Study Finds New Pop Music Does All Sound the Same

[YosemiteSam]

Don't even get me started on how terrible much of (not all) hip-hop and rap lyrics are. Today, most (considered) artist can't rhyme at all. Instead, they have to mispronounce words to get them to sound similar and sometimes not even then. Or they do say something that rhymes, but is it beyond lame. It's embarrassing yet people accept it.

Kanya West's Stronger is perfect example of really ****ty lyrics. Sometimes he doesn't even try to rhyme. He just keeps ending the each lyric with the same word so it *sounds* like he is rhyming. He rhymes stronger with "wronger"!?!? That isn't even a freaking word. Lets not even get into the fact that he repeats the same lyrics 500x in that song. Why is he talking about Isotoners?

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A study of music from the '50 to the present using the Million Song Dataset has concluded that modern music has less variation than older music and songs today are, on average, 9dB louder than 50 years ago. Almost all music uses just 10 chords, but the way these are used together has changed, leading to fewer types of transitions being used. Variation in timbre has also reduced over the past decades.

 

[tupperware]

In short, people like bad music.

Yeah I know, subjective, art. Spare me, please.

 

[CashMan]

Don't even get me started on how terrible much of (not all) hip-hop and rap lyrics are. Today, most (considered) artist can't rhyme at all. Instead, they have to mispronounce words to get them to sound similar and sometimes not even then. Or they do say something that rhymes, but is it beyond lame. It's embarrassing yet people accept it.

Kanya West's Stronger is perfect example of really ****ty lyrics. Sometimes he doesn't even try to rhyme. He just keeps ending the each lyric with the same word so it *sounds* like he is rhyming. He rhymes stronger with "wronger"!?!? That isn't even a freaking word. Lets not even get into the fact that he repeats the same lyrics 500x in that song. Why is he talking about Isotoners?

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A study of music from the '50 to the present using the Million Song Dataset has concluded that modern music has less variation than older music and songs today are, on average, 9dB louder than 50 years ago. Almost all music uses just 10 chords, but the way these are used together has changed, leading to fewer types of transitions being used. Variation in timbre has also reduced over the past decades.

Out of curiosity, what do you consider good music?

 

[tupperware]

Out of curiosity, what do you consider good music?

Probably music which is the exact opposite of what is described

 

[CashMan]

Probably music which is the exact opposite of what is described

I am not defending that music, I agree. But if he comes back and says stuff like Metallica, I will laugh.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Out of curiosity, what do you consider good music?

Real music of course!

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[YosemiteSam]

I am not defending that music, I agree. But if he comes back and says stuff like Metallica, I will laugh.

It's funny you should say Metallica. One thing Metallica definitely has going for them is lyrical content. I would put their lyrics up against any rap/hip-hop of today. They makes sense, rhyme when needed and don't use the same words for 60% of the lyrical content of the song.

That was a bad choice to offer up and say you would laugh.

 

[CashMan]

That was a bad choice to offer up and say you would laugh.

I don't think so. I did not say pop music was the be all end all. You seem to be the one who thinks metal is. I am open to all types of music, but in no way would I say Metallica is better in any way.

 

[burmafrd]

Rap is not music. Never has been never will be. Its noise.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I don't think so. I did not say pop music was the be all end all. You seem to be the one who thinks metal is. I am open to all types of music, but in no way would I say Metallica is better in any way.

Actually, I'm pretty eclectic in my music listening, I just prefer rock over most others. I used to listen to rap too, until the quality went down the toilet. I would say my second favorite is at the complete other end of the spectrum. I own about 35+ different symphony CDs.

I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't listen to metal to really have any idea about the quality of lyrics from a metal band. If I were to guess, I wouldn't know if you could actually name a single Metallica song without Googling them first.

 

[iceberg]

axis of awesome - 4 chord song.

i'd post the video but they do drop some f-bombs.

 

[CashMan]

Actually, I'm pretty eclectic in my music listening, I just prefer rock over most others. I used to listen to rap too, until the quality went down the toilet. I would say my second favorite is at the complete other end of the spectrum. I own about 35+ different symphony CDs.

I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't listen to metal to really have any idea about the quality of lyrics from a metal band. If I were to guess, I wouldn't know if you could actually name a single Metallica song without Googling them first.

I do not know why, you are quoting me. I never said I did not listen to metal. I listen to some, and no I can not name a Metallica song, since I do not listen to them. I think rap is crap, btw.
You had the perfect opportunity to name a rock band, when I asked, and you named a metal band.

Queen, now there is a good rock band.

Pop music has one goal, make money.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I do not know why, you are quoting me. I never said I did not listen to metal. I listen to some, and no I can not name a Metallica song, since I do not listen to them. I think rap is crap, btw.
You had the perfect opportunity to name a rock band, when I asked, and you named a metal band.

Queen, now there is a good rock band.

Pop music has one goal, make money.

I named Slayer. I really like Slayer. (well, I really like 3 of their albums, Reign in Blood, South of Heaven, and Seasons in the Abyss) After Dave Lombardo left I pretty much no longer cared for their music as they changed styles and musical quality. Metal is a form of rock btw.

I like Queen too. Zepplin, AC/DC, ZZ Top. Other music types? George Straight, Brad Pasley, etc. More? I used to be a big NWA fan, Fat boys, LL Cool J, and the Beastie Boys. (though their lyrics were kind of dumb too, but at least they didn't screw them up) I used to listen to UTFO too, but now when I listen to it, hah I have to turn it off.

I told you I'm eclectic in my musical taste, but rock is definitely where it's at for me. Though, I can listen to *almost* any 80s and 90s music.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Don't even get me started on how terrible much of (not all) hip-hop and rap lyrics are. Today, most (considered) artist can't rhyme at all. Instead, they have to mispronounce words to get them to sound similar and sometimes not even then. Or they do say something that rhymes, but is it beyond lame. It's embarrassing yet people accept it.

OK, not saying JZ is bad lyrically or anything, but perfect example of what he's talking about from 'Big Pimping'

"Then sit back and peep my sce-nawr-e-oh
Oops, my bad, that's my scenario
No I can't **** a scary hoe"

 

[Lodeus]

A pop music world with Nicki Manhaj and Ke$ha at the top is a doomed one. Kanye seemed to be alright when I bought his first record but went down hill from there. Artist like Wocka Flocka and lmao are an embarrassment to the rap/hip-hop(if that's what they are even considered) genre. Good party music, nothing more.

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Artist like this should be popular than they are. All pretty easy accessible and I have hard time wondering why they aren't more popular.

 

[Rynie]

Real music of course!

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Psssh. I'd rather slide down a razor-blade slide into a pool of rubbing alcohol than listen to this crap.

 

[wittenacious]

Psssh. I'd rather slide down a razor-blade slide into a pool of rubbing alcohol than listen to this crap.

Slayer's music moved me though. Started uncontrollably head-bangin'. Hurt my neck right off the bat. I quit. Went back to music that's a lot less prone to cause self-inflicted pain.

Gimme a song that makes me wanna beat on someone else, any day. :laugh2:

I kid, I kid.

 

[RS12]

Much pop music has sounded the same for the last twenty to thirty years, I think it is because computer programs make so much of it, and computers filter voices etc. Prior to that musicians and singers needed talent to succeed, now they just need to be properly marketed. Computers killing both music and movies IMO.

 

[arglebargle]

Steak is a better meal than popcorn, but you still get popcorn when going to the movies.

There's fluff, there's deeper stuff. Always has been. Probably always will be. We are just less aware of the fluff from bygone eras, because it has been scraped off by time. Believe me, I had to deal with my father's 6000 plus disc record collection (1920's-50's), and there was a ton of junk in there. And that's from a time when it was much more difficult to produce the discs. Nowadays, anyone with $2k in a computer set up can reliably produce better sound quality than the Beatles recordings. Musical quality?

Well, there's fluff, and then there's deeper stuff....

 

[arglebargle]

Much pop music has sounded the same for the last twenty to thirty years, I think it is because computer programs make so much of it, and computers filter voices etc. Prior to that musicians and singers needed talent to succeed, now they just need to be properly marketed. Computers killing both music and movies IMO.

Paul Anka? Fabian?