Will Shotty bring his own offense, or use last years offense?

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Goodness knows our offense needs a refresher or a change, I'm curious to know what offense we will be running with this season. Will it be the same, use some of his/what we had last year, or a complete overhaul! So many questions to be answered. Please give your thoughts on what you think he'll do.....
 
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Same offense with slight modifications. The whole reason Schottenheimer was hired was to keep continuity. You might see different run/pass splits. You might see things ran out of different formations, but largely the offense will be running the same plays and concepts as they have been.
 

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probably a blend.
he's coached for awhile in this league.
he'll cherry pick then tweak.
 

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Same offense with slight modifications. The whole reason Schottenheimer was hired was to keep continuity. You might see different run/pass splits. You might see things ran out of different formations, but largely the offense will be running the same plays and concepts as they have been.
Sounds good it's all about making the defense actually think, we struggle with that! Make them work, let's not make it easy on them
 

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Kinda simple….add the right players and there’s a shot at success. Don’t, and there won’t be.

This team loses more games in March than any other, and they not only can’t see that, they think what they are doing is the perfect strategy.

Still waiting for Philly and the Rams to end up paying that heavy price for trying to win.

“Not sustainable”
 
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Sounds good it's all about making the defense actually think, we struggle with that! Make them work, let's not make it easy on them
This. Going back to Garrett, then with Moore as playcaller, then McCarthy, I kept reading comments from players around the league how predictable the Cowboys offense was.

In the press conference, Schotty mentioned using more presnap shifts and motion to confuse reads, more tempo, and marrying run and pass looks so they can better disguise the play. I'll wait to see how things actually look, but those comments are promising
 

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The whole point of bringing in Schotty was to keep Dak comfortable. Given Dak has probably learned as much as he can and his physical skills are in decline I see little hope of improvement unless there is a significant talent boost via FA and the draft..
 

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Goodness knows our offense needs a refresher or a change, I'm curious to know what offense we will be running with this season. Will it be the same, use some of his/what we had last year, or a complete overhaul! So many questions to be answered. Please give your thoughts on what you think he'll do.....
From my reading of the tea leaves, it seems like in 2023 we started the year with MM offense from GB. It struggled, while the team played well... primarily due to a high rate of turnovers and defensive/ST scores. After the loss to the 49ers the Cowboys retooled their offense to bring in more of the KM offense and more shifts, runs, and play action. It worked. "The Cowboys' high-octane offense has hit another gear since being stifled in Santa Clara, averaging 35.8 points per game since the 49ers' stout defense limited them to 10 points in Week 5. " ( https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nf...ss-to-49ers-shifted-cowboys-identity/1680772/ )

After this season CeeDee spoke about how they need to get back to that kind of offense and assured us that they would.

I have to imagine, with that information as context, and what Shotty said at it PC, we will see an offense more similar to 2023, than 2024.
 

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Goodness knows our offense needs a refresher or a change, I'm curious to know what offense we will be running with this season. Will it be the same, use some of his/what we had last year, or a complete overhaul! So many questions to be answered. Please give your thoughts on what you think he'll do.....


I hope it's more like the offense that Rush was using. Needs to be more conservative and run heavy. Dak is obviously better than Rush, but he isn't a top QB (I don't care what he gets paid) Dak needs a running game, play action pass type offense with less reads because he struggles reading the defense.
 

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I hope it's more like the offense that Rush was using. Needs to be more conservative and run heavy. Dak is obviously better than Rush, but he isn't a top QB (I don't care what he gets paid) Dak needs a running game, play action pass type offense with less reads because he struggles reading the defense.
YES!!!! There's a noticeable difference I like the offense we use with rush
 

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From my reading of the tea leaves, it seems like in 2023 we started the year with MM offense from GB. It struggled, while the team played well... primarily due to a high rate of turnovers and defensive/ST scores. After the loss to the 49ers the Cowboys retooled their offense to bring in more of the KM offense and more shifts, runs, and play action. It worked. "The Cowboys' high-octane offense has hit another gear since being stifled in Santa Clara, averaging 35.8 points per game since the 49ers' stout defense limited them to 10 points in Week 5. " ( https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nf...ss-to-49ers-shifted-cowboys-identity/1680772/ )

After this season CeeDee spoke about how they need to get back to that kind of offense and assured us that they would.

I have to imagine, with that information as context, and what Shotty said at it PC, we will see an offense more similar to 2023, than 2024.
Can't say we're going to do this and that only to do it after the bye week
 

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Goodness knows our offense needs a refresher or a change, I'm curious to know what offense we will be running with this season. Will it be the same, use some of his/what we had last year, or a complete overhaul! So many questions to be answered. Please give your thoughts on what you think he'll do.....
I think you are asking for thoughts from the wrong people. You should go get the players thoughts. :muttley:

But I will chime in with my thoughts anyway.

We will see basically the same type of offense. With the exception, and hopefully his improvement. He already said they will use more motion.
The only motion they used, was for 7 plays this year. The Landry Shift.

I think they need more screens, and slants. They use the roll out and throw to the TE coming across the field to the flats or around the hash marks pretty effectively. Then they get away from it.
Which reminds me, the need more crossing patterns as well. Dez was great at those. Which we need another Dez type WR. Higgins would be great to bring in. But he will cost too much.

Also need to go deep more. But a great run game will help with all of that.

Take the bread and butter play KC used for years, and with success. Teams finally started to defend it better, but it is still successful most of the time. Other teams started using it as well.
So you keep a RB or WR hanging back, out toward the sideline. Run players down field or the opposite side. And if a play is not there. Maohomes would simply throw it to the player hanging back. Good for a 1st down and a good 10 yards about every time.

Maybe I should go be the OC. :laugh:
 

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Well I think it will mostly be the same. Maybe a little more play action but this also requires the clowns up top adding some much needed talent at the skill positions. If they hamstring him I don't see him being able to do too much different but if they can draft/sign a few pieces it will help open up any playbook.
 

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I think you are asking for thoughts from the wrong people. You should go get the players thoughts. :muttley:

But I will chime in with my thoughts anyway.

We will see basically the same type of offense. With the exception, and hopefully his improvement. He already said they will use more motion.
The only motion they used, was for 7 plays this year. The Landry Shift.

I think they need more screens, and slants. They use the roll out and throw to the TE coming across the field to the flats or around the hash marks pretty effectively. Then they get away from it.
Which reminds me, the need more crossing patterns as well. Dez was great at those. Which we need another Dez type WR. Higgins would be great to bring in. But he will cost too much.

Also need to go deep more. But a great run game will help with all of that.

Take the bread and butter play KC used for years, and with success. Teams finally started to defend it better, but it is still successful most of the time. Other teams started using it as well.
So you keep a RB or WR hanging back, out toward the sideline. Run players down field or the opposite side. And if a play is not there. Maohomes would simply throw it to the player hanging back. Good for a 1st down and a good 10 yards about every time.

Maybe I should go be the OC. :laugh:
I stopped where you said MOTION, i'll wait to see it before I read anymore of this!!
 
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