Tit for tat: Google Goes Thermonuclear

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Apple has been suing everyone even though they use others patents without paying for them. They don't just sue to get royalties either, they sue to completely shutout competing products. They only company they haven't sued? The one making the product they are most afraid of. Google.

It appears Google is tired of Apple's ****. Apple has went thermonuclear on Android by way of Android's hardware manufacturers, Google has now gone thermonuclear on Apple in retaliation. Not just attacking the iPhone and iPad. They are going after almost every single product Apple makes. They aren't just asking for royalies either. They want exactly what Apple has been asking for. Complete and total ban on the import and sale of all of Apples major products.

Apple and Steve Jobs were idiots when it came to dealing with Android. Start a patent war when you not only use patents, but use patents that you are refusing to paying to use. Not only that, the patents you have are only stupid design patents. (slide to unlock, rounded corners, etc)

This is a real shame that it had to come to this. Competition is not only good for innovation, but for consumers. Apple wants to take both away and now it maybe them that gets taken away.

GAME ON!

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It's how many patent trolls I can kill!

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Motorola's ITC Complaint Against Apple, With All the Trimmings

Monday, August 20 2012 @ 06:51 PM EDT

Here it is, the new complaint [PDF]

Motorola Mobility has lodged with the ITC. There are a zillion attachments, which I'll provide in full as we obtain them. Meanwhile, you can get started. The complaint begins on page 12 of the PDF.
The accused products include Apple's iPod Touch, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, iPad2, "the new Apple iPad (aka the iPad3), the Mac Pro, iMac, Mac mini, MacBook Pro, and MacBook Air. They ask for the following relief:

  • an immediate investigation pursuant to Section 337 of the Tariff Act of 1930;
  • setting of a target date of no more than 15 months;
  • a hearing to determine if there has been a violation of Section 337;
  • a permanent exclusion order directed to products manufactured by Apple, its subsidiaries, related companies and agents, "excluding entry into the United States of wireless communications devices, portable music and data processing devices, computers, and components thereof that infringe;
  • that a permanent cease and desist order issue prohibiting Apple and all the rest listed above from "engaging in the importation, sale for importation, marketing and/or advertising, distribution, offering for sale, sale, sale after importation, or other transfer within the United States of wireless communications devices, portable music..." etc.

In short, it's WWIII in the patent universe. Remember how we used to say that no one would ever be so foolish as to start a patent war, because it'd be destructive to everyone in it? Guess what? Apple decided on going thermonuclear, and here we are. Talk about your infinite loop. How wasteful is this?

One thing I discern: do not mess with Google. They have apparently an endless supply of ninja patent lawyers. This filing is by Quinn Emanuel, the same law firm that we've been watching represent Samsung against Apple in California. The mighty John Quinn's law firm, in other words. The complaint is signed by Charles K. Verhoeven.

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And The General Public Ends Up Paying For All Of This When They Pay For The Products.
 
Did someone say Thermonuclear?!?!

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WPBCowboysFan;4681486 said:
And The General Public Ends Up Paying For All Of This When They Pay For The Products.

Not if you can't purchase the products. Ask Samsung about Apple getting some of its devices banned from sales in regions of the world.

Apple has NOBODY to blame but themselves.
 
I will be rather upset if I can't give Apple some of my money this fall.
 
masomenos;4681815 said:
I will be rather upset if I can't give Apple some of my money this fall.

If so, blame Apple. They started this mess.
 
Sam I Am;4681479 said:
Apple has been suing everyone even though they use others patents without paying for them. They don't just sue to get royalties either, they sue to completely shutout competing products. They only company they haven't sued? The one making the product they are most afraid of. Google.

It appears Google is tired of Apple's ****. Apple has went thermonuclear on Android by way of Android's hardware manufacturers, Google has now gone thermonuclear on Apple in retaliation. Not just attacking the iPhone and iPad. They are going after almost every single product Apple makes. They aren't just asking for royalies either. They want exactly what Apple has been asking for. Complete and total ban on the import and sale of all of Apples major products.

Apple and Steve Jobs were idiots when it came to dealing with Android. Start a patent war when you not only use patents, but use patents that you are refusing to paying to use. Not only that, the patents you have are only stupid design patents. (slide to unlock, rounded corners, etc)

This is a real shame that it had to come to this. Competition is not only good for innovation, but for consumers. Apple wants to take both away and now it maybe them that gets taken away.

GAME ON!



===========================================


Motorola's ITC Complaint Against Apple, With All the Trimmings

Monday, August 20 2012 @ 06:51 PM EDT

Here it is, the new complaint [PDF]

Motorola Mobility has lodged with the ITC. There are a zillion attachments, which I'll provide in full as we obtain them. Meanwhile, you can get started. The complaint begins on page 12 of the PDF.
The accused products include Apple's iPod Touch, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, iPad2, "the new Apple iPad (aka the iPad3), the Mac Pro, iMac, Mac mini, MacBook Pro, and MacBook Air. They ask for the following relief:

  • an immediate investigation pursuant to Section 337 of the Tariff Act of 1930;
  • setting of a target date of no more than 15 months;
  • a hearing to determine if there has been a violation of Section 337;
  • a permanent exclusion order directed to products manufactured by Apple, its subsidiaries, related companies and agents, "excluding entry into the United States of wireless communications devices, portable music and data processing devices, computers, and components thereof that infringe;
  • that a permanent cease and desist order issue prohibiting Apple and all the rest listed above from "engaging in the importation, sale for importation, marketing and/or advertising, distribution, offering for sale, sale, sale after importation, or other transfer within the United States of wireless communications devices, portable music..." etc.

In short, it's WWIII in the patent universe. Remember how we used to say that no one would ever be so foolish as to start a patent war, because it'd be destructive to everyone in it? Guess what? Apple decided on going thermonuclear, and here we are. Talk about your infinite loop. How wasteful is this?

One thing I discern: do not mess with Google. They have apparently an endless supply of ninja patent lawyers. This filing is by Quinn Emanuel, the same law firm that we've been watching represent Samsung against Apple in California. The mighty John Quinn's law firm, in other words. The complaint is signed by Charles K. Verhoeven.

Complete Story

Holy ****. Things just got real. Sic 'em Google.
 
Patent system is irretrievably broken. But since everyone makes so much money off it at all levels, it will probably just ooze on along. Would actually require too much reasonableness to fix.
 
masomenos;4681815 said:
I will be rather upset if I can't give Apple some of my money this fall.

Sam I Am;4681848 said:
If so, blame Apple. They started this mess.

Yeah blame Apple. I hope this comes crashing down on them and they lose billions and also get their products banned in the US just like Apple did to Samsung and the Galaxy Tab. Serves them right for starting this nonsense.
 
JonJon;4682227 said:
Yeah blame Apple. I hope this comes crashing down on them and they lose billions and also get their products banned in the US just like Apple did to Samsung and the Galaxy Tab. Serves them right for starting this nonsense.

Like I said, yawn.
 
masomenos;4682265 said:
Like I said, yawn.

Probably wouldn't bother me either if it wasn't for the fact that I was about to buy the Galaxy Tab right before Apple got the ban slapped on it.

:chainsaw:

But like the article says, Apple also infringes on patents too so there was no need for them to stoop that low and it would only result in an opened can of worms. Time for them to get their comeuppance.
 
Dude. They all sue each other for patent infringement on a daily basis. This is nothing new. I have many friends and colleagues that make a living based on every major tech company suing every other major tech company. Then you get the patent trolls involved too. This is day to day business. Nothing new here.
 
theogt;4682432 said:
Dude. They all sue each other for patent infringement on a daily basis. This is nothing new. I have many friends and colleagues that make a living based on every major tech company suing every other major tech company. Then you get the patent trolls involved too. This is day to day business. Nothing new here.

Theo, Apple invented litigiousness (see: US 100011001, FIG. 3c) . If you won't recognize that, prepare to be sued.
 

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