Draft: Let's be realistic

[exciter]

AND there are some (I will even say many), my self included, here who said yeah lets get that much much needed WR and RB in first 3 rounds, only to come to a realization that the guys they got there were absolute GREAT picks. Even after Booker, I was like "good pick and hey we can still get our WR and RB", then when DE was picked, I was like "another really great guy for the value and we can get a great RB in Kaleb Johnson/Dylan Sampson at #76", well when #76 was getting close I said "wow Revel is still there, no way in all heck do you let him get away. You pick him"

Sure enough they did, still got a good RB amongst other guys who will help in the trenches later in the draft. It was a very good draft. Just have to take a step back, breathe, and be honest in your evaluation. Been a long time it seems that we had this good a draft. We will see, but looks good.

I’m not all that sure it wasn’t Revel in the discussion when they took Donovan Ez… in the 2nd.
Just wasn’t much way they could walk away with him there!

 

[OmerV]

The Cowboys went into the draft with only 10 picks not 20.

Yep

 

[OmerV]

It was a good draft. The issue is this team has been a joke for 30 years and there were / are too many holes to fill with this draft. Not enough premium picks. Good draft. It will help but this team is not close to be championship quality.

I don’t disagree with this, just saying people are unrealistic with their expectations in one draft

 

[OmerV]

sorry B+++++ And I hope this triggers you seriously if you look at it it doesn't make sense unless you piece it together with the free agent acquisitions it doesn't seem like much but they seem to have a vision and a plan and they're putting it together I know you don't think so but I have to disagree i'm gonna give it a chance that means watch all 17 games and then we can have this discussion at the end of the year and I still think they're gonna add people there's gonna be a trade for a wide receiver or they're gonna bring a guy over like Keenan Allen or Amari Cooper something's gonna happen hell they can even bring over Breeze Hall still we don't know so why don't you can the negativity until you see the cut downs until we're leading in say 10 days going into game one in September and then we can have a real conversation because in my opinion you're a little too fast on the trigger to be negative act like we didn't do absolutely anything if you look at the deep part we're not looking at candy you know I candy we're not looking at Quick Trich fan satisfying pics we're looking at trenches we're looking at trying to make the team better even if you think we didn't improve our weaknesses..

Back like the off season did nothing are you trying to tell me that Dante Fowler bringing his 10 1/2 sacks back here doesn't help and then draft a dude that had 16 1/2 sacks last year and to bring over a former first round guy Turner may turn out to be nothing but he can also turn out to be something I like the linebacker room before the draft I do not like and the only part of the draft I do not like


Was them trading back up I don't remember it was the 5th round and picking that Florida linebacker it made no sense because they could have got 2 for 1 they probably could have got him anyway but they wasted an opportunity to get another player that's the only part of the draft I don't like the rest of it I understand because if you look at it with the big picture a lot of it fits maybe none of these guys will workout but maybe a lot of them will maybe you don't know what scouts know maybe you don't know what the pro coaches had in mind when they wanted to build this team maybe they're doubling down on some of these defensive tackles and these offensive lineman and they're going to make sure they come out of training camp with the best group they can possibly come out with.


Dude you gotta admit first of all you you could be down on last year all you want until you admit injuries were the biggest problem not the lack of offseason moves not the lack of draftees not the lack of bringing in Derek Henry this team was doomed when it had 18 injuries just like San Francisco you're not going to win games when you have catastrophic injuries across the board all over your team the key injuries and not only to one part of a group but an entire group wiped out our corners and and our pass rocers and linebackers just got wiped out.

So those three 12 win seasons that got two division titles in 36 wins three playoff appearances in a row we had that type of offseason we had that type of draft if you can avoid having that kind of injury late in season then we're going to be better if you can win 7 games with basically a practice squad you're trying to tell me the things they've done up to this point with still five months to go we're not going to be improved like not at all is that what you're trying to tell me that's okay you have an opinion you know allow you to have one but I have mine I think this is AB plus draft it is AB plus offseason so far with a lot of room to grow and I'm not saying it's our year i'm not saying we're making an NFC championship game i'm not saying we're going to the Super Bowl i'm just trying to tell you that I do see that they have a plan and they're trying to get the pieces to fulfill it..
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I quit reading when I quickly realized it was the start of an incredibly and uniquely long winded rant, much of which had nothing to with what I wrote, and you did so with no punctuation. Lol

 

[Mr_437]

Building block for the future. The premium picks matter the most imo. 3 players aren't going to significantly change the team this season, but they can help stabilize their positions. The OL is set for the next few years or longer with Booker. Micah, Kneeland and EZE look like the start of a explosive group. Revel and Bland are two Big CBs who tackle in the run game, and cover well.

Next offseason, OL/DE/CB shouldn't need premium picks leaving WR/RB/TE for Offense and 1T/LB/S for Defense.Good thing is there are players at these positions that can step up like Ferg, Mazi, Liaufa and Bell.

 

[ShiningStar]

So many here saying Cowboys had a bad draft while every media source says it was B+ or better. Obviously media can be wrong too, but all giving the draft a strong grade can’t just be brushed aside as meaningless.

Did Cowboys address every need? No. Were the needs addressed all done so with the ideal player? Again, no.

Is that really the expectation? If so, it’s unrealistic.

Sure some could argue (and did) we needed to draft a RB higher. Or a big DT. Many have specific players they are upset Cowboys passed on. Complaints are all over the board as to what the Cowboys messed up, and all that complain think their take on what was bungled is the right one.

Obviously the myriad of takes on what was messed up can’t all be right, no matter how sure each person is of themselves.

Ultimately we have to be realistic about the draft. It can’t cure all things, it can’t make ever fan happy, and it is not an exact science where the players chosen carry any guarantees, good or bad.

Media gets paid, they have a paycheck if they are wrong or right, the paycheck does not reflect that.

you dont have to be right, See Kiper

you dont ahve to say anything, See S Smith

you dont have to be likable, See the annoying one, Skip, thats it

but you WILL collect a check

 

[gimmesix]

So many here saying Cowboys had a bad draft while every media source says it was B+ or better. Obviously media can be wrong too, but all giving the draft a strong grade can’t just be brushed aside as meaningless.

Did Cowboys address every need? No. Were the needs addressed all done so with the ideal player? Again, no.

Is that really the expectation? If so, it’s unrealistic.

Sure some could argue (and did) we needed to draft a RB higher. Or a big DT. Many have specific players they are upset Cowboys passed on. Complaints are all over the board as to what the Cowboys messed up, and all that complain think their take on what was bungled is the right one.

Obviously the myriad of takes on what was messed up can’t all be right, no matter how sure each person is of themselves.

Ultimately we have to be realistic about the draft. It can’t cure all things, it can’t make ever fan happy, and it is not an exact science where the players chosen carry any guarantees, good or bad.

If it is a typical draft, we'll get two starters out of it, maybe three; get two or three other contributors and have a few who do nothing and end up cut at some point.

My bets would be starters (Booker, Ezeiruaku, Revel-eventually), contributors (Blue, Toia, Mafah) and nothings (James, Cornelius, Akingbesote). And that might be generous.

Not counting last year because the jury's still out:

2023: 2 starters (Mazi, Overshown), 2 contributors (Schoonmaker, Richards), possibly 4 nothings (Fehoko, Scott, Vaughn, Brooks)

2022: 3 starters (Tyler Smith, Jake Ferguson, DaRon Bland), 3 contributors (Sam Williams, Tolbert, Clark) and 3 nothings (Waletzko, Ridgeway, Harper)

2021: 2 starters (Parsons, Odighizuwa), 2 1/2 contributors (Golston, Mukuamu, Bohanna-but not much), 6 nothings (Joseph, Wright, Cox, Ball, Fehoko, Farniok)

I could keep going, but hopefully the point is made.

 

[Techsass]

It was a weird draft. We picked the wrong time to be picking at #12.

Overall I think we did good with our picks, but I'm still disappointed that we waited until the very end to pick a DT. There were a lot to choose from. We also missed out on the RB'S by not having a 4th round pick.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Anybody who is 'realistic" is well aware the team is in a rebuild and one draft wont do it. Need at least two more solid drafts to begin with.

NFL isn’t a need two solid drafts type of league though. Commanders just showed you that.

 

[tunahelper]

Well if being realistic is the theme, then lets be truthful about it.

Does it matter who got drafted when Jerry is there to mess it all up?

If Jerry went MIA for a season/playoffs/SB, that would be the greatest draft pick of all.

Maybe that's too much realistic.

A Dallas draft will not overcome Jerry's daft.

 

[Carter]

We had a good draft in terms of rebuilding the trenches and i think Revel might be a Starter by year 2 but we dont have playmakers on this team besides CeeDee who will be doubled and tripled every game.

Running Game is suspect at best and the WR Room is one of the worst in the league. Add to that Dak coming from season ending injury i doubt this Offense is gonna do much next season let alone compete with Philly and WASH

 

[DuncanIso]

We had a good draft.

We took some nuts and bolts.

Problem is we have no fire power to really compete.

The RB we got, even if he is Jahmyr Gibbs exactly, is still a complimentary piece.

I think they had Blue on their list early.

Which is why there was no rush to draft RB in the early rounds.

The kid has speed.

I wanted RB1 early. But after reading the draft BIo on Blue, it makes sense.

 

[CowboyChris]

I have warmed up to the pick of Booker, although I still think we should’ve took Tyler Warren, if it were me I think I would’ve rather had Kaleb Johnson over Revel in that 3rd round, the trade up for James was a head scratcher.

I was also surprised we didn’t make a trade to recoup that 4th.

overall I still give this draft a B

 

[noshame]

The Cowboys are on a 2 year plan. Next year they'll address running back and quarterback, and then we'll be off to the races. Be patient, we're building the lines, and that's where you start.
We'll find out if Milton has promise at quarterback, or not and we finally draft a top QB.
We'll find out if schenheimer is actually an NFL quality coach, or there's a reason he's been an assistant for over 20 years.
There's been 100s of wanna be coaches that talk a good game.
I'm hoping he learned a lot about managing/motivating players watching Quinn while he was here.
As I said before, this story will begin to unravel either way as early as training camp.

 

[Stsinaz12]

So many here saying Cowboys had a bad draft while every media source says it was B+ or better. Obviously media can be wrong too, but all giving the draft a strong grade can’t just be brushed aside as meaningless.

Did Cowboys address every need? No. Were the needs addressed all done so with the ideal player? Again, no.

Is that really the expectation? If so, it’s unrealistic.

Sure some could argue (and did) we needed to draft a RB higher. Or a big DT. Many have specific players they are upset Cowboys passed on. Complaints are all over the board as to what the Cowboys messed up, and all that complain think their take on what was bungled is the right one.

Obviously the myriad of takes on what was messed up can’t all be right, no matter how sure each person is of themselves.

Ultimately we have to be realistic about the draft. It can’t cure all things, it can’t make ever fan happy, and it is not an exact science where the players chosen carry any guarantees, good or bad.

It was a great draft and Eberflus has about 20 new guys total inc fa’s udfa’s and drafted to turn our D around. He will do it. Pur rungame is about to take off all we need is gilly n coop now.

 

[Rayman70]

Meat and potatoes draft. I loved it. It has to be done. Many thought we were going to come in here and draft skill positions as top priority, this fixing all things we lacked in one draft. It was never the case. This was just one big step towards rebuilding the team, and the mindset, more than anything. We are shifting away from sexiness to physicality. It takes time.

 

[Rayman70]

The Cowboys are on a 2 year plan. Next year they'll address running back and quarterback, and then we'll be off to the races. Be patient, we're building the lines, and that's where you start.
We'll find out if Milton has promise at quarterback, or not and we finally draft a top QB.
We'll find out if schenheimer is actually an NFL quality coach, or there's a reason he's been an assistant for over 20 years.
There's been 100s of wanna be coaches that talk a good game.
I'm hoping he learned a lot about managing/motivating players watching Quinn while he was here.
As I said before, this story will begin to unravel either way as early as training camp.

We addressed RB. We should be fine there.

 

[superonyx]

I don't grade draft classes for 3 years.
However, The last 29 draft classes didn't result in a Super Bowl.
I doubt this one does either.

It must suck following something and being so negative about it.
What's that like?

 

[Rayman70]

It must suck following something and being so negative about it.
What's that like?

I truly think most of us DC fans, the long time ones, won't allow ourselves any joy for the team. It's just because of the last 30 years, especially after the all in lie we were fed last year. Many are still pissed, and distrust. For me, I can separate last year from this new regime. It's like night and day. I'm gonna stay optimistic until proven otherwise.

 

[Flamma]

So many here saying Cowboys had a bad draft while every media source says it was B+ or better. Obviously media can be wrong too, but all giving the draft a strong grade can’t just be brushed aside as meaningless.

Did Cowboys address every need? No. Were the needs addressed all done so with the ideal player? Again, no.

Is that really the expectation? If so, it’s unrealistic.

Sure some could argue (and did) we needed to draft a RB higher. Or a big DT. Many have specific players they are upset Cowboys passed on. Complaints are all over the board as to what the Cowboys messed up, and all that complain think their take on what was bungled is the right one.

Obviously the myriad of takes on what was messed up can’t all be right, no matter how sure each person is of themselves.

Ultimately we have to be realistic about the draft. It can’t cure all things, it can’t make ever fan happy, and it is not an exact science where the players chosen carry any guarantees, good or bad.

People want RBs, WRs, and TEs drafted every year on day 1 and day 2. It doesn't happen except for extraordinary circumstances, but they still think it will happen every year.