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Does or has anyone taken Tai Chi? I took some martial arts when I was a kid, (Kimpo) but didn't continue with it. I'm not really interested in the combative aspects of it as I am the more inner focus and physical aspects though I know they go hand and hand. Which is why I'm not so interested in Karate or similar arts) Though Kung ** might be acceptable.
 

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Ever try Yoga? It's not just for females. You sweat like a mother and it's very hard. Then there is the whole breathing technique and inner peace part which is why I tried it. I've actually been thinking about doing it again.

Plus, you live near manhattan no? Do you know how many hot girls take yoga classes?
 

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a_minimalist;4649780 said:
Ever try Yoga? It's not just for females. You sweat like a mother and it's very hard. Then there is the whole breathing technique and inner peace part which is why I tried it. I've actually been thinking about doing it again.

Plus, you live near manhattan no? Do you know how many hot girls take yoga classes?

I thought about Yoga first, but figured Tai Chi was a tad bit more manly. :laugh2:

Well, I work in Manhattan but I live in lower Connecticut. I have a Tai Chi place near my home and I'm sure there are Yoga places too.

I could take the classes in NYC or Connecticut.
 

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Sam I Am;4649784 said:
I thought about Yoga first, but figured Tai Chi was a tad bit more manly. :laugh2:

Well, I work in Manhattan but I live in lower Connecticut. I have a Tai Chi place near my home and I'm sure there are Yoga places too.

I could take the classes in NYC or Connecticut.

Yoga is going to be more "active" than tai chi. If you get a good class that's more oriented towards the physical aspect, it's not unmanly at all really. I've actually done a small amount of tai chi in some yoga classes and I knew a guy who taught himself the basics from a book. It seemed interesting but maybe not quite the physical challenge of some other things.
 

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I did Tai Chi for an hour a week for years. It helped my flexibility and I think it helped relieve mental stress as well.
 

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Sam I Am;4649784 said:
I thought about Yoga first, but figured Tai Chi was a tad bit more manly. :laugh2:

Well, I work in Manhattan but I live in lower Connecticut. I have a Tai Chi place near my home and I'm sure there are Yoga places too.

I could take the classes in NYC or Connecticut.

Yeah, I know a lot of guys who feel the same way. I promise you that the majority of guys who think it's not manly struggle with it though. It's not easy.

You can even buy a decent Yoga DVD to just see what it's like and be less of a beginner before you take a class. Either way, Tai Chi or Yoga are both a good way to exercise.

Yoga is better if you want something to look at sometimes ;)
 

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My wife is Chinese and does tai ji which is proper in Mandarin. I don't know about southern China. If you do tai ji for a few minutes you won't think it isn't tiring. It's just not as much movement as most other forms of martial arts. Tai ji is focused on qi geng which is kinda impossible to talk about in English. Simply its collecting and using qi from around and in you to do things mostly getting it to flow thru previously blocked areas in your body. I don't understand it well because the concepts are alien and there are no equivalent English words. I don't believe much of it although some I do even if I can't explain it in terms of modern physiology. You can externalize your qi and she is able to do some things to me that I cannot explain scientifically so I don't talk about it very often.

Most people in the West just do tai chi for exercise and its good as a low impact not very aerobic exercise. Most aren't interested in or taught the qi geng.
 

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Go with yoga. great workout that leaves you feeling more 'open'... not sure how else to explain that... just that your body moves better & you are less stressed after a yoga workout. There are many forms of yoga - look for a "vinyasa" yoga class - fairly vigorous form which builds over the course of the class. You will definitely feel the workout in your arms, legs, shoulders, core, etc.
 

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Lots of Yoga recommendations.

Maybe I will check out this Yoga for Beginners Boxed Set. It seems to get a lot of great reviews. I'm sure a single Yoga class probably cost more than this does anyhow.
 

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Sam I Am;4649990 said:
Lots of Yoga recommendations.

Maybe I will check out this Yoga for Beginners Boxed Set. It seems to get a lot of great reviews. I'm sure a single Yoga class probably cost more than this does anyhow.

I have it. I loved it when I used it. I've never taken a class but know people who have. It's all about preference. I wanted to use yoga as an exercise but also as a way of relaxation and centering myself. I can't do that around a lot of people because I tend to be hyper-aware of everything that's going on around me. I have a serious sensory overload just going to a museum.

There are a ton of options for routines within the DVD which can be a little overwhelming.
 

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a_minimalist;4650017 said:
I have a serious sensory overload just going to a museum.

I've started practicing meditation just recently. This is definitely an issue with people new to meditation, but they say it's common and can be overcome with practice. They say when you find your thoughts drifting, just refocus.

Actually, it's the meditation that got me thinking about Tai Chi as an alternate option to Yoga.
 

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Sam I Am;4650065 said:
I've started practicing meditation just recently. This is definitely an issue with people new to meditation, but they say it's common and can be overcome with practice. They say when you find your thoughts drifting, just refocus.

Actually, it's the meditation that got me thinking about Tai Chi as an alternate option to Yoga.

I love meditating. It changes you completely as a person. I think there are many different types or ways to meditate though. The type of meditating I was doing allowed the thoughts to float around but you sort of just separated yourself from them and examined them. You weren't allowed to stop them, you could only recognize them. I think it was called "mindfulness." You also took in and examined sounds and smells. You wouldn't think about them but just recognize them.
 

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a_minimalist;4650096 said:
I love meditating. It changes you completely as a person. I think there are many different types or ways to meditate though. The type of meditating I was doing allowed the thoughts to float around but you sort of just separated yourself from them and examined them. You weren't allowed to stop them, you could only recognize them. I think it was called "mindfulness." You also took in and examined sounds and smells. You wouldn't think about them but just recognize them.

I haven't gotten that far. So far, I'm at the very beginning where all you do is focus on your breathing and try not to let the mind wonder to anything else for a 15 minute period.
 

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Sam I Am;4650105 said:
I haven't gotten that far. So far, I'm at the very beginning where all you do is focus on your breathing and try not to let the mind wonder to anything else for a 15 minute period.

I could be wrong but it's less about progression and advancement. It's more about preference.

On another note, I've never read this book, I have it in my bookshelf, but this book is supposed to be great for people who are starting to meditate. This website also has a ton of other really good books too.

http://www.shambhala.com/zen-mind-beginner-s-mind.html
 

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Sam I Am;4650105 said:
I haven't gotten that far. So far, I'm at the very beginning where all you do is focus on your breathing and try not to let the mind wonder to anything else for a 15 minute period.

I think the most I ever did was 30 minutes. It gets very hard.
 

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I took Tai Chi (Wu Style) years ago from a Chinese exchange student who knew his stuff. It was definitely based on combat principles, but has been adapted as a health regimen. We'd ask him about this move or that, and would get answers like; 'This is universal block. This is dodge of high blow and strike to midsection. This breaks arm.' But also, 'This is just very pretty.'

Tai Chi's major principles focus on energy and movement. Your partner or opponent moves forward, you move back. They pull back, you move forward. The slow motion of practice requires some discipline to go through the forms at a consistent speed. It's considered a good exercise for your internal organs, and a good exercise that can be done at all ages. It's not nearly as easy as it looks. After an hour of work, my legs were sore.

There's an 'approved' Han style short form that is used extensively, but as always, there are are loads of different stylings, based on different training lineages and principles. Among modern practitioners, you can run into all sorts, including flakes who have no understanding of the principles or background, but that is always an issue with any martial arts related practice. Investigating backgrounds of the teachers is always a good idea.

If you are interested in a more vigorous alternative that is still not so combative, you might take a look at Aikido or Ki-Aikido. Lots of rolling, throwing, and a more strenuous style. No attacks, but lots of work on dealing with them. And some cool arm and joint locks. It is very much a reactive system.
 

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Lonestar94;4650304 said:
Try "hot yoga"

DeMarcus Ware said so

Don't do it! Doing yoga in a scorching hot room is plain stupid. :D Maybe if you're advanced, fine. The idea that a beginner can take that class is just wrong.
 

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a_minimalist;4650378 said:
Don't do it! Doing yoga in a scorching hot room is plain stupid. :D Maybe if you're advanced, fine. The idea that a beginner can take that class is just wrong.

agreed. hot yoga is done so that you can (allegedly) take a stretch deeper than you can at normal room temperature. However, this is only for people in really good physical condition that are already adept at yoga.
 

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Sam I Am;4649990 said:
Lots of Yoga recommendations.

Maybe I will check out this Yoga for Beginners Boxed Set. It seems to get a lot of great reviews. I'm sure a single Yoga class probably cost more than this does anyhow.

I have not tried that set. I initially got into yoga using the p90x system. It was good for me to learn the basics on a video that I could pause when necessary to make sure I was doing it right. However, I now much prefer to go to a class with a good instructor. It's harder for me to focus with a video than it is with a real person leading a class.
 
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