Connor Williams as a Center

[btcutter]

because we have Looney, MCgovern and the new draft pick to compete at C sorry it will never happen.. hes a G/T I see him better at RT or possibly a Swing tackle nut if TS retires soon you kick LC out to LT and CWill a try at RT

we have far too many C options now..the best one will emerge and Cwill wont even practice there..he will compete with the loser at C battle for LG..that will be all..

It'll never happen because our FO has never been able to think much outside the box. We continue to try to put square pegs in to a circle.

This site has proposed FOREVER for Collins to play RT. How long did that take?
We knew we had a better LG with SuaFilo (sp) than Williams but FO refuse to admit.
Pick Taco instead of Watts
Pick Hill instead of the many starting quality S.

Now that we have what the FO believe to be a steal in Biadez there's no way Williams gets a shot a C. Williams will be playing his last season as a Cowboy at LG either as a starter or backup.
Williams maybe our LT for all we know but we will never find out because of the FO.

Just maybe...maybe McCarthy thinks differently now....

 

[quickccc]

Williams will get a chance to prove his mettle this year when he competes with Looney and McGovern at the center spot. Granted, it will be some tough competition and he's still young yet, so there's room for both Williams and McGovern to round into shape to compete. The rookie Biadasz is yet another who figures to be in the mix.

I really wouldn't hold it against either of them if Looney's experience at the OC position makes him the favorite -- at least early in the season. They all have some favorable talents to compete well. I'd say Williams might be hard pressed to overcome his competitors.

Whatever happens, there should be some interesting competition at center, without a doubt. If the practice time is limited, that'd likely make it considerably tougher to overcome Looney's experience. Come what may, in the end, may the best man win.

if anything i'd be trying him more at OT than i would center - what if Cam Erving gets dinged while subbing in for an injured Tyron or Collins ?
then there's only Brandon Knight if Williams is not prepared to take on OT duties. And considering Williams combination of athleticism and past experiences
and accomplishes as a LT in college, i'd be more inclined to utilize him as a emergence swing OT.

- And of course this is just pre-assuming Williams loses the LG role to McGovern who has yet to take an NFL snap and void of NFL game experience.

 

[MarcusRock]

This could have been a mistake on the part of Frederick too. When I saw this play last year I thought maybe Williams was supposed to give a better effort on that chip of the DT. But after watching it a few times it looks like Frederick is late getting over to the DT after Williams let's him go. Its almost as if Frederick forgot he had to get over and block. If Frederick makes that block, Zeke had a huge hole with Williams in front of him. He may have scored, but he surely would have had the 1st down.

Yeah, I can't buy that. How do you forget who you need to block on a running play? You need only look at Frederick's action here. He clearly expects help, and then has to change further direction in desperation to get over to the guy. Based on where the DT is lined up, Frederick is at a clear disadvantage at the snap which is why you'd expect him to jump left immediately if it were his guy solely. It looks like the design was for Williams to stick the DT, have Frederick come over and continue driving him left as Williams releases to head up field and Zeke cuts back behind Frederick where Williams should then be on the LB. You see Zeke run straight for that spot for a cutback and then get bottled up outside. Also, look at Martin jump to the inside of his guy to try to hold the backside of the designed lane for Zeke.

 

[beware_d-ware]

It's a fresh opinion, but at this point, I'd rather keep Williams at LG.

What makes me think that is La'El Collins - everybody "knew" he was miscast at tackle and would be a better guard, until he started coming around in year 4 and reached all his potential in year 5. La'El's development was slowed by injury, but the same deal applies with Williams IMO - let's let him keep developing in one spot and see what he's got. One of Looney or McGovern will hold down the fort for 2020, and McGovern and Biadsz give you two dice rolls to potentially make it long term

 

[bsbellomy]

Cherry picked? Do you know what the actual assignment was?
Maybe Frederick was too late to get there too block, could have been his assignment. Look how the defense was lined up. Williams had to come out and pick up the LB.

Dude that was a flat out whiff. I get that picking one play out a season of plays is not going to tell you anything about a player but don't make excuses for him on that one.

 

[MarcusRock]

Dude that was a flat out whiff. I get that picking one play out a season of plays is not going to tell you anything about a player but don't make excuses for him on that one.

That's why I call him the Teflon Con(nor). Never have I seen a player have more excuses made for him than this guy. I'm not saying he's a bust scrub but Tryston Hill had the bust label on him his rookie season. We have this guy slated to compete for a spot and he was a 2nd Rounder just like Hill. Just not good value at this point. Maybe he'll surprise this year and be good going forward. Hope he's bulked up so we won't have to hear that one again.

 

[cern]

Hopefully the coaches will get it figured out. Best 5 on the field.

 

[jazzcat22]

Dude that was a flat out whiff. I get that picking one play out a season of plays is not going to tell you anything about a player but don't make excuses for him on that one.

WAs not making excuses, was offering a different look.

 

[Creeper]

Yeah, I can't buy that. How do you forget who you need to block on a running play? You need only look at Frederick's action here. He clearly expects help, and then has to change further direction in desperation to get over to the guy. Based on where the DT is lined up, Frederick is at a clear disadvantage at the snap which is why you'd expect him to jump left immediately if it were his guy solely. It looks like the design was for Williams to stick the DT, have Frederick come over and continue driving him left as Williams releases to head up field and Zeke cuts back behind Frederick where Williams should then be on the LB. You see Zeke run straight for that spot for a cutback and then get bottled up outside. Also, look at Martin jump to the inside of his guy to try to hold the backside of the designed lane for Zeke.

I see what you are saying and its what I thought at first, but Frederick takes a step upfield as if he thought Williams had the DT, but that is clearly not the case. If Williams had the tackle, Frederick should have headed upfield to take the LB. Williams is looking at the LB the whole way.

But I also see Zeke heading outside the LG as if that was where he was supposed to run. Its possible Williams had the tackle and Frederick did have the MLB. If this is the case its too bad because the DT cut inside Williams which set him up for Williams to simple push him out of the hole. After that Zeke had the 1st down.

In any case, its one play out of an entire season. At the end of the season Frederick retired saying he didn't think he could play at a high level anymore. That says something.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Yeah, I can't buy that. How do you forget who you need to block on a running play? You need only look at Frederick's action here. He clearly expects help, and then has to change further direction in desperation to get over to the guy. Based on where the DT is lined up, Frederick is at a clear disadvantage at the snap which is why you'd expect him to jump left immediately if it were his guy solely. It looks like the design was for Williams to stick the DT, have Frederick come over and continue driving him left as Williams releases to head up field and Zeke cuts back behind Frederick where Williams should then be on the LB. You see Zeke run straight for that spot for a cutback and then get bottled up outside. Also, look at Martin jump to the inside of his guy to try to hold the backside of the designed lane for Zeke.

The other HUGE PROBLEM this gif exposes is how our Oline does not fire out AT ALL during the run!!!! I've been complaining about this for years. They have changed 3 different Oline coaches over the past 5+ years, yet none of them has addressed or fixed what should be an obvious and easy fix. Bunch of idiots as Oline coaches!

 

[cowboygo]

It'll never happen because our FO has never been able to think much outside the box. We continue to try to put square pegs in to a circle.

This site has proposed FOREVER for Collins to play RT. How long did that take?
We knew we had a better LG with SuaFilo (sp) than Williams but FO refuse to admit.
Pick Taco instead of Watts
Pick Hill instead of the many starting quality S.

Now that we have what the FO believe to be a steal in Biadez there's no way Williams gets a shot a C. Williams will be playing his last season as a Cowboy at LG either as a starter or backup.
Williams maybe our LT for all we know but we will never find out because of the FO.

Just maybe...maybe McCarthy thinks differently now....

or maybe he's just not that good.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I fell like this board is being kinda hard on a kid who is just this year going into his third season and who has been a starter at LG since his rookie year. Most teams would feel pretty good about that. I guess we ain't most teams........

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

False.

that's when witten was retired and dallas had been trying to find his replacement for several drafts....there were rumors of dallas interest in Goedert. he was rated as a first round talent by many draft sites.

 

[Stash]

that's when witten was retired and dallas had been trying to find his replacement for several drafts....there were rumors of dallas interest in Goedert. he was rated as a first round talent by many draft sites.

The "rumors" came from the Eagles and their fans because they wanted to think that they 'got one over' on the Cowboys. The Cowboys were never drafting Goedert anyway.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The "rumors" came from the Eagles and their fans because they wanted to think that they 'got one over' on the Cowboys. The Cowboys were never drafting Goedert anyway.

the rumors were before the draft as well. why else would eagles trade up ahead of dallas to pick him....if Godert was there there was a high chance dallas would take him.....connor Williams was a consolation given they really didn't need an OL man and could have drafted one in subsequent rounds.....

 

[Kaiser]

The "rumors" came from the Eagles and their fans because they wanted to think that they 'got one over' on the Cowboys. The Cowboys were never drafting Goedert anyway.

At the moment the Eagles made the trade Dallas was on the phone with Williams telling him he was going to be the pick at 50.

People can also go back to my posts then and I said long and loud that OG was the only critical position where the team was going to make a need pick in the early rounds. Dallas had a late first round grade on Williams and that is where he was projected to go, the team was ecstatic he dropped to the middle of the second round.

 

[Kaiser]

...connor Williams was a consolation given they really didn't need an OL man and could have drafted one in subsequent rounds.....

OL was the ONLY position they needed to fill in the draft that year. They gambled on Jonathan Cooper the previous year and he got overpaid quite a bit in FA, so they had to have a OG out of that draft. Williams was widely considered a late first round pick but he fell to the middle of the second round.

 

[Beaker42]

Yes, he can. But only if he stops getting hurt.

Wrong, he is not NFL-caliber.

 

[nalam]

I think Connor Williams is a natural fit at Center and am surprised it’s not talked about more.

He’s got two years experience as a starter, scored 34 on his wonderlic so should have a good understanding of the blocking assignments for the o-line and you’d think has the intelligence to pick up the subtleties at Center. I also always thought he looked a bit passive as a guard. He was still massively improved last year, so I can understand some wanting to keep him at guard, but I think his footwork, flexibility, and technique make him a better fit at Center where there are less one one one assignments.

this is year 3 , put up or shut up time .

 

[Beaker42]

This could have been a mistake on the part of Frederick too. When I saw this play last year I thought maybe Williams was supposed to give a better effort on that chip of the DT. But after watching it a few times it looks like Frederick is late getting over to the DT after Williams let's him go. Its almost as if Frederick forgot he had to get over and block. If Frederick makes that block, Zeke had a huge hole with Williams in front of him. He may have scored, but he surely would have had the 1st down.

The only mistake I see is Connor not sticking with his block long enough to let Fredrick get over there.