News: Details Emerge From The Cowboys Current Offer To Prescott

[Cowboys22]

I think at this point, I would do the 4 years. I would try and reduce the numbers a little for going to 4 years but I would get Dak signed. Then I would bring MM and McClay into my office and tell them that they must have a QB ready to take over when that deal is up. The plan would be to franchise Dak and allow him to seek a deal elsewhere so as to get something better than a comp pick for him. The only way Dak would be resigned would be if the team has won a super bowl with him at QB and keeping it together seemed the best way to continue to compete for championships. If he hasn't won a super bowl, there must be a QB ready to take over on the roster. If Dak is resigned, then that QB can be traded for picks. That would be my approach. I would get Dak done now and see what he can do under MM but anything short of a super bowl win and he wouldn't hold me hostage again. With all the extra picks next year, I'd get a QB by round 3 and get to developing him and Dinucci.

 

[Adreme]

He will never have a better supporting cast around him then he has had in the last 4 years, The Cowboys will be lucky to maintain the talent level they have on the team now if Dak gets that kind of deal

It might be talented, but the roster is certainly not in the top 3 in the NFL in talent, and only arguably in the top 5. The 3 deepest 53 man rosters are almost assuredly the Chiefs, Ravens, and 49ers in a debatable order. Then in my eyes you have the Saints, Cowboys, even the Bucs depending on what you get from them. Why would you bet on the Super Bowl with that situation when if you just bet on yourself, you will probably win considering if he just does what he did last year he wins.

 

[Diehardblues]

I don't consider Jerry or Stephen football idiots. They both were and or are on the NFL football competition committee and the NFL reached out to Jerry in the past in helping out with the CBA. Jerry is in Pro Football Hall of Fame inducted in 2017. Jerry played collegiate football and co-captained on a national championship team. Stephen grew up around football all his life and been with the team for 28 years as chief operating officer, executive vice president of player personnel.

I believe overall family business interests, team capability overconfidence and a lack of objectivity have led to inconsistency and setbacks over the past 2 decades. I don't think they are football idiots hiring Mike McCarthy and enabling him to hire or retain any individual on the coaching staff. Over the past half dozen years this ownership and management has improved in drafting culminating this year with an outstanding draft.

That stated I would like to see a couple of NFL experienced personnel that are more talented, non-family, in both general manager and executive management positions.

They have their positions only because they own the team. No other franchise would hire them,

I understand they aren’t blithering idiots. And for owners have probably done as well or better if the rest of NFL owners and their sons were mandated to hold the same positions.

You shouldn’t take my name I created so literally. I think most get it. Lol

 

[OmerV]

I keep seeing fans use the Mahomes bar as some kind of relief Daks contract won’t be the highest once that happens as some kind of relief or consolation.

Mahomes would blow it out the water now, next year and beyond. And justifiable so. That gives me no resolve.

Of course Mahomes would blow them both out of the water now. But that's one of the points worth noting because Dak's pay (or any player's pay) doesn't just come down to a position ranking the way some like to treat it. It is simply a matter of the market conditions at the time a player is negotiating. If Dak does become the highest of close to the highest paid player, it isn't a statement that he is better than all other players, or all other QB's, it's just a statement that given the position he players and the time in which he was negotiating, the market conditions were favorable for that kind of contract.

 

[Cowboys22]

It might be talented, but the roster is certainly not in the top 3 in the NFL in talent, and only arguably in the top 5. The 3 deepest 53 man rosters are almost assuredly the Chiefs, Ravens, and 49ers in a debatable order. Then in my eyes you have the Saints, Cowboys, even the Bucs depending on what you get from them. Why would you bet on the Super Bowl with that situation when if you just bet on yourself, you will probably win considering if he just does what he did last year he wins.

You may be right but how much of that was the dysfunctional coaching we have had? I bet some of the coaches of those teams could take this roster and way outperform what Garrett and company did. I think the current overall roster stacks up against any team. There are weak spots but hopefully real coaching and scheme can help overcome them.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

It’s going to be difficult to build a better defense unless we do it thru the draft. Our key offensive talent though is under contract for next 4 years.

Basically Dak and our offensive talent and Cap heavy group will need to be our strength carrying us. Further than they did last year as the #1 offense.

We have a RB and WR's, we still fall a little short at TE (until Jarwin can prove he can be the starter for 16 games and block and produce) but our O-Line is starting to show cracks, Freddy is gone Tyron is starting to slow down and his body is starting to fail him a little more each year (he is only 29 but he is a 10 year vet now) Martin's body has started to break down a little more each of the last 2 season, nothing serious yet but you have to know it's coming and he is also 29 years old. Having an average O-Line does not bode well for our offense

 

[erod]

This is like paying $75 for a gallon of milk.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

This is like paying $75 for a gallon of milk.

and the milk winds up being sour!!

 

[Diehardblues]

Of course Mahomes would blow them both out of the water now. But that's one of the points worth noting because Dak's pay (or any player's pay) doesn't just come down to a position ranking the way some like to treat it. It is simply a matter of the market conditions at the time a player is negotiating. If Dak does become the highest of close to the highest paid player, it isn't a statement that he is better than all other players, or all other QB's, it's just a statement that given the position he players and the time in which he was negotiating, the market conditions were favorable for that kind of contract.

But it is a statement as such. Much like it would be for any player and position at the time.

Dak is using the Wilson contract as a measuring tool which means he places himself in that category. Which isn’t just about the money. He obviously believes or is at least presenting he’s in that same area code or higher as far as talent.

And I think there are fans that believe that as well . Which is fine. They are certainly allowed to believe what they want. I certainly wouldn’t place him up there in talent level. Somewhere closer to the Wentz / Goff deals seems plenty generous of Daks passing ability to me.

 

[Cowboys22]

This is like paying $75 for a gallon of milk.

When you got one for $5 yesterday and still have 4/5ths of it left!

 

[Diehardblues]

This is like paying $75 for a gallon of milk.

Where do you think we should pay Dak? Is he in the neighborhood of Wentz and Goff?

 

[phildadon86]

He hired them to take care of them for him, that is what they do. What your talking about has nothing to do with contract negotiations.

All I’m saying is even if they presented the offer to him. Which is what agents do. He probably hasn’t even looked at it. He’s mourning. Let’s not forget his mother passed as well and yesterday was Mother’s Day.

 

[Diehardblues]

You may be right but how much of that was the dysfunctional coaching we have had? I bet some of the coaches of those teams could take this roster and way outperform what Garrett and company did. I think the current overall roster stacks up against any team. There are weak spots but hopefully real coaching and scheme can help overcome them.

Does this mean all of the QB’s out there lack of passing abilities falls on their coaching?

Remember McCarthy was fired because he underperformed with Rodgers his last season there.

 

[CowboysLegends2]

Sure give Dak a defense that won't fold in the 4th quarter. That'd help.

Maybe if Dak could get into the end zone in qtr 1-3 then the defense can be more effective in qtr 4?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

And you think based on Dak's 4 year totals that his production warrants 35M+ and 105M= in guarantees? which i guess he thinks may not be enough? cause if he does ever sign for 5 years he is going to want more money in order to give the Cowboys the 5th year on a deal. C'mon to smart for that. He doesn't stand a chance of living up to that kind of deal

You guys keep asking what do I think he's worth. What I think he's worth is irrelevant. I would've gave Carson Wentz a 20 million dollar per year deal and I would've gave Dak just a little bit better than that.

But what I believe he's worth isn't a reality.

 

[WoodysGirl]

What is really new about this report? It's always been about the length of the contract. 4 years vs 5 years.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Maybe if Dak could get into the end zone in qtr 1-3 then the defense can be more effective in qtr 4?

What about that Zeke guy? Doesn't he help score too or no?

 

[Diehardblues]

We have a RB and WR's, we still fall a little short at TE (until Jarwin can prove he can be the starter for 16 games and block and produce) but our O-Line is starting to show cracks, Freddy is gone Tyron is starting to slow down and his body is starting to fail him a little more each year (he is only 29 but he is a 10 year vet now) Martin's body has started to break down a little more each of the last 2 season, nothing serious yet but you have to know it's coming and he is also 29 years old. Having an average O-Line does not bode well for our offense

This supporting cast we have on offense is one of the most talented and Cap heavy in the league.

And it’s needed because our QB has illustrated he’s not as effective without such Elite supporting group.

If we over pay a less than Elite QB he’s going to need to elevate lesser talent around him at some point.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

What is really new about this report? It's always been about the length of the contract. 4 years vs 5 years.

The dollars. I haven’t heard any specifics on the that until now (presuming it’s true).

 

[Adreme]

You may be right but how much of that was the dysfunctional coaching we have had? I bet some of the coaches of those teams could take this roster and way outperform what Garrett and company did. I think the current overall roster stacks up against any team. There are weak spots but hopefully real coaching and scheme can help overcome them.

I was just using talent on the roster. If I were going off of talent+coaching, well the Cowboys were not one of the 12 teams to make the playoffs so they could not be top 10 and that was despite a very soft schedule.