Arguments against Dak's demands, and analysis of the payment to QB

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If we look at the highest paid QBs and their history of superbowl and superbowl wins appearances, we will see a reality that should change, first let's look at Aaron Rodgers, he was selected in 2005 and it was until 2011 that he led packers to the superbowl and they won it. Between those years he had a salary between 10M and 22M per year, it was until 2018 that he was given a contract for an average salary of 33.5M per year, at the age of 34, since 2011 he has not had appearances in a Superbowl again. and from what you see he is in the final stretch of his career because he is already 36 years old.

Now let's look at Russel Wilson, he was selected in 2012, it was until 2014 that he led the Seahawks to the superbowl and they won it, and he had another appearance in the superbowl the following year and lost him. After winning the superbowl he was given a contract of 21.9 M per year, and it was until 2019 that he was given the 35M contract per year, at the age of 30, since 2015 he has not had appearances in superbowls, and this year 2020 he does not have very high expectations to get back to a superbowl

now it's Ben Roethlisberger's turn, he was selected in 2004, it was in 2006 that he had an appearance in the superbowl and they won it, then in 2009 they came back to the superbowl and they won it, and in 2011 they came again and this once they lost it. Between 2006 and 2011 he had a presence in the superbowl Ben had a salary between 14.6M and 21.8M, it was until 2019 that he was given the average 34M salary per year, at the age of 37, from 2011 has had no appearance at the Superbowl, and has no high expectations of reappearance.

Matt Ryan, selected in 2008 in the first round, led his team to the superbowl until 2017, his contracts before playing the superbowl between 2008 and 2017 was between 11.2M and 20.7M, until 2018 he received a 30M contract per year at 33 years. has little prospect of returning to the superbowl

These contracts can be said to be fair, but they are still excessive because there is no certainty that they will return to a Superbowl, the following contracts are a sign of corruption that is affecting current contracts, bad business, hasty and baseless.

It is the turn of Jared Goff, he was selected in 2016 selected number one global, and it was in 2019 that he had an appearance in superbowl which they lost, he just signed a contract for 33.5M at the age of 25, very hasty in my opinion. has medium expectations of returning to the superbowl,

Carson Wentz, selected in 2016 and had an appearance and guided the eagles to the superbowl in 2018, the same won but by the hand of Nick Foles, in 2019 he signed a very hasty contract of 32M per year, since he is very prone to get injured, you have a good chance of going back to a superbowl,

Kirk Cousins, selected in 2012, has had no superbowl appearances, just received a 28M contract per year, at age 33, bad contract,

Jacoby Brissett, selected in 2016, does not have appearances in the super bowl, he has not achieved anything, in 2019 he was given a salary of 27.98 M at the age of 27 very bad contract.

Jimmy Garoppolo, selected in 2014, had an appearance in the superbowl as a substitute for Brady in 2015, it was until 2019 that he led San Francisco to the super bowl which they lost. in 2018 he receives a contract that averages 27.5M per year at the age of 26. a regular contract, since it is not an elite QB,

Finally, Matthew Stafford, the first round selection in 2009, has no super bowl appearances, nor has he achieved anything, but in 2017 he was given a contract of 27M per year, another bad contract, but the price of being the same is the same. selection 1 of the draft,

If we compare them with the great Tom Brady, they are far from his quality in all aspects, Brady has had a maximum salary of 25M but throughout his career he has been between 12M and 19M per year, in summary Dak's ego is very high, pretending to win more than several that in a way have done something to deserve a high contract, but from what we saw, having a better paid QB in the league does not guarantee that he will win a Superbowl, a team does not need a QB with many dollars, I require that they invest in the entire team and make it competitive, so for me Dak is a moron, an opportunist, who should not be part of the jeans, with Dak or without Dak The team has a chance of making it to the Superbowl because it has talent on its roster. Dak is a squeaky kid, hopefully the Joneses soon get tired and look for another alternative, and focus on the team and not Dak, Dak is not a guarantee of winning a Superbowl, the guarantee is to have a very good team around your QB,
 

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Ok, one more time. Contract negotiations have nothing to do with who DESERVES what based on whatever.

It has everything to do with what each sides alternative is.

Prescott is holding most of those cards, because the team is built to contend during the term of the contract, and Jerry isnt going to let that go. He cant jump on Amazon (or Texaco as Parcells liked to say) and get a replacement.

Is Prescott the BEST QB? No, but when he signs his deal he will be the highest paid until someone who is better becomes a free agent also, and that's how it's going to be.
 

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I'm sure this has been done to death.
In the end, it doesn't matter because the Jones family will pay Dak what he wants and that is probably the right thing to do.

Part of me thinks I'd be fine with a bus driver. It's only a couple of years ago we wouldn't have cared whether Dak was here or not.
 

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Ok, one more time. Contract negotiations have nothing to do with who DESERVES what based on whatever.

It has everything to do with what each sides alternative is.

Prescott is holding most of those cards, because the team is built to contend during the term of the contract, and Jerry isnt going to let that go. He cant jump on Amazon (or Texaco as Parcells liked to say) and get a replacement.

Is Prescott the BEST QB? No, but when he signs his deal he will be the highest paid until someone who is better becomes a free agent also, and that's how it's going to be.

Well, the way I see it, not only can Jerry go out and do that, Jerry just did do that by signing Dalton.
 

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We really need a Dak Zone.
Shame there isn't an option to "ignore" threads as well. There's members in here who post long and agonizing posts almost every day. I scroll right past them. If it's more than a paragraph, forget about it. :laugh:

Kinda feel bad that he put so much work Into to it!!
No you don't. I KNOW you too well. BOOM! :p
 

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Well, the way I see it, not only can Jerry go out and do that, Jerry just did do that by signing Dalton.
Yes, if you feel that Dalton is on the same level or better than Prescott.

Matter of opinion. In this case, theres only one that matters and he has made his position clear.

Me? I dont care who the QB is, I just want to have a chance at not being done in early January for a change.
 

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Yes, if you feel that Dalton is on the same level or better than Prescott.

Matter of opinion. In this case, theres only one that matters and he has made his position clear.

Me? I dont care who the QB is, I just want to have a chance at not being done in early January for a change.

It's not so much that I feel he is equal or even better or worse. Each of the two have certain strengths to their games. It's that I feel the overall strength of the talent on Offense is ridiculous. This Offense is seriously loaded this year.
 

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The argument could be made that you could take Prescotts money and get yourself 2-3 defensive studs and be an all around better team with Dalton driving the bus.

Hard to say, but the way this team is currently put together, I think they are better off with Prescott over Dalton. He is overall better right now.
 

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What are Dak's demands? From what I understand he wants a 4 year deal and the Cowboys want 5 - or something like that. But is this true?

We can debate all year if Dak's demands are reasonable or not, but first we need to know exactly what Dak is asking for that the Cowboys are not willing to give.
 

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What are Dak's demands? From what I understand he wants a 4 year deal and the Cowboys want 5 - or something like that. But is this true?

We can debate all year if Dak's demands are reasonable or not, but first we need to know exactly what Dak is asking for that the Cowboys are not willing to give.

Ding-ding......
 

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If we look at the highest paid QBs and their history of superbowl and superbowl wins appearances, we will see a reality that should change, first let's look at Aaron Rodgers, he was selected in 2005 and it was until 2011 that he led packers to the superbowl and they won it. Between those years he had a salary between 10M and 22M per year, it was until 2018 that he was given a contract for an average salary of 33.5M per year, at the age of 34, since 2011 he has not had appearances in a Superbowl again. and from what you see he is in the final stretch of his career because he is already 36 years old.

Now let's look at Russel Wilson, he was selected in 2012, it was until 2014 that he led the Seahawks to the superbowl and they won it, and he had another appearance in the superbowl the following year and lost him. After winning the superbowl he was given a contract of 21.9 M per year, and it was until 2019 that he was given the 35M contract per year, at the age of 30, since 2015 he has not had appearances in superbowls, and this year 2020 he does not have very high expectations to get back to a superbowl

now it's Ben Roethlisberger's turn, he was selected in 2004, it was in 2006 that he had an appearance in the superbowl and they won it, then in 2009 they came back to the superbowl and they won it, and in 2011 they came again and this once they lost it. Between 2006 and 2011 he had a presence in the superbowl Ben had a salary between 14.6M and 21.8M, it was until 2019 that he was given the average 34M salary per year, at the age of 37, from 2011 has had no appearance at the Superbowl, and has no high expectations of reappearance.

Matt Ryan, selected in 2008 in the first round, led his team to the superbowl until 2017, his contracts before playing the superbowl between 2008 and 2017 was between 11.2M and 20.7M, until 2018 he received a 30M contract per year at 33 years. has little prospect of returning to the superbowl

These contracts can be said to be fair, but they are still excessive because there is no certainty that they will return to a Superbowl, the following contracts are a sign of corruption that is affecting current contracts, bad business, hasty and baseless.

It is the turn of Jared Goff, he was selected in 2016 selected number one global, and it was in 2019 that he had an appearance in superbowl which they lost, he just signed a contract for 33.5M at the age of 25, very hasty in my opinion. has medium expectations of returning to the superbowl,

Carson Wentz, selected in 2016 and had an appearance and guided the eagles to the superbowl in 2018, the same won but by the hand of Nick Foles, in 2019 he signed a very hasty contract of 32M per year, since he is very prone to get injured, you have a good chance of going back to a superbowl,

Kirk Cousins, selected in 2012, has had no superbowl appearances, just received a 28M contract per year, at age 33, bad contract,

Jacoby Brissett, selected in 2016, does not have appearances in the super bowl, he has not achieved anything, in 2019 he was given a salary of 27.98 M at the age of 27 very bad contract.

Jimmy Garoppolo, selected in 2014, had an appearance in the superbowl as a substitute for Brady in 2015, it was until 2019 that he led San Francisco to the super bowl which they lost. in 2018 he receives a contract that averages 27.5M per year at the age of 26. a regular contract, since it is not an elite QB,

Finally, Matthew Stafford, the first round selection in 2009, has no super bowl appearances, nor has he achieved anything, but in 2017 he was given a contract of 27M per year, another bad contract, but the price of being the same is the same. selection 1 of the draft,

If we compare them with the great Tom Brady, they are far from his quality in all aspects, Brady has had a maximum salary of 25M but throughout his career he has been between 12M and 19M per year, in summary Dak's ego is very high, pretending to win more than several that in a way have done something to deserve a high contract, but from what we saw, having a better paid QB in the league does not guarantee that he will win a Superbowl, a team does not need a QB with many dollars, I require that they invest in the entire team and make it competitive, so for me Dak is a moron, an opportunist, who should not be part of the jeans, with Dak or without Dak The team has a chance of making it to the Superbowl because it has talent on its roster. Dak is a squeaky kid, hopefully the Joneses soon get tired and look for another alternative, and focus on the team and not Dak, Dak is not a guarantee of winning a Superbowl, the guarantee is to have a very good team around your QB,
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If we look at the highest paid QBs and their history of superbowl and superbowl wins appearances, we will see a reality that should change, first let's look at Aaron Rodgers, he was selected in 2005 and it was until 2011 that he led packers to the superbowl and they won it. Between those years he had a salary between 10M and 22M per year, it was until 2018 that he was given a contract for an average salary of 33.5M per year, at the age of 34, since 2011 he has not had appearances in a Superbowl again. and from what you see he is in the final stretch of his career because he is already 36 years old.

Now let's look at Russel Wilson, he was selected in 2012, it was until 2014 that he led the Seahawks to the superbowl and they won it, and he had another appearance in the superbowl the following year and lost him. After winning the superbowl he was given a contract of 21.9 M per year, and it was until 2019 that he was given the 35M contract per year, at the age of 30, since 2015 he has not had appearances in superbowls, and this year 2020 he does not have very high expectations to get back to a superbowl

now it's Ben Roethlisberger's turn, he was selected in 2004, it was in 2006 that he had an appearance in the superbowl and they won it, then in 2009 they came back to the superbowl and they won it, and in 2011 they came again and this once they lost it. Between 2006 and 2011 he had a presence in the superbowl Ben had a salary between 14.6M and 21.8M, it was until 2019 that he was given the average 34M salary per year, at the age of 37, from 2011 has had no appearance at the Superbowl, and has no high expectations of reappearance.

Matt Ryan, selected in 2008 in the first round, led his team to the superbowl until 2017, his contracts before playing the superbowl between 2008 and 2017 was between 11.2M and 20.7M, until 2018 he received a 30M contract per year at 33 years. has little prospect of returning to the superbowl

These contracts can be said to be fair, but they are still excessive because there is no certainty that they will return to a Superbowl, the following contracts are a sign of corruption that is affecting current contracts, bad business, hasty and baseless.

It is the turn of Jared Goff, he was selected in 2016 selected number one global, and it was in 2019 that he had an appearance in superbowl which they lost, he just signed a contract for 33.5M at the age of 25, very hasty in my opinion. has medium expectations of returning to the superbowl,

Carson Wentz, selected in 2016 and had an appearance and guided the eagles to the superbowl in 2018, the same won but by the hand of Nick Foles, in 2019 he signed a very hasty contract of 32M per year, since he is very prone to get injured, you have a good chance of going back to a superbowl,

Kirk Cousins, selected in 2012, has had no superbowl appearances, just received a 28M contract per year, at age 33, bad contract,

Jacoby Brissett, selected in 2016, does not have appearances in the super bowl, he has not achieved anything, in 2019 he was given a salary of 27.98 M at the age of 27 very bad contract.

Jimmy Garoppolo, selected in 2014, had an appearance in the superbowl as a substitute for Brady in 2015, it was until 2019 that he led San Francisco to the super bowl which they lost. in 2018 he receives a contract that averages 27.5M per year at the age of 26. a regular contract, since it is not an elite QB,

Finally, Matthew Stafford, the first round selection in 2009, has no super bowl appearances, nor has he achieved anything, but in 2017 he was given a contract of 27M per year, another bad contract, but the price of being the same is the same. selection 1 of the draft,

If we compare them with the great Tom Brady, they are far from his quality in all aspects, Brady has had a maximum salary of 25M but throughout his career he has been between 12M and 19M per year, in summary Dak's ego is very high, pretending to win more than several that in a way have done something to deserve a high contract, but from what we saw, having a better paid QB in the league does not guarantee that he will win a Superbowl, a team does not need a QB with many dollars, I require that they invest in the entire team and make it competitive, so for me Dak is a moron, an opportunist, who should not be part of the jeans, with Dak or without Dak The team has a chance of making it to the Superbowl because it has talent on its roster. Dak is a squeaky kid, hopefully the Joneses soon get tired and look for another alternative, and focus on the team and not Dak, Dak is not a guarantee of winning a Superbowl, the guarantee is to have a very good team around your QB,
you used an exception, in this case Brady to make a rule!!!

Eli manning was the highest paid QB in the league when he signed I believe his first contract. he went on to win a couple of superbowls.

Grapolo just led his team to a superbowl. his 27.5 is average now. what was it when he signed it?

kirk cousin I believe just got a two year extension at 33M/year

you made no sense with you post.. you didn't take into account the price of a QB over time and made a bunch of bad analysis.....time wasted.....
 

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you used an exception, in this case Brady to make a rule!!!

Eli manning was the highest paid QB in the league when he signed I believe his first contract. he went on to win a couple of superbowls.

Grapolo just led his team to a superbowl. his 27.5 is average now. what was it when he signed it?

kirk cousin I believe just got a two year extension at 33M/year

you made no sense with you post.. you didn't take into account the price of a QB over time and made a bunch of bad analysis.....time wasted.....


The argument here is that looking at the examples, it is not required to pay a QB what they want to win a Superbowl, which is what the Joneses want, the examples are in the 10 highest paid QB, the only exception I see is Big Ben. , he does deserve that salary that they are paying him, he has already been to 3 Superbowls, but paying Dak does not guarantee winning a Superbowl, just spending the money to improve the team, and for example hiring another veteran QB to help Dalton if At some point it can't, the point is that the cowboys can be competitive to win a superbowl, not that Dak's crying boy gets paid to maybe win a superbowl, Dak isn't the insurance. buy scarves to the crying boy.
 

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If we look at the highest paid QBs and their history of superbowl and superbowl wins appearances, we will see a reality that should change, first let's look at Aaron Rodgers, he was selected in 2005 and it was until 2011 that he led packers to the superbowl and they won it. Between those years he had a salary between 10M and 22M per year, it was until 2018 that he was given a contract for an average salary of 33.5M per year, at the age of 34, since 2011 he has not had appearances in a Superbowl again. and from what you see he is in the final stretch of his career because he is already 36 years old.

Now let's look at Russel Wilson, he was selected in 2012, it was until 2014 that he led the Seahawks to the superbowl and they won it, and he had another appearance in the superbowl the following year and lost him. After winning the superbowl he was given a contract of 21.9 M per year, and it was until 2019 that he was given the 35M contract per year, at the age of 30, since 2015 he has not had appearances in superbowls, and this year 2020 he does not have very high expectations to get back to a superbowl

now it's Ben Roethlisberger's turn, he was selected in 2004, it was in 2006 that he had an appearance in the superbowl and they won it, then in 2009 they came back to the superbowl and they won it, and in 2011 they came again and this once they lost it. Between 2006 and 2011 he had a presence in the superbowl Ben had a salary between 14.6M and 21.8M, it was until 2019 that he was given the average 34M salary per year, at the age of 37, from 2011 has had no appearance at the Superbowl, and has no high expectations of reappearance.

Matt Ryan, selected in 2008 in the first round, led his team to the superbowl until 2017, his contracts before playing the superbowl between 2008 and 2017 was between 11.2M and 20.7M, until 2018 he received a 30M contract per year at 33 years. has little prospect of returning to the superbowl

These contracts can be said to be fair, but they are still excessive because there is no certainty that they will return to a Superbowl, the following contracts are a sign of corruption that is affecting current contracts, bad business, hasty and baseless.

It is the turn of Jared Goff, he was selected in 2016 selected number one global, and it was in 2019 that he had an appearance in superbowl which they lost, he just signed a contract for 33.5M at the age of 25, very hasty in my opinion. has medium expectations of returning to the superbowl,

Carson Wentz, selected in 2016 and had an appearance and guided the eagles to the superbowl in 2018, the same won but by the hand of Nick Foles, in 2019 he signed a very hasty contract of 32M per year, since he is very prone to get injured, you have a good chance of going back to a superbowl,

Kirk Cousins, selected in 2012, has had no superbowl appearances, just received a 28M contract per year, at age 33, bad contract,

Jacoby Brissett, selected in 2016, does not have appearances in the super bowl, he has not achieved anything, in 2019 he was given a salary of 27.98 M at the age of 27 very bad contract.

Jimmy Garoppolo, selected in 2014, had an appearance in the superbowl as a substitute for Brady in 2015, it was until 2019 that he led San Francisco to the super bowl which they lost. in 2018 he receives a contract that averages 27.5M per year at the age of 26. a regular contract, since it is not an elite QB,

Finally, Matthew Stafford, the first round selection in 2009, has no super bowl appearances, nor has he achieved anything, but in 2017 he was given a contract of 27M per year, another bad contract, but the price of being the same is the same. selection 1 of the draft,

If we compare them with the great Tom Brady, they are far from his quality in all aspects, Brady has had a maximum salary of 25M but throughout his career he has been between 12M and 19M per year, in summary Dak's ego is very high, pretending to win more than several that in a way have done something to deserve a high contract, but from what we saw, having a better paid QB in the league does not guarantee that he will win a Superbowl, a team does not need a QB with many dollars, I require that they invest in the entire team and make it competitive, so for me Dak is a moron, an opportunist, who should not be part of the jeans, with Dak or without Dak The team has a chance of making it to the Superbowl because it has talent on its roster. Dak is a squeaky kid, hopefully the Joneses soon get tired and look for another alternative, and focus on the team and not Dak, Dak is not a guarantee of winning a Superbowl, the guarantee is to have a very good team around your QB,
you make good points but owners get scared and keep paying and the vicious circle will continue..it il take few owners saying no and standing their ground like Washington did with Cousins but so far its not making a great statement because they are still bad and cant find a qb..

I stay at some point the league will cap all positions at a % of he cap it cant exceed to stop the in balance from the best skilled player to qb, no way they are worth 2, 2.5 times the best DE, CB, S, or WR..no fn way..

this isnt just about Dak but the talk about paying him close to 2mil agame makes be shudder...thats bad business regardless of who it is..
 

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If we look at the highest paid QBs and their history of superbowl and superbowl wins appearances, we will see a reality that should change, first let's look at Aaron Rodgers, he was selected in 2005 and it was until 2011 that he led packers to the superbowl and they won it. Between those years he had a salary between 10M and 22M per year, it was until 2018 that he was given a contract for an average salary of 33.5M per year, at the age of 34, since 2011 he has not had appearances in a Superbowl again. and from what you see he is in the final stretch of his career because he is already 36 years old.

Now let's look at Russel Wilson, he was selected in 2012, it was until 2014 that he led the Seahawks to the superbowl and they won it, and he had another appearance in the superbowl the following year and lost him. After winning the superbowl he was given a contract of 21.9 M per year, and it was until 2019 that he was given the 35M contract per year, at the age of 30, since 2015 he has not had appearances in superbowls, and this year 2020 he does not have very high expectations to get back to a superbowl

now it's Ben Roethlisberger's turn, he was selected in 2004, it was in 2006 that he had an appearance in the superbowl and they won it, then in 2009 they came back to the superbowl and they won it, and in 2011 they came again and this once they lost it. Between 2006 and 2011 he had a presence in the superbowl Ben had a salary between 14.6M and 21.8M, it was until 2019 that he was given the average 34M salary per year, at the age of 37, from 2011 has had no appearance at the Superbowl, and has no high expectations of reappearance.

Matt Ryan, selected in 2008 in the first round, led his team to the superbowl until 2017, his contracts before playing the superbowl between 2008 and 2017 was between 11.2M and 20.7M, until 2018 he received a 30M contract per year at 33 years. has little prospect of returning to the superbowl

These contracts can be said to be fair, but they are still excessive because there is no certainty that they will return to a Superbowl, the following contracts are a sign of corruption that is affecting current contracts, bad business, hasty and baseless.

It is the turn of Jared Goff, he was selected in 2016 selected number one global, and it was in 2019 that he had an appearance in superbowl which they lost, he just signed a contract for 33.5M at the age of 25, very hasty in my opinion. has medium expectations of returning to the superbowl,

Carson Wentz, selected in 2016 and had an appearance and guided the eagles to the superbowl in 2018, the same won but by the hand of Nick Foles, in 2019 he signed a very hasty contract of 32M per year, since he is very prone to get injured, you have a good chance of going back to a superbowl,

Kirk Cousins, selected in 2012, has had no superbowl appearances, just received a 28M contract per year, at age 33, bad contract,

Jacoby Brissett, selected in 2016, does not have appearances in the super bowl, he has not achieved anything, in 2019 he was given a salary of 27.98 M at the age of 27 very bad contract.

Jimmy Garoppolo, selected in 2014, had an appearance in the superbowl as a substitute for Brady in 2015, it was until 2019 that he led San Francisco to the super bowl which they lost. in 2018 he receives a contract that averages 27.5M per year at the age of 26. a regular contract, since it is not an elite QB,

Finally, Matthew Stafford, the first round selection in 2009, has no super bowl appearances, nor has he achieved anything, but in 2017 he was given a contract of 27M per year, another bad contract, but the price of being the same is the same. selection 1 of the draft,

If we compare them with the great Tom Brady, they are far from his quality in all aspects, Brady has had a maximum salary of 25M but throughout his career he has been between 12M and 19M per year, in summary Dak's ego is very high, pretending to win more than several that in a way have done something to deserve a high contract, but from what we saw, having a better paid QB in the league does not guarantee that he will win a Superbowl, a team does not need a QB with many dollars, I require that they invest in the entire team and make it competitive, so for me Dak is a moron, an opportunist, who should not be part of the jeans, with Dak or without Dak The team has a chance of making it to the Superbowl because it has talent on its roster. Dak is a squeaky kid, hopefully the Joneses soon get tired and look for another alternative, and focus on the team and not Dak, Dak is not a guarantee of winning a Superbowl, the guarantee is to have a very good team around your QB,
lol - there is so much wrong with this.

First is the thread title/premise. The reality is we don't know what Dak's demands are. There are all sorts of different media reports on this that don't agree, and none of it is substantiated by any known source that would have access to the facts. Plus media speculation has been proven unreliable so often it's hard to believe fans take any of it seriously.

Second, what happened with players and contracts 5-10 years ago is irrelevant. Teams don't offer contracts based on 5-10 years ago, they offer them based on current market conditions and whatever they can negotiate. Same on the players side.

Third, Wentz did not guide his team to the Super Bowl in 2018 - not a single game he played in during the Eagles Super Bowl season was in 2018, plus the Eagles did not have the division locked up when Wentz went down, much less a trip to the Super Bowl.

Fourth, where is the corruption you suggested? If you think contracts are ill advised, that's okay, you can have that opinion, but even if you are right, that's not a sign of corruption, that's just a bad business decision.

A final comment .... while I agree prices for QBs seem crazy, all these teams paying QBs between $25-35 million/year are owned by very wealthy people who pay very well educated and highly experienced people to help them make these kinds of decisions, so they have to feel there is a benefit to paying those prices that goes beyond what a poster on this site sees.
 
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Well, the way I see it, not only can Jerry go out and do that, Jerry just did do that by signing Dalton.

He signed someone who is not a top 30 QB. All Dalton is capable of making you good enough to not pick in the top 10 so you will never be really able to find a viable replacement. You replace a top 7-13 QB with a someone in the 28-35 range and all you have is a team that will be trapped in QB purgatory.
 
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