Would you trade up in the second for Van Pran

[darthseinfeld]

I think Van Pran is going to be a 25-45 guy, with 45is being his floor. I think he has a much better chance of rising then falling. Personally I think he is better prospect then Linderbaum was

If he is there in the 40's, would you consider a move up in the second similar to the D-Law trade. That cost us a 3rd.

If you get a quality OT in the first, your OL is significantly improved for a long period of time in less that 24 hours

 

[Carter]

This is the Center i like most in this Draft but i wouldnt trade up for a Center for 15+ spots. Thats too expensive and we already dont have much picks this year.

 

[darthseinfeld]

This is the Center i like most in this Draft but i wouldnt trade up for a Center for 15+ spots. Thats too expensive and we already dont have much picks this year.

I think I would if we got an OT in the first. You just solidified your OL with top talent a decade. Thats worth not picking again until the 6th in one draft.

 

[Montanalo]

I don't think there is much of a drop-off between Van Pran and either Jackson Powers-Johnson or Zach Frazier, both of whom could be had in the late 2nd to late 3rd rounds.

I agree, however, that we need to address the center position this offseason.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I don't think there is much of a drop-off between Van Pran and either Jackson Powers-Johnson or Zach Frazier, both of whom could be had in the late 2nd to late 3rd rounds.

I agree, however, that we need to address the center position this offseason.

I think Van Pran is top tier. I think he could have a Frederick like impact. Reminds me so much of Markice Pouncey

 

[Plankton]

I think Van Pran is top tier. I think he could have a Frederick like impact. Reminds me so much of Markice Pouncey

Depending on where they select, and the lack of picks in the 4-6 round range, it may be worth trading out of the first into the upper second, get some mid round capital, and take Van Pran there in the second.

 

[Carter]

Depending on where they select, and the lack of picks in the 4-6 round range, it may be worth trading out of the first into the upper second, get some mid round capital, and take Van Pran there in the second.

i would do that if the Tackles they like arent available. A 2013 Travis Frederick kinda Draft

 

[Sydla]

Ehhhh, we have so few picks as it is, I don't think we can trade away even more assets to go chase a center.

In fact, I would be totally fine if some of the better OTs were off the board that we trade back with our first round pick and try to add a couple more 2nr or 3rd or 4th round picks in the draft.

 

[Hardline]

I think Van Pran is top tier. I think he could have a Frederick like impact. Reminds me so much of Markice Pouncey

Selling point. I would pull the trigger if Van Pran got within 10-15 spots of us.
We desperately need another Travis Frederick.

 

[Cowboyny]

I think Van Pran is going to be a 25-45 guy, with 45is being his floor. I think he has a much better chance of rising then falling. Personally I think he is better prospect then Linderbaum was

If he is there in the 40's, would you consider a move up in the second similar to the D-Law trade. That cost us a 3rd.

If you get a quality OT in the first, your OL is significantly improved for a long period of time in less that 24 hours

Think the Cowboys have to do what it takes to fix their anemic run game, if that means trading up for a lineman, so be it!

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Yes - if you think he's the guy, go get him. If you think he's Travis Frederick, I don't care if you move all the way up into the back end of the first to get him.

The holes on this OL and the depth of this OL draft class are too well aligned to try to hope a guy falls.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Ehhhh, we have so few picks as it is, I don't think we can trade away even more assets to go chase a center.

In fact, I would be totally fine if some of the better OTs were off the board that we trade back with our first round pick and try to add a couple more 2nr or 3rd or 4th round picks in the draft.

I see that, but.....

A very strong OL makes it alot easier to fill things down the line. You have a line of say Mims, Tyler and Van Pran, your running game and pass pro can be on an elite level for the 10 years. Id sacrifice a 3rd for that

 

[Sydla]

I see that, but.....

A very strong OL makes it alot easier to fill things down the line. You have a line of say Mims, Tyler and Van Pran, your running game and pass pro can be on an elite level for the 10 years. Id sacrifice a 3rd for that

And if we had picks to make it work, sure.

But on a team that literally has said they don't use FA to address needs, that their roster building comes through the draft you can't do this.

We have needs beyond the OL. LB is a big concern. DT is an issue. They will need help at RB because they likely won't sign Pollard. I can't be throwing away a 3rd round pick and maybe more to chase a center.

 

[RS12]

I would. Biadacz isnt worth paying, They probably draft offense early and then try and plug some holes on defense in FA.

 

[TasteMyScythe]

I really don't think Van Pran is that much better than Powers-Johnson or Fraiser to give up draft capitol.
If Van Pran is the target than you trade out of the first and take him with the acquired pick.
I can hear some of you now,,,Oh, No! We need to use that first on an OT.
My early thoughts on a OT is that Jerry is going to resign Tyron for a year or two. This allowing Richards to develop.
I believe Jerry feels that in order to win a SB with Dak that he needs to keep Tyron on the left side. Adding a rookie, even a late first round rookie in a loaded class, to protect Daks blind side is a gamble. He would rather gamble with Tyron. Jerry likes his players, especially players who have been loyal to him.

 

[Sandyf]

I think you wait because no one really knows where he will actually be ranked. Many great centers who we think are high picks for late 1st or 2nd round picks fall to the 3rd round. Good thing to check is the center position on the other 31 teams and what there needs are. I like Van Pran but I believe we could get him late 2nd or even early 3rd. We know QB, WR, DE and CB are going to dominate the 1st 40 picks along with OT so I wouldn't overpay for him. We need an OT more than most think because Tyler Smith seems to be the next Zach Martin except on the left side.

Best thing to happen is we win the Super Bowl, draft at 32 and some team wants that spot for a 5th year option player. Say Washington doesn't want someone to jump them to #1 and offer #2, #36 and #41 to move up one slot to draft Caleb WIlliams at QB. Then Chicago take Harrison at #2 and a DE at #10 but want Lassiter at CB so they offer Dallas #36 and #41 and there 3rd in 2024 for Dallas #32, #64 and #96 then Dallas in theory could take Kingsley Suamataia OT at 36, Bryon Murray CB at 46 and Sedrick Van Pran OC at 76 and Braelon Allen RB at 129. That would be a successful draft. Now if we would/could/should sign Justin Madubuike DT in free agency and Patrick Queen ILB then very, very, very happy.

 

[zrinkill]

Don't understand the desire to replace Biadasz, I only see him get beat occasionally by the best in the game. Steel is more of a worry. Guard and tackle are much more important in my opinion.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

You can't go cheap at C anymore. Teams are isolating their best pass rushers on centers all the time.

 

[Sydla]

You can't go cheap at C anymore. Teams are isolating their best pass rushers on centers all the time.

You also can't use whatever little draft capital you have to go chase a C in the 2nd round either.

This team has limited cap space and they have been quite clear that the draft is where they fix the roster, FA is just bandaids.

We will likely have 6 picks in this draft. In order to move up in the 2nd, it would cost you your 3rd (we have no 4th or 5th) or future picks.

Can't do it. We need all three of those top picks this year.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

You also can't use whatever little draft capital you have to go chase a C in the 2nd round either.

Sure you can.

Assuming Biadasz is gone, C/OT are the biggest holes on the roster by a mile.

You're better off making only two picks in this draft and getting 2 OL starters than drafting a bunch of depth guys at LB and DT.