This is scary

[bbgun]

Someone got a hold of my CC # last summer and did a little shopping on Amazon. Maybe this is how they got it.

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[BrAinPaiNt]

That is crazy. Good grief.

I am glad I got rid of mine except for the gas card.

Did not have time to watch the whole thing but did it also say something about debit/check cards or ATM cards?

 

[bbgun]

That is crazy. Good grief.

I am glad I got rid of mine except for the gas card.

Did not have time to watch the whole thing but did it also say something about debit/check cards or ATM cards?

Not that I recall. Good question, though.

 

[YosemiteSam]

They need to make RFID tags disabled by default. For instance, pushing a button or holding your hand over sensor before it will respond to scanning antenna. Mainly do when used with personal information that way random scanning isn't possible.

 

[hairic]

This is why I don't use RFID credit cards. The proof of concept for this "hack" goes back further than 2004. Back then, data was being broadcast in the clear, and all you needed was the ID to listen in; it was basically security through obscurity, which isn't security.

I don't know if any protocols to handle encryption have been developed or what it's like now, though. Probably still too expensive for general consumer use as that'd require a little computing power.

BTW, all you would need to prevent this is a shielded wallet, other than when you take the RFID out. <--- Edit: You can tell I didn't watch the video before replying here.

 

[DallasCowpoke]

Getting the CC # and exp date is bad but there's very little you can purchase in an on-line store or over the phone w/o the security code. Those RFID's don't transmit that #.

 

[Hoofbite]

That is crazy. Good grief.

I am glad I got rid of mine except for the gas card.

Did not have time to watch the whole thing but did it also say something about debit/check cards or ATM cards?

A while back I had my debit card shut down because someone got a scan of if from somewhere. I guess I scanned it at a machine that was rigged or something.

Anyway, the replacement card they sent me has the RFID thing in it where I can swipe to pay.

I would assume you could do it with any card that has the pay wave option.

 

[peplaw06]

That is crazy. Good grief.

I am glad I got rid of mine except for the gas card.

Did not have time to watch the whole thing but did it also say something about debit/check cards or ATM cards?

This video made it into my email inbox this morning. Scary stuff.

I think that the story says that debit cards can have RFID chips in them. The thing you need to look for on your card is this symbol.



I immediately checked all cards in my wallet. I only have debit cards in my wallet, but none of them have the symbol, so I cant personally confirm that some debit cards have RFID chips.

 

[tupperware]

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[theogt]

A few years ago I had someone not only steal my debit card info, but also my PIN. It was an ordeal getting my bank to refund because they took the position that if a thief uses your PIN to withdraw funds, you have to request video from the ATM to prove it wasn't you. By the time I noticed the funds gone, reported the unauthorized withdrawals (two $500 withdrawals) and got a response from the bank and realized that I needed to make a request for the ATM's video, 30 days had passed. The ATM (it was another bank's ATM) that was used to withdraw funds illegally had the unfortunate policy of deleting its video archive after 30 days. Thus, I couldn't prove it wasn't me and I was out of $1000. I should have switched banks after that, but I'm too lazy.

 

[UnoDallas]

hell there are even RFID chips in some car tires

hello big brother

Blocking RFID Signals ? Put your wallet and passport in aluminum carry case to block the signal. There are special wallets and passport cases sold on the Internet now that do a good job of this. Your RFID credit cards should be in the aluminum wallet to block their signal as well

Disabling RFID Chips ? When you buy an item (not a government issued passport or other id which is actually the property of the government that issued it) and they include an RFID tag with the item, the RFID tag is now your property and you can destroy it freely. Here are some ways to kill your RFID chips so they do not commit any further privacy invasion.

1. If you know where the RFID chip is hit it with a hammer hard a few times.
2. If you know where the RFID chip is puncture it with a knife or an ice pick a few times. They do not bleed. Attacks with a pliers or vise grip can also be rewarding.
3. If you can get visual access to the chip, sever its antenna so it can no longer transmit or bounce a signal back.
4. Put the chip in a microwave for five seconds. This will kill the chip but may get a little messy. Not so good for your microwave either so don''t keep doing this in that it could damage your microwave.
5. Possible Solution ? Place the RFID in an item on or in a demagnetizer. This may screw it up. Try it in magnetizer and demagnetizer mode.
6. Possible solution is to zap the RFID chip with a strong stun gun or taster several times. This should have some disabling effect.

 

[Hoofbite]

This video made it into my email inbox this morning. Scary stuff.

I think that the story says that debit cards can have RFID chips in them. The thing you need to look for on your card is this symbol.



I immediately checked all cards in my wallet. I only have debit cards in my wallet, but none of them have the symbol, so I cant personally confirm that some debit cards have RFID chips.

They do.

US Bank anyway.

I'm sure all the new cards that are issued will likely have them if you have US Bank.

I didn't ask for one. Just showed up. It's kind of a cool idea but looks really unsafe.

 

[Bigdog]

This reminds of a 20/20 episode that I saw a couple of years back. This guy was getting personal infomation on people by using this device and a computer. He showed the producer of the segment a 20 minute cell phone conversation that he had with his wife just before the segment. The producer was astonished and in disbelief. This guy just used some simple device much like this and that when he walked buy you, he coul pick up things in your wallet or purse. He had to use a brief case but with that info he got everything from SS#, medical info, credit card #'s, etc. It was pretty scary to know that there are people out there who would do this kind of stuff.

 

[casmith07]

After the holiday season's bill is paid off, I'm considering closing my credit card. I don't need it.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Someone got a hold of my CC # last summer and did a little shopping on Amazon. Maybe this is how they got it.

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There is a new cell phone company touting a mobile merchant service.

Thumbs down from me.

 

[Idgit]

I've been told by security experts that gas station debit transactions are the easiest to steal. The debit machines aren't all that secure physically, and your PIN numbers are stored with your debit card number on the local drives and are only protected with a limited encryption. Always use cc's at the pump if you can.