When building a roster: WWBBD

[McKDaddy]

Byron Jones- this one is a little trickier. I think BB would probably let him walk

PFF made the case that BB values coverage more than sacks thus why he signed Gilmore & why he lets seemingly very good linemen walk. So, he might sign Byron if he was in this situation.

 

[McKDaddy]

I think it was a mistake signing Zeke period.

I would not have caved & signed him last year for sure. As much as I like Zeke, I do have like would i would have to pick from in this years draft if you weren't already committed to Zeke.

 

[buybuydandavis]

wrong backloaded means hes makes less the first half and all the big money is in the back half he may not earn.. so all the talk about the overpaying a RB is MOOT , his dal is team friendly, so a QB with a backloaded deal most likely sees ALL HIS money plus 2 more contracts. you need a lesson in math?

The argument with Dak isn't backloading, it's length of contract. Jerry wants a long one. Dak doesn't.

Zeke, on the other hand, has little reason to protest a long contract, as there is no way Dallas will continue to pay him at current rates through the end of this contract anyway. The last two years of his contract are totally cosmetic and will never happen. He was probably the one asking for a long contract to boost total value to bump up his brand.

 

[buybuydandavis]

PFF made the case that BB values coverage more than sacks thus why he signed Gilmore & why he lets seemingly very good linemen walk. So, he might sign Byron if he was in this situation.

Smart, uncomplaining professional player, with experience at multiple roles. BB would love Byron the player. He'd probably use Byron to cover the league's best TEs. That's the role he most excels at. Instead of "we do what we do", Byron is great when you're looking for exploitable matchups and flexibility.

 

[blueblood70]

The argument with Dak isn't backloading, it's length of contract. Jerry wants a long one. Dak doesn't.

Zeke, on the other hand, has little reason to protest a long contract, as there is no way Dallas will continue to pay him at current rates through the end of this contract anyway. The last two years of his contract are totally cosmetic and will never happen. He was probably the one asking for a long contract to boost total value to bump up his brand.

it makes the contract Zeke signed TEAM FRIENDLY , Daks not allowing that and that why the tool isnt signed...

Zeke helped the team , dak is unwilling.. thats the point.. hes quickly becoming less liked by fans..Zeke had one bite at the apple and compromised , he came to the middle..Dak wants it sll no matter what..he may end up on the tag or traded and I wont cry over it..

all this bame jerry and the fo for not signing dak earlier is fast becoming clear its on Dak..

 

[Johnny23]

When our front office is making decisions about who to keep and who to let go of on our roster; which FA to sign, which to avoid...I wish that our decision makers would consider this: “What Would Bill Belechick Do?”

I’m still amazed how many of our fans on this forum think Bill Belechick is lucky just because he’s had Tom Brady. Or that his coaching genius alone is his key to success. Let’s examine this:

• Sure having Tom Brady as their QB has been an advantage but in this cap era, you can’t win 6 SBs over 19 seasons just because you have a great QB. Each of his SB teams have had a ton of different players.
• Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees each only have one SB win, proving that building a successful roster takes more than just a star QB.
• Playing in over half of your conference’s championship games the last two decades isn’t just about Tom Brady or being lucky. It’s about BB and his ability to put together a new roster every year because he constantly churns his roster without any sentimentality.

Belechick’s roster genius is his ability to evaluate each player on his roster with cold-blood in his veins. He doesn’t give a rat’s arse what you did last year if you’re going to cost too much or may lose a step. BB keeps his eyes on the present and future, not the past. Our lifetime contract FO treats their roster more like a family reunion than a football team.

So when considering some of the Cowboys roster ideas I see being considered on this forum, WWBBD?

• Dez Bryant: WWBBD? Not sign him. Period. Take out the sentimental reasons to bring back one of our favorites to somehow be a “4th receiver” is just stupid. Good FOs don’t make moves like this. In a talent starved league like the NFL, if Dez still was still legit, someone would have already signed him.

• Jason Witten- Would Belechick have signed him in 2019? No. Did his inclusion on our roster really help this team? Not really. We resigned Witten because our owner had a soft spot for him.

• Tyrone Crawford- I think BB would have cut him last year.
  
  
• Dak Prescott- I think BB would have already resigned him. The Jones boys act like they are “not going to set the market” and yet make a questionable high dollar deal with their star RB that sets the market...a year earlier than they had to.

• Byron Jones- this one is a little trickier. I think BB would probably let him walk as he has with many of his former star defenders because of cost. But I’m not sure.

This list could go on and on...And I’m of course just guessing what BB would do and I could certainly be wrong on all of these- except Dez and Witten, lol.

Your thoughts?

We're just going to ignore the fact Billy boy brought back Tedy after open heart surgery and picked junior up off the trash heap. And gave Chad Johnson a chance and Josh Gordon.

They just didn't happen yet we're going to throw Dez under the bus. C'mon man. I think Dez can contribute something to a team.

 

[Johnny23]

Yeah, but people on this forum are often wrong en masse.

On the old official forums @kskboys Gilmore was one of the guys who I wanted from his draft class. I do remember some hot debates about those plays from that era coming out of South Carolina.

 

[stilltheguru]

We're just going to ignore the fact Billy boy brought back Tedy after open heart surgery and picked junior up off the trash heap. And gave Chad Johnson a chance and Josh Gordon.

They just didn't happen yet we're going to throw Dez under the bus. C'mon man. I think Dez can contribute something to a team.

The Dez hate is hilarious. Bunch of cowards on here. Im not saying you have to love how he acted his last year, especially the seattle game but to deny that man a workout? Wow

 

[Johnny23]

Chandler Jones must have been leading sacks when he left and I imagine Jamie Collins was leading tackles. Malcom Butler must have been leading something (maybe pass break ups). There must be a fair few leading rushers he’s let go too.

There hasn't been. He squeezed every last bit of juice out of Corey Dillion and he retired. He then drafted Marion Barbers Minnesota running buddy Laurence Marouny and BenJarvis Green Ellis.

 

[DanA]

There hasn't been. He squeezed every last bit of juice out of Corey Dillion and he retired. He then drafted Marion Barbers Minnesota running buddy Laurence Marouny and BenJarvis Green Ellis.

LeGarette Blount was a 1000 yard rusher with 18 TD's and allowed to walk.

 

[kskboys]

The Dez hate is hilarious. Bunch of cowards on here. Im not saying you have to love how he acted his last year, especially the seattle game but to deny that man a workout? Wow

Cowards? Saying that is the cowardly thing. Just because someone doesn't agree w/ you, that doesn't mean you should insult them and childishly call them names.

 

[kskboys]

On the old official forums @kskboys Gilmore was one of the guys who I wanted from his draft class. I do remember some hot debates about those plays from that era coming out of South Carolina.

Nice!!!

Ain't it hilarious? That was the Morris Claiborne draft!!!! BUFF took him at the 10 spot in the first round, good pick.

 

[stilltheguru]

Cowards? Saying that is the cowardly thing. Just because someone doesn't agree w/ you, that doesn't mean you should insult them and childishly call them names.

My words were accurate. Same losers who loved him while he was here dont even want him to get a workout. Trash people. All emotional because he called out Lee and Garrett. Get out of here

 

[kskboys]

My words were accurate. Same losers who loved him while he was here dont even want him to get a workout. Trash people. All emotional because he called out Lee and Garrett. Get out of here

Accurate for a little cowardly nancy boy, sure.

 

[Johnny23]

LeGarette Blount was a 1000 yard rusher with 18 TD's and allowed to walk.

Right and then came back. Nice catch.

 

[Johnny23]

Nice!!!

Ain't it hilarious? That was the Morris Claiborne draft!!!! BUFF took him at the 10 spot in the first round, good pick.

Yep. I remember being pro Gilmore and Fletcher Cox. Funny how things work out.

 

[DanA]

Right and then came back. Nice catch.

Are you talking about Jamie Collins? LeGarette Blount left to the Eagle and is now at Detroit

 

[buybuydandavis]

it makes the contract Zeke signed TEAM FRIENDLY , Daks not allowing that and that why the tool isnt signed...

Zeke helped the team , dak is unwilling.. thats the point.. hes quickly becoming less liked by fans..Zeke had one bite at the apple and compromised , he came to the middle..Dak wants it sll no matter what..he may end up on the tag or traded and I wont cry over it..

all this bame jerry and the fo for not signing dak earlier is fast becoming clear its on Dak..

Zeke "helped the team" by holding out while under contract, something Dak did not do. I was surprised that Dak didn't similarly hold out last year.

Neither of them are doing the team any favors, nor should be expect them to. They have a business relationship with the Cowboys, as do their agents.

 

[stilltheguru]

Accurate for a little cowardly nancy boy, sure.

Say whatever you want. You know what you are. Its disgusting really.

 

[Blackrain]

When our front office is making decisions about who to keep and who to let go of on our roster; which FA to sign, which to avoid...I wish that our decision makers would consider this: “What Would Bill Belechick Do?”

I’m still amazed how many of our fans on this forum think Bill Belechick is lucky just because he’s had Tom Brady. Or that his coaching genius alone is his key to success. Let’s examine this:

• Sure having Tom Brady as their QB has been an advantage but in this cap era, you can’t win 6 SBs over 19 seasons just because you have a great QB. Each of his SB teams have had a ton of different players.
• Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees each only have one SB win, proving that building a successful roster takes more than just a star QB.
• Playing in over half of your conference’s championship games the last two decades isn’t just about Tom Brady or being lucky. It’s about BB and his ability to put together a new roster every year because he constantly churns his roster without any sentimentality.

Belechick’s roster genius is his ability to evaluate each player on his roster with cold-blood in his veins. He doesn’t give a rat’s arse what you did last year if you’re going to cost too much or may lose a step. BB keeps his eyes on the present and future, not the past. Our lifetime contract FO treats their roster more like a family reunion than a football team.

So when considering some of the Cowboys roster ideas I see being considered on this forum, WWBBD?

• Dez Bryant: WWBBD? Not sign him. Period. Take out the sentimental reasons to bring back one of our favorites to somehow be a “4th receiver” is just stupid. Good FOs don’t make moves like this. In a talent starved league like the NFL, if Dez still was still legit, someone would have already signed him.

• Jason Witten- Would Belechick have signed him in 2019? No. Did his inclusion on our roster really help this team? Not really. We resigned Witten because our owner had a soft spot for him.

• Tyrone Crawford- I think BB would have cut him last year.
  
  
• Dak Prescott- I think BB would have already resigned him. The Jones boys act like they are “not going to set the market” and yet make a questionable high dollar deal with their star RB that sets the market...a year earlier than they had to.

• Byron Jones- this one is a little trickier. I think BB would probably let him walk as he has with many of his former star defenders because of cost. But I’m not sure.

This list could go on and on...And I’m of course just guessing what BB would do and I could certainly be wrong on all of these- except Dez and Witten, lol.

Your thoughts?

I think it starts with Kraft he hires a coach with a philosophy that is keenly attuned to todays NFL We bumbled through with Garrett for 10 yrs and watched careers be wasted , teams go into big games totally unprepared and players get drafted that just made no sense at all .

The most prime example of this is our lack of preparation for the end of Romos career . When Belichick saw Romos back was bad enough he couldnt practice a top pick would have been used on a QB . We survive in spite of ourselves !!!

The only reason we have a franchise QB to worry about giving a new contract to is because fortunately we didnt draft the guys we really wanted .

Belichick has the ability to find FOOTBALL PLAYERS instead of business decision makers .Guys that value being a champion over the maximum pay day

He realizes they age in dog yrs and would rather get rid of them a yr early then keep them a yr too long .

One of the most important things he recognizes is that INTELLIGENCE is the most important talent and without it all the physical attributes are useless at the NFL level . This is why guys like Danny Amendola and Julian Edelman can win SBs and guys like Dez are sitting past 30 wondering how there career got away .

I think we now have a coach with an attitude more like Belichicks and hopefully we can get out of the Jason Garrett purgatory of 8-8 and progress more like a normal NFL franchise rather than one of Jerrys family reunions