What would you think of public option internet?

Galian Beast

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Similarly to how we have a highway system, except in this scenario the government would take bids on a contract from current providers, to build and maintain the system.

What sense does it make that so many of us spend anywhere between 25-100+ dollars a month on internet, whether it be our phones or land connections?

And to make things worse, there is still places where you can access internet.
 

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Galian Beast;4620796 said:
Similarly to how we have a highway system, except in this scenario the government would take bids on a contract from current providers, to build and maintain the system.

What sense does it make that so many of us spend anywhere between 25-100+ dollars a month on internet, whether it be our phones or land connections?

And to make things worse, there is still places where you can access internet.

Yeah, I’m all for another quasi-government controlled system like the Post Office, electric company, gas company (insert any utility), the old AT&T, and the like.

There is no way this thread will not get political.
 

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Jammer;4620811 said:
Yeah, I’m all for another quasi-government controlled system like the Post Office, electric company, gas company (insert any utility), the old AT&T, and the like.

There is no way this thread will not get political.

I actually think the Post Office is a fairly decent example. Although a bit different.
 

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Galian Beast;4620856 said:
I actually think the Post Office is a fairly decent example. Although a bit different.

They're billions in the red. Even though they are not supported by taxpayers they're not allowed to do things without government approval, and as such they can't do things as well as if they were private. If I need something shipped I seldom think of the USPS, because I need to know it'll get there when it's supposed to get there. I can't say that about the USPS.

If the government had their say in Internet service I can't imagine the strides we've had over the last few years as far as broadband speeds. It sounds good in therory about everyone getting Internet service, but I also want to know I can get speeds above 56k.
 

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I would oppose it because, as a general rule, the private sector provides goods and services much more efficiently and productively than the public sector.

It's very rare that government programs and services generate profit; consequently, they subsist almost entirely at the expense of the private sector.

The only instances in which the government should provide goods and services are when other concerns, such as the need for a social safety net, outweigh efficiency. And even then, the intrusion should be minimal and carefully assessed.
 

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I read it, and I can not find anything in the Constitution about providing Internet access.
 

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Yes they should take it over, monitor all that you do, then tax you if you don't use it. /s
 

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jobberone;4620915 said:
Yes they should take it over, monitor all that you do, then tax you if you don't use it. /s

i c wut u did thar
 

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Jammer;4620811 said:
Yeah, I’m all for another quasi-government controlled system like the Post Office, electric company, gas company (insert any utility), the old AT&T, and the like.

There is no way this thread will not get political.

More government involvement in people's personal lives and services is, well, ... completely stupid.
 

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The USPS is in the red because of congress. And as I said the mail is a really separate business than internet.

I think the model holds up though, as applied to something else.

What I would suggest for a public option however would involve private companies bidding on the contract to manufacturer and maintain the national service. So it wouldn't necessarily be the government running it, although there would obviously need to be some sort of regulation similar to what there is now. And in terms of pricing.

I'd also suggest an opt out option. Say you want to use your own private internet service, then you could show that on your tax returns, and be tax exempt for that service.

No one says that the service has to be slow. I'm not sure where that assumption came from.

Private sector often runs up the price as we currently see with internet, especially if there is no public option.

Wimbo, where in the constitution did it mention creating NASA?
 

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CowboyMcCoy;4620985 said:
More government involvement in people's personal lives and services is, well, ... completely stupid.
hence the word "option."
 

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:lmao2: Gimme gimme gimme??


Does that hand ever get tired of things waiting to fall into it? :p:



Our great nation is full of folks wanting the sun but thinking it should be handed to them.


Sad times ya'll...sad sad times.
 

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Galian Beast;4620987 said:
The USPS is in the red because of congress. And as I said the mail is a really separate business than internet.

I think the model holds up though, as applied to something else.

What I would suggest for a public option however would involve private companies bidding on the contract to manufacturer and maintain the national service. So it wouldn't necessarily be the government running it, although there would obviously need to be some sort of regulation similar to what there is now. And in terms of pricing.

I'd also suggest an opt out option. Say you want to use your own private internet service, then you could show that on your tax returns, and be tax exempt for that service.

No one says that the service has to be slow. I'm not sure where that assumption came from.

Private sector often runs up the price as we currently see with internet, especially if there is no public option.

Wimbo, where in the constitution did it mention creating NASA?

I bet Solyndra wins the bid.
 

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Dallas;4621004 said:
:lmao2: Gimme gimme gimme??


Does that hand ever get tired of things waiting to fall into it? :p:



Our great nation is full of folks wanting the sun but thinking it should be handed to them.


Sad times ya'll...sad sad times.


This is a fundamental error in thought process.

Who said gimme gimme gimme...

It wouldn't be free. It would cost money in the form of taxes, that said the cost would be significantly lower than the amount of money america spends on internet costs every year.

Head scratcher...
 

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Thanks to the private sector, there are currently more people with Internet access than there ever have been at any point in the past, and the quality of the Internet experience continues to improve.

Yet, for some inexplicable, some people want to involve the government.

Head scratcher.
 

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ScipioCowboy;4621017 said:
Thanks to the private sector, there are currently more people with Internet access than there ever have been at any point in the past, and the quality of the Internet experience continues to improve.

Yet, for some inexplicable, some people want to involve the government.

Head scratcher.
How exactly would the govt affect any of that?
 

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Zordon;4621018 said:
How exactly would the govt affect any of that?

Because you're involving the government in the distribution of resources.
 

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ScipioCowboy;4621019 said:
Because you're involving the government in the distribution of resources.
Not really seeing your point. A public option is exactly what it's supposed to be, an option. Meaning you have choice to participate or not.
 

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Zordon;4621020 said:
Not really seeing your point. A public option is exactly what it's supposed to be, an option. Meaning you have choice to participate or not.

So you have the option to pay the tax or not?
 
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