News: Yet another Dak thread. So sue me I am bored

[Chocolate Lab]

I watch a lot of sports and I live chat on reddit while watching games & every teams own fans are their worst ‘enemies’/critics - it’s not just a Cowboys fan base thing.

Thank you. Cowboys fans are really no different from any other team's fans. There are just more of them.

 

[Fletch]

Eyeball test yo. Eyeball test.

Orale, guay!

 

[kskboys]

Great article. I think they got the information here from us enlightened ones.

This might be the funniest post ever on this site.

 

[fivetwos]

Tag and trade!!

 

[fivetwos]

This might be the funniest post ever on this site.

Not sure about that, but if anyone is stuck home and wants to create a thread for funniest post ever, that would be entertaining!!

Ya'll do come up w some good ones lol.

 

[kskboys]

The following quote:

It’s safe to say Dak Prescott could lead the Dallas Cowboys to a Super Bowl victory and it still wouldn’t change his critics’ minds. They’d come up with excuses why he was actually bad. Why he was a product of the system. Why he’s not worth paying like a franchise QB.

First they said his win percentage didn’t matter because he wasn’t piling up big yardage and TD totals. Then when he started putting up elite yardage and TDs, they said these were empty stats in garbage time. Then when his elite numbers were qualified through QBR and EPA, they said stats that only mathematicians understood weren’t real stats.Then when these advanced stats were explained, they said they were only possible because Dak had an All-Star supporting cast.

Then when presented the running game’s poor EPA per play (compared to passing), the receiving corps high drop rate, and the coaching staff’s poor early down play-calling, “they” said the running issues were because opponents loaded the box, drops were from inaccurate balls, and play-calling was because the Cowboys abandoned the run too early.

Then when shown teams were NOT stacking the box, that Dak was one of the most accurate passers, and that Dallas stuck with the run far longer than the average NFL team, they said winning was all that matters. The same thing they discredited at the start. Rinse. Repeat.
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Is so true.

JMHO

Perfect compilation of every Dak thread!!!!!!

Every time I make the stupid mistake of jumping in to peruse one o' these stupid fests, it's the same posters saying the exact same things ad nauseum. Like clockwork. If you jump in w/ an opinion, you are immediately classified as one or the other and catch major hate from the others.

Quite amusing, somewhat.

 

[fivetwos]

The whole Prescott debate is simple....

He isnt elite but the situation dictates that he will be paid that way.

There isnt a better option, nor should the team attempt to start over at this point.

Personally, since the guy has proven nothing, I would be looking to do a shorter term deal, which is apparently what HE wants, and is the hangup.

I do not at ALL see how the team thinks they are gonna lock him up on the cheap and he isnt gonna complain.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The same guy providing the statistics used to provide statistics trying to convince everyone that Tony Romo was the second coming, worked out really well.

Tony Romo was good. bad coaching. and he also played on some bad teams, where he did carry the offense. unfortunately he also played behind some bad lines, got hit too often and was injured a lot.

 

[kskboys]

The whole Prescott debate is simple....

He isnt elite but the situation dictates that he will be paid that way.

There isnt a better option, nor should the team attempt to start over at this point.

Personally, since the guy has proven nothing, I would be looking to do a shorter term deal, which is apparently what HE wants, and is the hangup.

I do not at ALL see how the team thinks they are gonna lock him up on the cheap and he isnt gonna complain.

The team is not trying to lock him in on the cheap. What they're offering is more than fair.

I agree w/ everthing else.

Funny thing is that you contradict yourself!!!! You're saying he isn't elite, but then at the bottom you're saying the team is trying to go cheap!!!!! Just amusing.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The following quote:

It’s safe to say Dak Prescott could lead the Dallas Cowboys to a Super Bowl victory and it still wouldn’t change his critics’ minds. They’d come up with excuses why he was actually bad. Why he was a product of the system. Why he’s not worth paying like a franchise QB.

First they said his win percentage didn’t matter because he wasn’t piling up big yardage and TD totals. Then when he started putting up elite yardage and TDs, they said these were empty stats in garbage time. Then when his elite numbers were qualified through QBR and EPA, they said stats that only mathematicians understood weren’t real stats.Then when these advanced stats were explained, they said they were only possible because Dak had an All-Star supporting cast.

Then when presented the running game’s poor EPA per play (compared to passing), the receiving corps high drop rate, and the coaching staff’s poor early down play-calling, “they” said the running issues were because opponents loaded the box, drops were from inaccurate balls, and play-calling was because the Cowboys abandoned the run too early.

Then when shown teams were NOT stacking the box, that Dak was one of the most accurate passers, and that Dallas stuck with the run far longer than the average NFL team, they said winning was all that matters. The same thing they discredited at the start. Rinse. Repeat.
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Is so true.

JMHO

We know 100% what they will say: "Dak needed a perfect team around him to win. Everything went our way this year and we will never be able to keep this perfect team together and we will never be this lucky again. Perfect time to trade Dak to get the most value"

 

[kskboys]

Tony Romo was good. bad coaching. and he also played on some bad teams, where he did carry the offense. unfortunately he also played behind some bad lines, got hit too often and was injured a lot.

Not to mention the team doing a Ppoor job of providing him w/ the team that best suited his skillset. Romo's best pass was the deep stuff, and they never had a deep WR after TO until Dez. And they let the OL fall apart, and a good OL is needed for deep routes.

Very strange stuff.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Sports should be like commission based sales, you get paid based on your production

LOL...……..I 100% agree on this. However, it would never fly, unfortunately.

Guys would complain about opportunities to play, usage, and injuries robbing them of their ability to make money like they should.

 

[jazzcat22]

The whole Prescott debate is simple....

He isnt elite but the situation dictates that he will be paid that way.

There isnt a better option, nor should the team attempt to start over at this point.

Personally, since the guy has proven nothing, I would be looking to do a shorter term deal, which is apparently what HE wants, and is the hangup.

I do not at ALL see how the team thinks they are gonna lock him up on the cheap and he isnt gonna complain.

since the guy has proven nothing

Really, what in the heck have you been watching the past 4 years, to have not been watching also?

 

[CowboyRoy]

The team is not trying to lock him in on the cheap. What they're offering is more than fair.

I agree w/ everthing else.

Funny thing is that you contradict yourself!!!! You're saying he isn't elite, but then at the bottom you're saying the team is trying to go cheap!!!!! Just amusing.

Its pretty clear that most of these guys simply don't understand how new contracts work. And what are they really arguing about here? A few million dollars? Rogers and Wilson are getting 35 million. So a NON elite QB gets what?...………..33 million? About what Wentz and Goff are getting. So they are complain about 2 million dollars. LOL

And it hasn't even been determined yet that Dak is even getting 35 million. So its a waste of a discussion.

And lets not forget that in two years time, even if Dak gets 35 million, he will not even be in the top 5 QB salaries by then anyway. So this ELITE argument is just dumb.

 

[Arkyvarminter]

One thing I do know about Dak is since he's been in Dallas he's played under some pretty bad coaches so that's something to consider. Coaching makes a huge difference, especially at QB..........

 

[Miller]

I never thought the Dak hate was a product of Romo. I thought it sprung from his first two years where he had the “rep” of throwing into the ground and being inaccurate. It seems when I’d be in Game Day threads that was an issue that has people gnashing teeth and then it became “fact” to many. But I agree with many that it comes with the job

 

[Whyjerry]

interesting article.

https://sportdfw.com/2020/02/10/dallas-cowboys-curious-case-of-dak-prescott-hate/

Careful out there. The Forum police like to dictate what can and cannot be covered. I always like Dak talk and artciles. Thanks

 

[Doomsday101]

Had this contract been completed and done all these articles would not be happening. As for doubters all Cowboys QB have had their doubters until they win a championship. Danny White had his critics and doubters, same with Romo and now with Dak. Only way I know to silence the critics is winning a championship.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

I Don' think that's the point. I Think the point is Romo wasn't nearly as bad as some said he was. Same goes for Dak. You have to put everything into context.

I think Romo’s legacy hurts Dak in a few places. Particularly people just see the ‘no NFCCG’ continuation despite another highly productive QB and are getting antsy. Had you gone from Drew Henson to Dak he’d be much more appreciated.

The following quote:

It’s safe to say Dak Prescott could lead the Dallas Cowboys to a Super Bowl victory and it still wouldn’t change his critics’ minds. They’d come up with excuses why he was actually bad. Why he was a product of the system. Why he’s not worth paying like a franchise QB.

First they said his win percentage didn’t matter because he wasn’t piling up big yardage and TD totals. Then when he started putting up elite yardage and TDs, they said these were empty stats in garbage time. Then when his elite numbers were qualified through QBR and EPA, they said stats that only mathematicians understood weren’t real stats.Then when these advanced stats were explained, they said they were only possible because Dak had an All-Star supporting cast.

Then when presented the running game’s poor EPA per play (compared to passing), the receiving corps high drop rate, and the coaching staff’s poor early down play-calling, “they” said the running issues were because opponents loaded the box, drops were from inaccurate balls, and play-calling was because the Cowboys abandoned the run too early.

Then when shown teams were NOT stacking the box, that Dak was one of the most accurate passers, and that Dallas stuck with the run far longer than the average NFL team, they said winning was all that matters. The same thing they discredited at the start. Rinse. Repeat.
​

Is so true.

JMHO

I disagree with this strongly. People don’t hate Dak just because they don’t like him personally, they view him as a negative impact to the Cowboys’ aura. He starts compiling playoff wins and that goes out the window, doesn’t even have to win the SB. Same exact thing happened to Matt Ryan. Atlanta fans used to go nuts on him for all the 1-and-done’s, then he made and An NFCCG and then later a SB and suddenly he’s god’s gift to football.

Winning cures all ailments

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Eyeball test yo. Eyeball test.

The eyeball test, that some use to complain about Dak, is how his passes look on the way to the receiver. He tends to throw a low arch fastball that's hard for receivers to adjust to because it gets to them so fast. And easy to drop since they don't have much time to adjust. Dak's fastballs could be a result of him taking too long to go through his progressions and seeing things a little late.

So when posters bring up the old eye test excuse I know exactly what they mean. His throws often take away a receivers run after the catch ability, especially on crossing routes. But not every QB in the league can be a Brees, or a Rodgers. Where every throw they make looks great.