this franchise.

It just sucks to think we are basically punting for the rest of Dak’s career and there is nothing to be done about it.

Obviously a new coaching staff, scheme, and draft can bring in a measure of micro change— but when everything is on fire, it would be great to see someone in a leadership position in this franchise holding a damn fire extinguisher lol

 

[atlantacowboy]

There is no question that JJ’s incompetence is the central problem of this franchise.

It just sucks to think we are basically punting for the rest of Dak’s career and there is nothing to be done about it.

Obviously a new coaching staff, scheme, and draft can bring in a measure of micro change— but when everything is on fire, it would be great to see someone in a leadership position in this franchise holding a damn fire extinguisher lol

I don't think the FO thinks they made an error signing Dak to that absurd contract. The way out is to draft a rookie QB and let them develop for a year. Meanwhile we can restock the OL (Steele needs to go and Zach is nearing the end). and let Dak take the beating behind rookies. If they did this, we could be back in 2026. But, again, the front office is run by delusional morons who live in their own bubble. They will try to rebuild around Dak.

 

[BlindFaith]

Start blowing up the team. Trade what you can. Spread those draft picks out over the next couple years. Give Dak nothing to work with. Force his hand to be traded.

 

[rambo2]

Been thinking about the state of suck we have been in, and the reality that we just made the longterm commitment to Dak.

Part of me says: A total rebuild is clearly what is needed. We should sell off old aging players for draft capital at the deadline (Law and Martin) and clean house of the coaching staff and start over.

But

This FO extended Dak and you are still married to your biggest problem for at least 3 more years.

So— part of m thinks you have to delay the rebuild and go do anything and everything you can to win with him now in this window.

Get a RB at the deadline. Get another speed threat at WR 2. Go get a beefy DT and another LB to help vs the run.

Is there scope to consider a “Rams” option here? Mortgage some draft capital, jack up your cap for the next 3 years and try and get something done in this window? Push all the chips in and target a massive rebuild in 2028?

Granted— neither of these options are “great”. Signing Dak to the huge contract only to refuse to surround him with the hellp you know he clearly needs in the running game and with multiple options in the passing makes zero sense and the proof is in the pudding.

I dunno. I know some folks are saying blow it all up and cut Dak. I get the sentiment— but that is just not realistic at this point— at least not this year.

What do you guys think? Firesale and rebuild with Dak and hope for a miraculous reset? Or take what cap money and draft capital we have and make a few moves to cobble the best roster we can put together around Prescott and hope JJ finally catches “lightning in a bottle”? Lol

Their plan appears to be to go into next year with 100 million in cap space. To me having a qb that can't run is going to hurt them a lot going forward.

 

[ryanbabs]

Until this FO is gone or at least hires a true GM…it doesn’t matter. They’ll make the wrong decisions.

 

[Gonzomandela01]

Almost impossible to achive a turnaround like that with the actual state of things of this franchise, but even if this FO would have the balls to do it and actually go "All in" for a run, nothing is guaranteed but one thing, 4 will crap the bed in the playoffs again, so whats the use?

Future looks dark.