Do people really believe there is a better option than Dak this year?

[Vtwin]

because the parsimonious Stephen, not the philanthropic jerry is now writing the checks.

I have no doubt Stephen has a bigger say than he ever has before but I have serious doubt that Jerry isn't heavily involved up to the point of saying, "make it so".

Really doesn't change the point though. I said Jerry out of habit when I should have said management.

The fact that management hasn't gotten the deal done should tell us something about their views on Dak being the long term answer.

 

[garyo1954]

Maybe I'm reading that wrong but are you saying Dalton didn't have any losses his 5th year? You got him at 10-0.......

Yeah, my head wasn't right. Glad someone bothered to check that. I was digesting something I shouldn't have read while drinking. He went 10-6 in 2015 which brings his total to 53-29-1.

Andy Dalton
2011 9-7
2012 10-6
2013 11-5
2014 10-5-1
2015 10-6

Thanks! I'm always happy when my numbers are rechecked, and glad to clarify any mistakes!

 

[cern]

I have no doubt Stephen has a bigger say than he ever has before but I have serious doubt that Jerry isn't heavily involved up to the point of saying, "make it so".

Really doesn't change the point though. I said Jerry out of habit when I should have said management.

The fact that management hasn't gotten the deal done should tell us something about their views on Dak being the long term answer.

it's simple. he's asking for more money than they're willing to spend.

 

[cern]

and still no names as to who would be better than dak. good news is there will be more free agent qb's available than teams that need them.

 

[mattjames2010]

Oh no! Teddy Bridgewater might get us to only 7-9 and not 8-8/9-7! Give Dak $40 million!

 

[cowboy_ron]

it's simple. he's asking for more money than they're willing to spend.

He's probably asking for more than fair market value...........I can't fault the team for not overpaying another bad contract.

 

[mattjames2010]

and still no names as to who would be better than dak. good news is there will be more free agent qb's available than teams that need them.

Both Teddy Bridgewater and Marcus Mariota have both proven they can get to where Dak got in the past. Yet one was just benched and the other is a second stringer.

 

[Hadenough]

He did have some of those weakness coming out of college. Key word "did". Like I said, I'll believe Troy over some internet hack.

Still has some of those weaknesses!

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Dak is in a very complicated spot to me.

He is not a franchise QB. So every longterm contract over 5 mils/year (thats what i would pay a great backup QB) doesnt do this franchise any good.

FT him. Hope someone will sign him. Get those 2 first rounders and draft your QB of the future.

In the meantime get brady for 3 years and enjoy 1 or 2 SB wins.

We get two first rounders if someone signs Dak away?

 

[Hadenough]

Here was the scout’s summary of Brady’s football ability: “Tough, will take hit to deliver the ball. Durable, but not real strong. Not overly quick setting up. Comes on balance to throw. Doesn’t throw a tight ball; it waffles a lot. Puts lots of air under his deep balls. Lacks deep-ball accuracy; will underthrow. Limited pocket movement. Has weight down to improve his quickness and mobility. Can throw on the move. Questionable read ability. At times, I think he predetermines his throws. Lacks accuracy; sprays the ball.”

Here was his summary of Brady’s NFL potential: “Lacks nimbleness and foot quickness in the pocket. Not a runner or a scrambler. Labors. Has winning ways. Can bring them back. Not real gifted or natural as a passer. Does not throw a tight ball. Does not have a big-time arm. Backup at best; don’t see him as a starter. Worth bringing to camp. May make some teams.”

I mean, I can't expect much out of this Brady fellow cause I read a bad scouting report on him.

And in Bradys first 4 years he proved them wrong! Daks weaknesses keep rearing their ugly head when the Cowboys play any half decent team.

 

[cern]

Both Teddy Bridgewater and Marcus Mariota have both proven they can get to where Dak got in the past. Yet one was just benched and the other is a second stringer.

bridgewater did look impressive in the games he filled for drew brees. Mariota just sucked.

 

[Hadenough]

I love when people post Dak’s scouting report from 4 years ago, but then fail to discuss any of the improvements he has made since that scouting report.

it’s cute.

it’s even better because they never post the strengths from his scouting report and they never compare his scouting report to other good QB’s who are entering the draft to see what scouts have to say about their weaknesses.

just the best.

The point is that it doesnt take a scout to see what Dak weaknesses are. The people that say he doesnt pass the eyeball test must be seeing something and that's why I posted the report on weaknesses. Because I've never looked that up until now. It's not really that surprising I'm seeing the same things today that scouts saw then.

 

[Hadenough]

bridgewater did look impressive in the games he filled for drew brees. Mariota just sucked.

I tend to agree but Mariotta sure did shred the Cowboys a couple years ago. He has his ups and downs.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

Bridgewater can get us to 8-8 too., and out of the playoffs.

 

[Philmonroe]

Aww, it really, really, really hurts.

Not really but I want to see the Cowboys win and I know with Dak that's not going to happen.you have an inferior way of life so you live through off the field symbolism. I don't.

 

[Vtwin]

it's simple. he's asking for more money than they're willing to spend.

Although this can be true it doesn't refute my point.

Remember, my point was made to the "Dak will be here for a long time" crowd.

If management was convinced Dak was a true franchise QB capable of contributing to achieving the goal of winning championships, or at least being serious contenders year to year, why would they not "pay the man"?

Current market value vs immediate future market value considering the effects of upcoming contracts, new CBA and the increase in cap has been brought up ad nauseum.

It management was convinced they had the guy capable of achieving their goals and considering the market is about to be reset given the reasons already stated why not go ahead and give Dak 38-40 a year considering (as we have seen stated many times here) it will be a bargain by the end of the contract?

It makes no sense to not go ahead and give the guy what will be the market rate in two years IF you are convinced he is the guy.

It makes better, but not good, sense to negotiate for current (last years actually) market rate if you think the guy is more just passable than top of the heap.

I don't believe for a second that this is about pinching pennies just because management is tight. If management truly believed Dak was a difference maker at QB he would already be the highest paid QB in the league.

The other alternative is that management is shifting their philosphy to more of a 'build a team that you can plug an adequate QB into' thing and doesn't want to overspend at the position no matter who is taking the snaps.

Either way the "Dak is going to be here for a long time" guys must be getting a little nervous.

 

[Vtwin]

Still has some of those weaknesses!

He has even regressed in some strengths.

His "clutch gene" went missing.

Where was the leadership on this horribly disfunctional team? Talented teams with high expectations and strong internal leadership don't just quit, especially on an established coach whose one agreed upon strength was the players always played hard for him. Huge red flag.

 

[jnday]

It's the hardcore Romoholics who keep acting up...daily. They have been doing it for the past 4 years.

You are delusional. A lot of fans think that Romo was a better QB than Dak, but the dislike for Dak has nothing to do with Romo. Romo was at the end of his career when Dak came along, so it is a matter of fans not liking the direction Dallas has gone after Romo. Why don’t you blame the dislike for Dak exactly where it belongs instead of inventing reasons why people don’t agree with your Dak lust?

 

[jnday]

Tom Brady is going to fix the worst special teams in the league? Tom Brady is going to intercept passes on defense?


Man he really is the GOAT

At least Brady won’t wait until the third quarter before he starts playing in every game.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

FREE AGENT QBs: (anual salary)

1. Drew Brees 25M
2. Tom Brady 23M
3. Philip River 20M

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4. Teddy Bridgewater 7M
5. Jameis Winston 6M
6. Marcus Marriota 6M
7. Chase Daniel 5M