Video: Marcus Spears goes off on Dak Prescott contract situation

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The team is totally fine with Dak playing on a one year deal. There is no downside to that. They can tag him again next season.
IF that's the case, why would Jerry even be trying to work out a long term deal? Much of the talk is that the hang up on the deal is Jerry wants a 5-6 year contract, and Dak doesn't want to be locked in that long with no ability to negotiate under whatever market exists for QB's in3-4 years.
 

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That is not true. I don't think anyone here believes Dak is a great quarterback but I think a lot of think he can become one.

People post stats to make those who discredit him look like fools. Its not to trying convince anyone he can be a franchise qb.
This is the problem with trying to have a reasonable discussion with some people. Some only seem to be able to talk in terms of Dak being a bum, or being elite, witout regard to the fact there is a hell of a lot of room in between.
 

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This is the problem with trying to have a reasonable discussion with some people. Some only seem to be able to talk in terms of Dak being a bum, or being elite, witout regard to the fact there is a hell of a lot of room in between.

Ive been saying this for weeks. It’s totally ok to like the guy but not think he should get Top 5 money. There is no hate in that. There is a ton of wiggle room in that “Like” spectrum. No extremes needed
 

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This is the problem with trying to have a reasonable discussion with some people. Some only seem to be able to talk in terms of Dak being a bum, or being elite, witout regard to the fact there is a hell of a lot of room in between.
That is the problem,, Dak is a Good QB,, why you pointing at me,, Ive always said that,, just talk to me,,you don't have to go behind my back to do it..
 

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This argument has been said since Wentz and goff were signed.
 

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This is the problem with trying to have a reasonable discussion with some people. Some only seem to be able to talk in terms of Dak being a bum, or being elite, witout regard to the fact there is a hell of a lot of room in between.
Ive never claimed Dak to be anywhere near a Bum .. that's the real issue, the faction of the fan base that cant just admit that Dak is far from a Bum and even much farther from elite.
 

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If Dak plays on the one-year deal, he's going to need to be spectacular and take this team to the Super Bowl, especially with another weapon in the offense's arsenal.

He simply cannot be a bus driver and fall short. Play like a bus driver and fall short and McCarthy and the Joneses will see that he's not capable of driving a Ferrari full throttle. Then they'll think that Dalton will be a better alternative or maybe look for a better quarterback in the draft.

As far as I'm concerned, if he goes into this year not having signed a contract, this is the scenario he's looking at.

P.S. I agree with Marcus Spears.

yeah, if anything screams high end, push a team over the top QB it’s Andy Dalton.
 

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dak is a good qb he may never be good enough to win a championship but he might to I think if they don't sign him to a long term deal before july 15th I think this will not end well for him and the team this should not be this big of a deal but he is dug in now and so are the jones so this could really end badly for him and the team looks like the jones are going to mess things up this year again
 

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That is the problem,, Dak is a Good QB,, why you pointing at me,, Ive always said that,, just talk to me,,you don't have to go behind my back to do it..
lol - behind your back? Do you think I was assuming there was anyone not able to read my post?

I was responding to rocyaice, and frankly didn't even know who he was responding to in his comments. Maybe I should have backtracked to read what you had said to him. Sorry if I missed something.
 

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I'm asking this in sincerity because I don't know how everyone thinks on this issue:

Can a good quarterback be a bus driver? How would fans rank the levels of quarterback play, however you rank them?

Thanks.
 

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yeah, if anything screams high end, push a team over the top QB it’s Andy Dalton.
:laugh:

That was funny.

Now, let me explain what I mean. Obviously, the Joneses think they have a Ferrari of an offense. They've built the team so that any competent quarterback should be able to step in and lead this team.

That's why Stephen said they want to pay a quarterback in a range where they can still build a Super Bowl-caliber team. You DON'T say that during contract negotiations if your quarterback is Patrick Mahome, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady (in their younger years), at least not publicly.
You DO say it if you don't think your quarterback is special and gives you that x-factor that compensates for lesser talent. Yes, Stephen said Dak is a leader. But his dollars aint saying Dak is the leader they're willing to break the bank over.

As for Dalton, he has experience. He hasn't had a team like the Cowboys' team. And he hasn't had an offensive-minded head coach (Marvin Lewis was a defensive-minded coach).
Dalton would have Zeke as a running back, Tyron Smith, Lael Collins and Zack Martin as offensive linemen and Cooper, Gallup and Lamb as receivers, plus a new offensive scheme.
The way Jerry and Stephen may be thinking is … "Who couldn't succeed with this offense?"

The Cowboys signed Dalton for a reason, which is obvious. Whether Dak is or isn't back, whether he gets injured in a game or holds out, the Cowboys need a cheap, plug-and-play option as a backup so the Cowboys' season isn't flushed down the toilet based on Dak's unavailability.

No more Cooper Rushes. No more Mike Whites. No more trusting this Lamborghini of an offense to Driver's Ed students. We need an experienced driver. That is what Dalton represents.
 
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Ive never claimed Dak to be anywhere near a Bum .. that's the real issue, the faction of the fan base that cant just admit that Dak is far from a Bum and even much farther from elite.
The problem is there are a lot more bums than elites. A team - and fans - have to realize there aren't a lot of Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Mahomes and Wilson type players to go around, and they can't give up on a player because he isn't at that level. I've said this many times, but those players are so rare you have to go back 15-20 years to find when 3 of them were drafted. So most teams are competing over the next level after that, and in my mind there are maybe 8 QB's that fall somewhere in that next level. I think Dak is one of them.
 

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Damn man,, did you just miss a step off the front porch?
Ofcourse he can become one,, you investing history setting investment on hope...lmao
Do you understand the intricacies of what you just said?

Uhhh....isn't that what a investment is?

You purchase something at a price in hope of getting more in return than what you paid?

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This is the problem with trying to have a reasonable discussion with some people. Some only seem to be able to talk in terms of Dak being a bum, or being elite, witout regard to the fact there is a hell of a lot of room in between.
Right. And that's been my stance. You can call me what you want. I support Dak. But I've never once said he was a top 5 quarterback. And I haven't seen many that have said. But no one can make a point without extremes or hyperbole it seems. Now his ceiling? To me he has a high ceiling based on what I've seen in the first four years of his career.
 

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I'm asking this in sincerity because I don't know how everyone thinks on this issue:

Can a good quarterback be a bus driver? How would fans rank the levels of quarterback play, however you rank them?

Thanks.

My personal opinion, the idea that QBs, every single QB, is something other then a system QB is patently untrue, for the most part. Almost all QBs are system QBs IMO.
 

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The problem is there are a lot more bums than elites. A team - and fans - have to realize there aren't a lot of Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Mahomes and Wilson type players to go around, and they can't give up on a player because he isn't at that level. I've said this many times, but those players are so rare you have to go back 15-20 years to find when 3 of them were drafted. So most teams are competing over the next level after that, and in my mind there are maybe 8 QB's that fall somewhere in that next level. I think Dak is one of them.
I agree to an extent, and the Cowboys aren't investing in what your or I believe in, they are a smarter franchise now, today, now, rather or not anyone wants to agree with that is up to them...lol
 
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