The ways to beat the Niners

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IMO, the way to beat the 49ers is to make them quarterback reliant. They don't play well when Brock Purdy is asked to keep making plays. He'll make one or two big plays, but if asked to keep making them.... he'll struggle or toss an opponent a friendly gift.

Evidence is in the Ravens, Vikings, and Bengals game. Vs the Vikings, Kirk Cousins was in the zone. Minnesota is a receivers friendly system....... and it seems like Niners don't play well when their secondary is forced to stay with multiple receivers all game long. That makes their linebackers have to worry about receivers, and when they have to worry about multiple things, it leaves a second for Cousins to dot a streaking receiver across the middle of the field. I saw that continuously. Conversely, the Cowboys do seem to have success against the Vikings, but I generally don't see the Cowboys dominated by the pass or multiple receivers having a huge game against us. When's the last time more than 1 receiver had a big day against us? Maybe that explains our domination against the Vikings.

When we lose, it's always excessive penalties initially (Niners, Bills), we lose the line of scrimmage (Bills, Niners), or some weird game where someone random like James Cooks or James Connor or Joshua Dobbs having 8.0 yards per rush against us. (Bills, Cardinals)

Not sure if the Cowboys have the kind of receivers the Vikings have to force the Niners' linebackers away from anticipating the quarterback, but I think that's how you beat them...... make their linebackers go away from their call of duty and you take away possibly their greatest strength.

Cousins kept the Niner's offense off the field with key 3rd down conversions, so the Niners' offensive opportunities were limited. And the plays that the Niners offense did make were the characteristic huge plays by McCaffrey, didn't eat enough clock to prevent Cousins from coming back onto the field. And I think this game we found out Charvarious Ward's weakness..... Jordan Addison. The last time we saw Ward covering Gallup, he had no issues. Gallup was a Doritos bag against Ward. But.....just like Metcalf is Bland's sore spot... I think Addison is the Metcalf to Ward's Bland.

Against the Bengals.... the Bengals were able to keep the game close until Purdy tossed back to back interceptions. It seems Niners don't play well from behind, nor when tied. Cowboys play bad from behind, but in a relatively tie game Cowboys don't usually have the game go South. But in close tie games the Niners played against the Ravens, the Vikings, and Bengals........ there came a point where the game just precipitated South.

I think this is because when Niners have to pass.... it requires the QB to make multiple plays per drive and that's when they struggle. They're excellent with a lead, there's no doubt about it. But the game has to be in their control and played the way they want it.

Watching them vs the Ravens, the Ravens were leading only 16-12 at break, and that's after the Niners tossed 3 INTs. So while the turnovers were the huge story of the game, they were still in the game even after Purdy tossed 3 INTs. It was not a flukey game despite what Niners fans try to say. Ravens' defense was the difference in the game because they took away the short slants and outs and Purdy's passes met Ravens' hands before Niners' hands much of the times. Niners had a chance to create a new game after half, but their offense kept going 3 and out, so it was more than just the turnovers.

I think Cowboys and Niners have similar things you can say about. Both teams can go night or day. Cowboys had the Bills and Niners. Niners had the Vikings and Ravens and Browns. I also think the Cowboys play bad from behind. But they do too.

But I think there's a commonality with the Niners losses. It's when they don't get to do what they wanna do. I honestly think the Ravens were on top of the Niners film from the start, their defensive backs seemed to know where Purdy liked to go with the ball. So many passes barely made it past the line of scrimmage. But..... I think the Vikings beat them by clearly demonstrating their receivers were superior to the Niners' secondary. But then again, Cousins made some key plays and perhaps overplayed his usual norm.

I think the team has a definite weaknesses and I think McCarthy needs to figure out a way to get the offense moving faster against them and force them into a hole. The Eagles were able to do it. They just couldn't finish the first 2 drives, but they had them right where they wanted them. But Hurts tripped, and instead of starting the game 14-0, they kick 2 field goals. If you force them to 10-0 or 14-3 I think that's when you make them QB reliant and they start playing into our strengths. So I guess... if the Eagles were able to come out firing against them (just started spiraling after kicking 2 field goals)..... we can too! Figure it out McCarthy!
 

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IMO, the way to beat the 49ers is to make them quarterback reliant. They don't play well when Brock Purdy is asked to keep making plays. He'll make one or two big plays, but if asked to keep making them.... he'll struggle or toss an opponent a friendly gift.
You mean do unto them as they do to us.
 
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You mean do unto them as they do unto to us.
Not really.... the Cowboys and Niners are completely different. Cowboys are totally Quarterback reliant. Even Colin said so. Besides the Bills, the Cowboys are the most quarterback reliant team in the NFL. Niners win most games due to just superiority across multiple positions like you would expect Alabama to dominate most of the SEC.
 

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The way to beat the niners is to withstand the first couple of drives with good defense. Along with scoring yourself.
Takes a tough physical effort and the Cowboys can't just suddenly do that. That's just not who the are.
 

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Not really.... the Cowboys and Niners are completely different. Cowboys are totally Quarterback reliant. Even Colin said so. Besides the Bills, the Cowboys are the most quarterback reliant team in the NFL. Niners win most games due to just superiority across multiple positions like you would expect Alabama to dominate most of the SEC.
The 9ers were on record as bragging that their game plan is to stop our run and see if Dak can beat them.....it's Dak's biggest test, lets hope that this year his confidence levels are such to overcome the challenge (that and our ability to stop the run.....which will also come).
 

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The way to beat the niners is to withstand the first couple of drives with good defense. Along with scoring yourself.
Takes a tough physical effort and the Cowboys can't just suddenly do that. That's just not who the are.
I think we can. The Eagles did it. They just kicked 2 field goals to start. But Eagles completely dominated 15 minutes of that game, but those field goals hurt them badly, along with Hurts tripping.

If they converted just 1 out of 2 of those opportunities (like Hurts not tripping), it's 10-0 and I think SF is in a bad spot. Could be a different game.
 

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I think we can. The Eagles did it. They just kicked 2 field goals to start. But Eagles completely dominated 15 minutes of that game, but those field goals hurt them badly, along with Hurts tripping.

If they converted just 1 out of 2 of those opportunities (like Hurts not tripping), it's 10-0 and I think SF is in a bad spot. Could be a different game.
Don't forget Dak doesn't play well at all in those type of games and the 49ers are in his head.
 

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IMO, the way to beat the 49ers is to make them quarterback reliant. They don't play well when Brock Purdy is asked to keep making plays. He'll make one or two big plays, but if asked to keep making them.... he'll struggle or toss an opponent a friendly gift.

Evidence is in the Ravens, Vikings, and Bengals game. Vs the Vikings, Kirk Cousins was in the zone. Minnesota is a receivers friendly system....... and it seems like Niners don't play well when their secondary is forced to stay with multiple receivers all game long. That makes their linebackers have to worry about receivers, and when they have to worry about multiple things, it leaves a second for Cousins to dot a streaking receiver across the middle of the field. I saw that continuously. Conversely, the Cowboys do seem to have success against the Vikings, but I generally don't see the Cowboys dominated by the pass or multiple receivers having a huge game against us. When's the last time more than 1 receiver had a big day against us? Maybe that explains our domination against the Vikings.

When we lose, it's always excessive penalties initially (Niners, Bills), we lose the line of scrimmage (Bills, Niners), or some weird game where someone random like James Cooks or James Connor or Joshua Dobbs having 8.0 yards per rush against us. (Bills, Cardinals)

Not sure if the Cowboys have the kind of receivers the Vikings have to force the Niners' linebackers away from anticipating the quarterback, but I think that's how you beat them...... make their linebackers go away from their call of duty and you take away possibly their greatest strength.

Cousins kept the Niner's offense off the field with key 3rd down conversions, so the Niners' offensive opportunities were limited. And the plays that the Niners offense did make were the characteristic huge plays by McCaffrey, didn't eat enough clock to prevent Cousins from coming back onto the field. And I think this game we found out Charvarious Ward's weakness..... Jordan Addison. The last time we saw Ward covering Gallup, he had no issues. Gallup was a Doritos bag against Ward. But.....just like Metcalf is Bland's sore spot... I think Addison is the Metcalf to Ward's Bland.

Against the Bengals.... the Bengals were able to keep the game close until Purdy tossed back to back interceptions. It seems Niners don't play well from behind, nor when tied. Cowboys play bad from behind, but in a relatively tie game Cowboys don't usually have the game go South. But in close tie games the Niners played against the Ravens, the Vikings, and Bengals........ there came a point where the game just precipitated South.

I think this is because when Niners have to pass.... it requires the QB to make multiple plays per drive and that's when they struggle. They're excellent with a lead, there's no doubt about it. But the game has to be in their control and played the way they want it.

Watching them vs the Ravens, the Ravens were leading only 16-12 at break, and that's after the Niners tossed 3 INTs. So while the turnovers were the huge story of the game, they were still in the game even after Purdy tossed 3 INTs. It was not a flukey game despite what Niners fans try to say. Ravens' defense was the difference in the game because they took away the short slants and outs and Purdy's passes met Ravens' hands before Niners' hands much of the times. Niners had a chance to create a new game after half, but their offense kept going 3 and out, so it was more than just the turnovers.

I think Cowboys and Niners have similar things you can say about. Both teams can go night or day. Cowboys had the Bills and Niners. Niners had the Vikings and Ravens and Browns. I also think the Cowboys play bad from behind. But they do too.

But I think there's a commonality with the Niners losses. It's when they don't get to do what they wanna do. I honestly think the Ravens were on top of the Niners film from the start, their defensive backs seemed to know where Purdy liked to go with the ball. So many passes barely made it past the line of scrimmage. But..... I think the Vikings beat them by clearly demonstrating their receivers were superior to the Niners' secondary. But then again, Cousins made some key plays and perhaps overplayed his usual norm.

I think the team has a definite weaknesses and I think McCarthy needs to figure out a way to get the offense moving faster against them and force them into a hole. The Eagles were able to do it. They just couldn't finish the first 2 drives, but they had them right where they wanted them. But Hurts tripped, and instead of starting the game 14-0, they kick 2 field goals. If you force them to 10-0 or 14-3 I think that's when you make them QB reliant and they start playing into our strengths. So I guess... if the Eagles were able to come out firing against them (just started spiraling after kicking 2 field goals)..... we can too! Figure it out McCarthy!
I agree much relies upon rhythm and momentum. Then penalties and turn-overs.
 

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Don't forget Dak doesn't play well at all in those type of games and the 49ers are in his head.
That's true. Staubach won some against the Rams and lost some against the Rams. But Dak is only taking Ls against the Niners.

But who knows. Maybe the Cowboys receivers are superior this year. Maybe the O-Line is a little bit better. Collins resigned might give us some more depth, and maybe who knows.... the 49ers aren't deep in the O-Line either and maybe we can turn those sacks we had on Purdy last year to turnovers, and that would be a great help. Getting Purdy to turn it over is a real golden nugget.

maybe Pollard will have a good game against them who knows. He seems to be good or bad who knows when he's good who knows when he's bad. He was looking decent against them before the injury.
 
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I guess we will find out in a month if he has or not.
His team is solid and productive. I'm to where it's no longer a Jerry's blame game at all now. That point is already passed now. It's on the team now, good luck or bad. This is football...not folklore complaining. This fan is watching now, and letting the play define my views. This is now football and not raise one's pinkie with one's beer. :starspin:
 

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All that text when the answer is simple: Score more than 20 pts to begin with!!!!!:cool:
 

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That's true. Staubach won some against the Rams and lost some against the Rams. But Dak is only taking Ls against the Niners.

But who knows. Maybe the Cowboys receivers are superior this year. Maybe the O-Line is a little bit better. Collins resigned might give us some more depth, and maybe who knows.... the 49ers aren't deep in the O-Line either and maybe we can turn those sacks we had on Purdy last year to turnovers, and that would be a great help. Getting Purdy to turn it over is a real golden nugget.

maybe Pollard will have a good game against them who knows. He seems to be good or bad who knows when he's good who knows when he's bad. He was looking decent against them before the injury.
All of that is very true, but it still doesnt take away from the fact that Dak has to perform. We cant gloss over the fact that in the past vrs the 9ers Dak doesnt appear to be able step up when needed....remember in those two play-off losses he did have the ball to win/level both games late in the 4th.
 

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Im not even sure this cowboy team can beat SF

the offensive motion gets this defense everytime and Dak for the life of him cant play good against them
 

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They will probably be the most solid team were face in the playoffs but not one team this year looks "dominate" enough to walk away with things. However against them it's an upwards battle.

Cowboys do not play well / struggle against physical defenses. They will come in to shut down the run game(we have one?) like they normally do and force Dak into short passes. The few series we looked good against them especially last game was when we opened the field and took shots downfield. That one series we scored the TD we stretched the field and walked right down fairly easily.

Most games come down to who wins in the trenches however it can not be more important then this game.

Would love to see us stretch the field immediately if we end up playing them. Hit Cooks on a deep route right odd the bat.
 
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We can beat the Niners we just have to get mean
 

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IMO it's a bad matchup. The Dallas front 6-7 can't win at the LOS without reinforcement which leads to favorable coverages for the 49ers.

Now, if Dallas can maintain possession(win TOP) and score some points early and often it will put the 49ers in a position where they may have to play more risky on offense.
But this defense isn't an unit that can take long pounding drives all game. Eventually they will break.

49ers on defense can get pressure without sending the house. Their LB's are active over the middle and flats. It's a matchup that will require all 22 starters to play at their A game.
 

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Now maybe I've been in a coma the last 2 playoff losses vs the Niners but if I recall correctly we held them to 19 and 23 pts.
So our defense was tough enough and mean enough.
Can't expect to go to the Superbowl when your offense can't even score over 20 pts in 2 games.
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