Two devastating injuries, one silver lining

[nathanlt]

Forgive me for being positive here, but these season ending injuries bring one benefit to the team. In the 2024 NFL draft, the Cowboys will seek BPA without regard for the TE and LB positions. With the good drafting Dallas has done in many areas, the potential at those 2 positions with Overshown and Stevens, allows the Cowboys to focus on the O-line BPA a little more.

Of course, reaching for need can be avoided by trading up or down as necessary. The year long grind will reveal more weaknesses in position groups, but I think the Cowboys are loaded and probably will remain so for the rest of the year. Trading away future picks for a veteran now is not out of the question, because Dallas will have fewer targets in the 2024 draft.

 

[Xavier187]

There will be trades made and possibly FA signed. Our back up Oline is trash.
Let's wait and see what happens after this comming week

 

[plasticman]

NFL injuries are like a lottery you don't want to enter.

They happen. They are random and there is not too much you can do about it.

They are the reason why quarterbacks wear red jerseys in practice. They are the reason why many starters don't play preseason games. They are the reason that depth is so important.

Injuries are that element of bad luck that affect the entire season of a team and their opponents. Super Bowl teams aren't necessarily the best team on paper at the beginning of a season. In a way, they are the final survivors of the obstacles that are thrown in a team's path throughout a season and the most frequent of those obstacles are injuries.

Throughout Cowboys history, injuries have played a major role. I'm sure that's true of every team.

The Cowboy won their first Super Bowl after the 1971 season. The very next preseason, the Cowboys lost their Super Bowl MVP, Roger Staubach, for the entire regular season.

Mike Sherrard, a WR and #1 draft pick in 1986, had an outstanding rookie year. He was a great, instinctive receiver with world class speed. His mother was an Olympic runner. It was reported that he ran a 40 time of 4.23. He was drafted the same year the Cowboys got Hershel Walker after the USFL folded.

The following season Sherrard broke his leg in the preseason. A year later, while he was rehabbing, he broke his leg again jogging on the beach.

Linebacker Billy Cannon Jr., son of the legendary Heisman Trophy winner, was the Cowboys 1st round draft pick in 1984, the same draft in which LB Eugene "the hitting machine" Lockhart was a 6th round pick. Halfway through his rookie season he broke his neck tackling on a special teams play. The injury was so serious that his career was over.

Injuries are a fact of life in the NFL which is why NFL drafts are a good reason to celebrate potential. Any discussion of that players future success should always be tempered with the possibility of injury which is why a single player is never the answer when it comes to "filling a need". The focus should always be on improving the overall quality of a squad.

 

[plymkr]

Our LBer corp is thin as well. I’d love to resign Barr. Overshown hurt for 2 reasons, 1 is he would contribute this year and was trending upwards, 2 is it really hurts our LBer depth.

Also like the previous post, our offensive line depth is trash. Trash might be too good of a word. We basically have a 5 great starters and then practice squad players. We really need depth at offensive line and LBer.

 

[nathanlt]

NFL injuries are like a lottery you don't want to enter.

They happen. They are random and there is not too much you can do about it.

They are the reason why quarterbacks wear red jerseys in practice. They are the reason why many starters don't play preseason games. They are the reason that depth is so important.

Injuries are that element of bad luck that affect the entire season of a team and their opponents. Super Bowl teams aren't necessarily the best team on paper at the beginning of a season. In a way, they are the final survivors of the obstacles that are thrown in a team's path throughout a season and the most frequent of those obstacles are injuries.

Throughout Cowboys history, injuries have played a major role. I'm sure that's true of every team.

The Cowboy won their first Super Bowl after the 1971 season. The very next preseason, the Cowboys lost their Super Bowl MVP, Roger Staubach, for the entire regular season.

Mike Sherrard, a WR and #1 draft pick in 1986, had an outstanding rookie year. He was a great, instinctive receiver with world class speed. His mother was an Olympic runner. It was reported that he ran a 40 time of 4.23. He was drafted the same year the Cowboys got Hershel Walker after the USFL folded.

The following season Sherrard broke his leg in the preseason. A year later, while he was rehabbing, he broke his leg again jogging on the beach.

Linebacker Billy Cannon Jr., son of the legendary Heisman Trophy winner, was the Cowboys 1st round draft pick in 1984, the same draft in which LB Eugene "the hitting machine" Lockhart was a 6th round pick. Halfway through his rookie season he broke his neck tackling on a special teams play. The injury was so serious that his career was over.

Injuries are a fact of life in the NFL which is why NFL drafts are a good reason to celebrate potential. Any discussion of that players future success should always be tempered with the possibility of injury which is why a single player is never the answer when it comes to "filling a need". The focus should always be on improving the overall quality of a squad.

Despite my positive take, I see your point, and of course, it would be ideal to have zero injuries. I agree. Billy Cannon... don't remember him... but an ACL injury is recoverable from what I've heard.

I'm not celebrating the injuries, but hoping there's some good that comes from this generally negative news.

 

[Creeper]

Our LBer corp is thin as well. I’d love to resign Barr. Overshown hurt for 2 reasons, 1 is he would contribute this year and was trending upwards, 2 is it really hurts our LBer depth.

Also like the previous post, our offensive line depth is trash. Trash might be too good of a word. We basically have a 5 great starters and then practice squad players. We really need depth at offensive line and LBer.

They let Barr go and that was a good decision. Barr is not the same player he was years ago and he is a liability in the run game.

The have LVE, Parsons, Clark, Cox, Land, Malik Jefferson and Harper. Parsons and Land may be more pass rushers, but they will be on the field as LBs. They also like to play Kearse as a hybrid LB/S. I think they have what they need at LB. The biggest area of need on this team is OL depth. They really need a swing tackle in case Steele gets hurt again.

 

[nathanlt]

Our LBer corp is thin as well. I’d love to resign Barr. Overshown hurt for 2 reasons, 1 is he would contribute this year and was trending upwards, 2 is it really hurts our LBer depth.

Also like the previous post, our offensive line depth is trash. Trash might be too good of a word. We basically have a 5 great starters and then practice squad players. We really need depth at offensive line and LBer.

Right, I'm hoping that we make a trade based on the optimism that we get a TE and LB boost next year. Preseason made Overshown and Stevens known quantities... somewhat.

 

[rambo2]

There will be trades made and possibly FA signed. Our back up Oline is trash.
Let's wait and see what happens after this comming week

Why would another team trade an offensive lineman?

 

[ThatJerryKid]

Forgive me for being positive here, but these season ending injuries bring one benefit to the team. In the 2024 NFL draft, the Cowboys will seek BPA without regard for the TE and LB positions. With the good drafting Dallas has done in many areas, the potential at those 2 positions with Overshown and Stevens, allows the Cowboys to focus on the O-line BPA a little more.

Of course, reaching for need can be avoided by trading up or down as necessary. The year long grind will reveal more weaknesses in position groups, but I think the Cowboys are loaded and probably will remain so for the rest of the year. Trading away future picks for a veteran now is not out of the question, because Dallas will have fewer targets in the 2024 draft.

I would not consider either of the injuries “devastating”. Stevens was most likely practice squad material and Overshown, while talented, plays the same role as some of the more experienced players. Other than depth, he was going to see limited snaps this year anyway. Neither one is a huge loss that is going to have any real impact on this season.

 

[john van brocklin]

Forgive me for being positive here, but these season ending injuries bring one benefit to the team. In the 2024 NFL draft, the Cowboys will seek BPA without regard for the TE and LB positions. With the good drafting Dallas has done in many areas, the potential at those 2 positions with Overshown and Stevens, allows the Cowboys to focus on the O-line BPA a little more.

Of course, reaching for need can be avoided by trading up or down as necessary. The year long grind will reveal more weaknesses in position groups, but I think the Cowboys are loaded and probably will remain so for the rest of the year. Trading away future picks for a veteran now is not out of the question, because Dallas will have fewer targets in the 2024 draft.

Thanks for your positivity.
I guess their is a small silver lining in an otherwise depressing injury.

 

[blueblood70]

I would not consider either of the injuries “devastating”. Stevens was most likely practice squad material and Overshown, while talented, plays the same role as some of the more experienced players. Other than depth, he was going to see limited snaps this year anyway. Neither one is a huge loss that is going to have any real impact on this season.

while most of that is true ,i think you have it backwards.

Donovan Wilson and Javon Kearse are Ss that can play linebacker in a hybrid role..

Overshown like Cox was brought in to play linebacker but also can be safeties. see the difference here some are real linebackers that can sub in at safety but that not truly what Kearse and Dwill are.

Overshown was showing flashes to be the replacement for cox but was drafted to be a LB But also have some other roles like safety rushing the passer or converge.

so, we are a little a little thin at linebacker but not Safety..

 

[shabazz]

Forgive me for being positive here, but these season ending injuries bring one benefit to the team. In the 2024 NFL draft, the Cowboys will seek BPA without regard for the TE and LB positions. With the good drafting Dallas has done in many areas, the potential at those 2 positions with Overshown and Stevens, allows the Cowboys to focus on the O-line BPA a little more.

Of course, reaching for need can be avoided by trading up or down as necessary. The year long grind will reveal more weaknesses in position groups, but I think the Cowboys are loaded and probably will remain so for the rest of the year. Trading away future picks for a veteran now is not out of the question, because Dallas will have fewer targets in the 2024 draft.

I appreciate that there’s different ways to look at these injuries but I know that Quinn has to be heartbroken that his newly acquired weapon in OV wont be available all season…..he was truly a standout in TC and his short-lived preseason……I’m really bummed about it but have to look forward

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Why would another team trade an offensive lineman?

They won't. Not a good one anyway.

It might be possible for a pending FA at the deadline, but it's unlikely.

 

[plasticman]

Despite my positive take, I see your point, and of course, it would be ideal to have zero injuries. I agree. Billy Cannon... don't remember him... but an ACL injury is recoverable from what I've heard.

I'm not celebrating the injuries,but hoping there's some good that comes from this generally negative news.

I'm not criticizing your positivity, I was just using your post to inject a stoic take of the situation. My point was, we must accept these circumstances for what they are, an obstacle to overcome.

I'm in agreement that you don't want to overcome such an obstacle by trading away premium picks. You are only postponing an issue for one in the future which is decreasing the ability to upgrade talent quality.

On another positive note, how many times have the Cowboys discovered additional talent through an injury?

How much would we have known about Dak Prescott, Daron Bland, Terrance Steele, for example, had it not been for an injury?

 

[INCowboysFan]

Forgive me for being positive here, but these season ending injuries bring one benefit to the team. In the 2024 NFL draft, the Cowboys will seek BPA without regard for the TE and LB positions. With the good drafting Dallas has done in many areas, the potential at those 2 positions with Overshown and Stevens, allows the Cowboys to focus on the O-line BPA a little more.

Of course, reaching for need can be avoided by trading up or down as necessary. The year long grind will reveal more weaknesses in position groups, but I think the Cowboys are loaded and probably will remain so for the rest of the year. Trading away future picks for a veteran now is not out of the question, because Dallas will have fewer targets in the 2024 draft.

They were unlikely to go TE at all next year. Not with Ferg, Hendershot and Shoon. Plus Stephens will be back next year.

LB is a different story. You can always go LB somewhere in the draft for depth/ST play

 

[nathanlt]

They won't. Not a good one anyway.

It might be possible for a pending FA at the deadline, but it's unlikely.

Hopefully, because they've found quality talent in the draft, that makes the higher contract expendable. I'll give it to you, this rarely happens with offensive lineman. Who got O'Cyrus Torrence again?

 

[TNCowboy]

A 2nd string LB and a 5th string TE getting hurt are not devastating injuries.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Forgive me for being positive here, but these season ending injuries bring one benefit to the team. In the 2024 NFL draft, the Cowboys will seek BPA without regard for the TE and LB positions. With the good drafting Dallas has done in many areas, the potential at those 2 positions with Overshown and Stevens, allows the Cowboys to focus on the O-line BPA a little more.

Of course, reaching for need can be avoided by trading up or down as necessary. The year long grind will reveal more weaknesses in position groups, but I think the Cowboys are loaded and probably will remain so for the rest of the year. Trading away future picks for a veteran now is not out of the question, because Dallas will have fewer targets in the 2024 draft.

There is absolutely NO silver lining to losing Overshown this early to a season ending injury. NONE!!

 

[CowboyRoy]

I would not consider either of the injuries “devastating”. Stevens was most likely practice squad material and Overshown, while talented, plays the same role as some of the more experienced players. Other than depth, he was going to see limited snaps this year anyway. Neither one is a huge loss that is going to have any real impact on this season.

I disagree. Overshown would have grown into a significant role getting further into the season. He would have been hard to keep off the field. And if LVE were to go down he would have been starting.

 

[J-man]

They let Barr go and that was a good decision. Barr is not the same player he was years ago and he is a liability in the run game.

The have LVE, Parsons, Clark, Cox, Land, Malik Jefferson and Harper. Parsons and Land may be more pass rushers, but they will be on the field as LBs. They also like to play Kearse as a hybrid LB/S. I think they have what they need at LB. The biggest area of need on this team is OL depth. They really need a swing tackle in case Steele gets hurt again.

They have one, but for some reason he's the starting LT.