Which Receivers Need to Get Involved Early

[percyhoward]

At least one catch in the first quarter (w/W-L record):
Glenn 7-5
Owens 7-2
Witten 7-3
Crayton 6-2

At least one catch in the first possession:
Glenn 2-5
Owens 3-1
Witten 4-1
Crayton 2-0

With the exception of those bizzarre stats for TG, the receiver who needs to get involved early is ANY receiver.

Which receivers do we try to get involved early?
receiver/times targeted in 1st qtr
Owens 34
Glenn 26
Witten 17
Crayton 10

 

[SupermanXx]

good stats but I think the last bit (total 1st quarter targets) would be better over a per/game avg

 

[SupermanXx]

or better yet, make a list of each game and the amount of times for each

(I don't have a freakin edit button anymore for some gay reason)

 

[percyhoward]

good stats but I think the last bit (total 1st quarter targets) would be better over a per/game avg

Thanks. Better for what, though?

 

[SupermanXx]

well for example, we could have thrown to TO 34 times in the 1st quarter in one game... doesn't mean he's been involved early in every game... (that's obviously an exxageration)

 

[Mr Cowboy]

That's stupid.......the QB should throw to whoever is open. TO should just shut up and catch the ball. If him being a decoy all game wins us a ball game, he should just shut up and be happy we won. If he doesn't get the ball untill the 4th quarter and we win, again just shut up and be happy.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

At least one catch in the first quarter (w/W-L record):
Glenn 7-5
Owens 7-2
Witten 7-3
Crayton 6-2

At least one catch in the first possession:
Glenn 2-5
Owens 3-1
Witten 4-1
Crayton 2-0

With the exception of those bizzarre stats for TG, the receiver who needs to get involved early is ANY receiver.

Which receivers do we try to get involved early?
receiver/times targeted in 1st qtr
Owens 34
Glenn 26
Witten 17
Crayton 10

I respectfully disagree. Its not ANY receiver. Its TO. See Atlanta game.
He is the dagger on this team. The dagger needs to shown, aimed and then inserted sooner than later.

 

[percyhoward]

I respectfully disagree. Its not ANY receiver. Its TO. See Atlanta game.
He is the dagger on this team. The dagger needs to shown, aimed and then inserted sooner than later.

You can pick out the Atlanta game, where he had 2 first quarter catches, finished with 5 catches and 2 TD's in a win. You could also look at the Houston game, where he was shut out in the first quarter and finished with 3 TD's in a win, etc...

The knife analogy sounds good, but looking at all the games, Witten (or even Crayton) would have just as good an argument about getting involved early. It's a non-issue.

 

[percyhoward]

well for example, we could have thrown to TO 34 times in the 1st quarter in one game... doesn't mean he's been involved early in every game... (that's obviously an exxageration)

He hasn't been involved early in every game, but he's not alone obviously. And his early involvement isn't any more of a recipe for success than say, Witten's.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

You can pick out the Atlanta game, where he had 2 first quarter catches, finished with 5 catches and 2 TD's in a win. You could also look at the Houston game, where he was shut out in the first quarter and finished with 3 TD's in a win, etc...

The knife analogy sounds good, but looking at all the games, Witten (or even Crayton) would have just as good an argument about getting involved early. It's a non-issue.

You cannot equate any of our good players with what TO can bring to the table threat-wise... you cant....

He hasn't been involved early in every game, but he's not alone obviously. And his early involvement isn't any more of a recipe for success than say, Witten's.

TO and many plays will equal more success... teams must be laughing at us... other OC's would have TO heavily involved....

 

[percyhoward]

You cannot equate any of our good players with what TO can bring to the table threat-wise... you cant........

You'll get no argument from me on that. TO is Romo's best weapon. But when he says "he" has to be involved early, he might as well say "we." Because the fact is, his early involvement in games hasn't been any more important than other receivers'.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

You'll get no argument from me on that. TO is Romo's best weapon. But when he says "he" has to be involved early, he might as well say "we." Because the fact is, his early involvement in games hasn't been any more important than other receivers'.

Bravo, someone needs to put the lie to the idea Owens represents any more of an "early threat" than any other receiver.

ALL receivers are rhythm affected. There is only ONE common sense approach to offense and that is to throw to the OPEN man.

 

[Rack]

At least one catch in the first quarter (w/W-L record):
Glenn 7-5
Owens 7-2
Witten 7-3
Crayton 6-2

At least one catch in the first possession:
Glenn 2-5
Owens 3-1
Witten 4-1
Crayton 2-0

With the exception of those bizzarre stats for TG, the receiver who needs to get involved early is ANY receiver.

Which receivers do we try to get involved early?
receiver/times targeted in 1st qtr
Owens 34
Glenn 26
Witten 17
Crayton 10

These stats are meaningless when our D gives up 7 minute TD drive after 7 minute TD drive.

The problem is defense, not offense.

 

[DipChit]

These stats are meaningless when our D gives up 7 minute TD drive after 7 minute TD drive.

The problem is defense, not offense.

Perhaps. But I get the feeling this particular game could still be going on in the 40th quarter and no matter how many points the D gave up we'd still be stuck on 7.

I asked the question the other day wondering if in any particular playoff game we lost 20-17 how many would hang a game like that on the D and how many would hang it on the O.

I think after yesterday theres prolly no question which way the voting would go.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Bravo, someone needs to put the lie to the idea Owens represents any more of an "early threat" than any other receiver.

ALL receivers are rhythm affected. There is only ONE common sense approach to offense and that is to throw to the OPEN man.

Exactly. Isn't Owens at or near the top of the league in passes thrown to? Looks to me like Romo is looking to him all game long.

If he wants to be involved early, he should try getting open early.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Exactly. Isn't Owens at or near the top of the league in passes thrown to? Looks to me like Romo is looking to him all game long.

If he wants to be involved early, he should try getting open early.

I don't care if Tony has to try to thread a needle between two defenders to get it to Owens...but at the very least, run the right route, and run it cleanly, so the kid has half a chance.

 

[percyhoward]

These stats are meaningless when our D gives up 7 minute TD drive after 7 minute TD drive.

The problem is defense, not offense.

Offense is definitely not the problem. In fact, I was saying it doesn't matter which receiver gets involved early in the game.

 

[percyhoward]

Bravo, someone needs to put the lie to the idea Owens represents any more of an "early threat" than any other receiver.

That's what I was going for. Just because he says it, doesn't make it true. And I wasn't thinking he was basing what he said on any kind of statistical anaylis, but I was curious to see if it happened to be true anyway.

Turns out it isn't.